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	<title>Comments on: Smooth operator, smooth transition</title>
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		<title>By: dinoworx</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/09/11/smooth-operator-smooth-transition/#comment-402404</link>
		<dc:creator>dinoworx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Sep 2007 23:12:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Bundaberg is from my experience alot worse than Rocky.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Being a Bundaberger and having just moved back after a decade further afield... is there something I'm missing about these crazies? Maybe I moved back too soon?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Bundaberg is from my experience alot worse than Rocky.</p></blockquote>
<p>Being a Bundaberger and having just moved back after a decade further afield&#8230; is there something I&#8217;m missing about these crazies? Maybe I moved back too soon?</p>
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		<title>By: wpd</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/09/11/smooth-operator-smooth-transition/#comment-402398</link>
		<dc:creator>wpd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Sep 2007 22:45:35 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/09/11/smooth-operator-smooth-transition/#comment-402398</guid>
		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I’m thinking of raising the school leaving age, the Education 2020 planning process, the emphasis on embedding voc ed with school ed, the creation of state colleges with particular specialties - ie maths/science, creative arts, aviation, etc.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

These ideas had been around the Department of Education for years.  Much of that agenda was developed by Terry Moran who left to head up the Premier's department under Bracks.  

Bligh's strength was that she got the funding to implement those programs.  That's to her credit.

Lucas is considered to be lazy.  Hal9000 is on the money.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I’m thinking of raising the school leaving age, the Education 2020 planning process, the emphasis on embedding voc ed with school ed, the creation of state colleges with particular specialties - ie maths/science, creative arts, aviation, etc.</p></blockquote>
<p>These ideas had been around the Department of Education for years.  Much of that agenda was developed by Terry Moran who left to head up the Premier&#8217;s department under Bracks.  </p>
<p>Bligh&#8217;s strength was that she got the funding to implement those programs.  That&#8217;s to her credit.</p>
<p>Lucas is considered to be lazy.  Hal9000 is on the money.</p>
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		<title>By: Anthony_</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/09/11/smooth-operator-smooth-transition/#comment-402343</link>
		<dc:creator>Anthony_</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Sep 2007 15:44:06 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/09/11/smooth-operator-smooth-transition/#comment-402343</guid>
		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Er, I thought it was Rocky and everything north of it that’s always threatening to cut itself adrift&lt;/blockquote&gt;

North of the Sunshine coast the crazies start...I think the heat and humidity melts their brains..

Bundaberg is from my experience alot worse than Rocky.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Er, I thought it was Rocky and everything north of it that’s always threatening to cut itself adrift</p></blockquote>
<p>North of the Sunshine coast the crazies start&#8230;I think the heat and humidity melts their brains..</p>
<p>Bundaberg is from my experience alot worse than Rocky.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/09/11/smooth-operator-smooth-transition/#comment-402336</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Sep 2007 15:17:51 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/09/11/smooth-operator-smooth-transition/#comment-402336</guid>
		<description>I went to uni with Bob's daughter! I'm sure we shared a XXXX or two at a few Law Society pool parties! 

Bob's a nice guy actually. (If a little mad.)

Just sayin...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I went to uni with Bob&#8217;s daughter! I&#8217;m sure we shared a XXXX or two at a few Law Society pool parties! </p>
<p>Bob&#8217;s a nice guy actually. (If a little mad.)</p>
<p>Just sayin&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Alex on a Bus</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/09/11/smooth-operator-smooth-transition/#comment-402335</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex on a Bus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Sep 2007 15:15:11 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/09/11/smooth-operator-smooth-transition/#comment-402335</guid>
		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;We have are own version of a crazy Quebec as well…its called Bundaberg lol.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Er, I thought it was Rocky and everything north of it that's always threatening to cut itself adrift. That said, would anyone admit from coming from the same state as Bob Katter? :P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>We have are own version of a crazy Quebec as well…its called Bundaberg lol.</p></blockquote>
<p>Er, I thought it was Rocky and everything north of it that&#8217;s always threatening to cut itself adrift. That said, would anyone admit from coming from the same state as Bob Katter? <img src='http://larvatusprodeo.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/09/11/smooth-operator-smooth-transition/#comment-402333</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Sep 2007 15:01:56 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/09/11/smooth-operator-smooth-transition/#comment-402333</guid>
		<description>I've always thought Canada was a great place!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve always thought Canada was a great place!</p>
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		<title>By: Anthony_</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/09/11/smooth-operator-smooth-transition/#comment-402330</link>
		<dc:creator>Anthony_</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Sep 2007 14:54:39 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/09/11/smooth-operator-smooth-transition/#comment-402330</guid>
		<description>&lt;i&gt;And as to that remark, you, sir, and any other Mexicans who share your view, can shove it where the sun doesn’t shine. I mean Melbourne of course&lt;/i&gt;

Always found that term Mexicans stupid...does that make us Queenslanders "north of the border"...try hard &lt;strike&gt;Americans&lt;/strike&gt; Canadians? We have are own version of a crazy Quebec as well...its called Bundaberg lol.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>And as to that remark, you, sir, and any other Mexicans who share your view, can shove it where the sun doesn’t shine. I mean Melbourne of course</i></p>
<p>Always found that term Mexicans stupid&#8230;does that make us Queenslanders &#8220;north of the border&#8221;&#8230;try hard <strike>Americans</strike> Canadians? We have are own version of a crazy Quebec as well&#8230;its called Bundaberg lol.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/09/11/smooth-operator-smooth-transition/#comment-402313</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Sep 2007 13:50:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/09/11/smooth-operator-smooth-transition/#comment-402313</guid>
		<description>Barbargallo was gone by the time I got involved, Hal9000, but his ghost certainly lived on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Barbargallo was gone by the time I got involved, Hal9000, but his ghost certainly lived on.</p>
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		<title>By: Hal9000</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/09/11/smooth-operator-smooth-transition/#comment-402309</link>
		<dc:creator>Hal9000</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Sep 2007 13:37:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fair enough.  My own experiences are more recent and more professionally-oriented than yours which relate to a carefree youth in the Barbagallo-dominated Uni of Qld students union, I believe.  I do know public servants in Transport have fingers crossed he'll move, while those in other agencies are trembling in terror lest he be inflicted on them.  Mr Micro-management, I believe he's known as.  Perceived as being very much in the same mould as the thankfully departed McGrady.   I could say rather more but will refrain, as Lucas and ilk are known for their vindictiveness and I have a mortgage to pay and dependents to support.  But trust me on this Mark, he may be a great mate but as a minister he's a dud.  Perhaps we should leave it at that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fair enough.  My own experiences are more recent and more professionally-oriented than yours which relate to a carefree youth in the Barbagallo-dominated Uni of Qld students union, I believe.  I do know public servants in Transport have fingers crossed he&#8217;ll move, while those in other agencies are trembling in terror lest he be inflicted on them.  Mr Micro-management, I believe he&#8217;s known as.  Perceived as being very much in the same mould as the thankfully departed McGrady.   I could say rather more but will refrain, as Lucas and ilk are known for their vindictiveness and I have a mortgage to pay and dependents to support.  But trust me on this Mark, he may be a great mate but as a minister he&#8217;s a dud.  Perhaps we should leave it at that.</p>
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		<title>By: Danny</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/09/11/smooth-operator-smooth-transition/#comment-402307</link>
		<dc:creator>Danny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Sep 2007 13:30:40 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/09/11/smooth-operator-smooth-transition/#comment-402307</guid>
		<description>It'd have to be a unique situation whereby the PM's and the Premier's jobs are at the dispensation of the one smallish localised group of people, such as the electors of Griffith/South Brisbane, wouldn't it? Half a dozen pages of the refidex would cover the catchment.

Hmmm, we could set up leader-watch pressure group, provide a conduit for delivering the will of the larger electorate, harvested via a blog. If we got say 500 people geographically dispersed throughout the seats so flyers/polls could be quite easily and comprehensively dispersed and collected, and a decisive vote unleashed, we'd have both of their attentions under pain of losing their jobs next time round.

There's gotta be a way of exploiting this extraordinary situation to improve the democratic process. 

All schemes considered, except of course Brisbane Southside Votes For Sale.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;d have to be a unique situation whereby the PM&#8217;s and the Premier&#8217;s jobs are at the dispensation of the one smallish localised group of people, such as the electors of Griffith/South Brisbane, wouldn&#8217;t it? Half a dozen pages of the refidex would cover the catchment.</p>
<p>Hmmm, we could set up leader-watch pressure group, provide a conduit for delivering the will of the larger electorate, harvested via a blog. If we got say 500 people geographically dispersed throughout the seats so flyers/polls could be quite easily and comprehensively dispersed and collected, and a decisive vote unleashed, we&#8217;d have both of their attentions under pain of losing their jobs next time round.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s gotta be a way of exploiting this extraordinary situation to improve the democratic process. </p>
<p>All schemes considered, except of course Brisbane Southside Votes For Sale.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/09/11/smooth-operator-smooth-transition/#comment-402305</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Sep 2007 13:21:43 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/09/11/smooth-operator-smooth-transition/#comment-402305</guid>
		<description>Well, I like him, Hal9000, but I get the sense that you don't. But, to be honest, I haven't followed his portfolio performance so I think anything I would say in his defence would be coloured too much by our personal history.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I like him, Hal9000, but I get the sense that you don&#8217;t. But, to be honest, I haven&#8217;t followed his portfolio performance so I think anything I would say in his defence would be coloured too much by our personal history.</p>
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		<title>By: Hal9000</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/09/11/smooth-operator-smooth-transition/#comment-402304</link>
		<dc:creator>Hal9000</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Sep 2007 13:17:56 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/09/11/smooth-operator-smooth-transition/#comment-402304</guid>
		<description>So do I, Mark, and neither can I.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So do I, Mark, and neither can I.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/09/11/smooth-operator-smooth-transition/#comment-402303</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Sep 2007 13:16:34 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/09/11/smooth-operator-smooth-transition/#comment-402303</guid>
		<description>Well, I disagree with that, but as I said, I know Lucas so can't be objective on it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I disagree with that, but as I said, I know Lucas so can&#8217;t be objective on it.</p>
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		<title>By: Hal9000</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/09/11/smooth-operator-smooth-transition/#comment-402302</link>
		<dc:creator>Hal9000</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Sep 2007 13:14:17 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/09/11/smooth-operator-smooth-transition/#comment-402302</guid>
		<description>I'm also in the Bligh admirer camp, about which enough panegyrics have already been written.  

Lucas, however, is a self-important windbag and a dud.  I can only assume his more talented colleagues - eg Mickel, Welford and Robertson - have been overlooked in order to ensure, Brian Howe-like, that the Deputy slot goes to someone held in such universally low esteem that he can't be a threat.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m also in the Bligh admirer camp, about which enough panegyrics have already been written.  </p>
<p>Lucas, however, is a self-important windbag and a dud.  I can only assume his more talented colleagues - eg Mickel, Welford and Robertson - have been overlooked in order to ensure, Brian Howe-like, that the Deputy slot goes to someone held in such universally low esteem that he can&#8217;t be a threat.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/09/11/smooth-operator-smooth-transition/#comment-402300</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Sep 2007 12:59:08 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/09/11/smooth-operator-smooth-transition/#comment-402300</guid>
		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Also it is dishonesty - no-one ever claimed that Beattie was a great Premier.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Lordy, Harry, do you read or just infer? I don't state in the piece that Beattie was a great Premier. He was a brilliant politician. As a Premier, he wasn't bad, but he wasn't a detail person, and he can be rightly criticised in some areas but also rightly praised in others.

&lt;blockquote&gt;his replacement is a community relations ’social worker’ with smaller teeth than her predecessor&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I don't think you know a thing about Anna Bligh, quite frankly.

&lt;blockquote&gt;Yes, Queenslanders are different.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

As others have noted, it's quite bizarre to be lectured on impartiality by you. Not that Crikey is supposed to be impartial anyway - it's opinion and commentary.

And as to that remark, you, sir, and any other Mexicans who share your view, can shove it where the sun doesn't shine. I mean Melbourne of course.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Also it is dishonesty - no-one ever claimed that Beattie was a great Premier.</p></blockquote>
<p>Lordy, Harry, do you read or just infer? I don&#8217;t state in the piece that Beattie was a great Premier. He was a brilliant politician. As a Premier, he wasn&#8217;t bad, but he wasn&#8217;t a detail person, and he can be rightly criticised in some areas but also rightly praised in others.</p>
<blockquote><p>his replacement is a community relations ’social worker’ with smaller teeth than her predecessor</p></blockquote>
<p>I don&#8217;t think you know a thing about Anna Bligh, quite frankly.</p>
<blockquote><p>Yes, Queenslanders are different.</p></blockquote>
<p>As others have noted, it&#8217;s quite bizarre to be lectured on impartiality by you. Not that Crikey is supposed to be impartial anyway - it&#8217;s opinion and commentary.</p>
<p>And as to that remark, you, sir, and any other Mexicans who share your view, can shove it where the sun doesn&#8217;t shine. I mean Melbourne of course.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/09/11/smooth-operator-smooth-transition/#comment-402298</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Sep 2007 12:54:39 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/09/11/smooth-operator-smooth-transition/#comment-402298</guid>
		<description>Yep, nice spot, that Deli.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yep, nice spot, that Deli.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/09/11/smooth-operator-smooth-transition/#comment-402297</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Sep 2007 12:52:21 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/09/11/smooth-operator-smooth-transition/#comment-402297</guid>
		<description>I like Anna Bligh too. She's very calm and relaxed inside her own skin. One of the bravest things she did was to face the Traveston Dam protestors. They showed a bit of it on TV tonight. She seemed totally unflappable.

Mark, you are right that there was a fair bit going on in education when Bligh was there. On Prep, which I know most about, the policy was a crock, but that is probably not her fault. Primary principals have long wanted to get their hands on Preschool and domesticate it. So did the curriculum development boys and girls at system level.

The implementation was crook too. Top down and wanting to hear good news only. But that style seemed to go right across government. I have no reason to believe, though, that this would change if the other mob got in. When I enquired about the National Party's policy on the public service I was told they didn't have one.

But if we are going to have rampant neoliberalism and managerialism anyway you could do worse than Anna Bligh methinks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like Anna Bligh too. She&#8217;s very calm and relaxed inside her own skin. One of the bravest things she did was to face the Traveston Dam protestors. They showed a bit of it on TV tonight. She seemed totally unflappable.</p>
<p>Mark, you are right that there was a fair bit going on in education when Bligh was there. On Prep, which I know most about, the policy was a crock, but that is probably not her fault. Primary principals have long wanted to get their hands on Preschool and domesticate it. So did the curriculum development boys and girls at system level.</p>
<p>The implementation was crook too. Top down and wanting to hear good news only. But that style seemed to go right across government. I have no reason to believe, though, that this would change if the other mob got in. When I enquired about the National Party&#8217;s policy on the public service I was told they didn&#8217;t have one.</p>
<p>But if we are going to have rampant neoliberalism and managerialism anyway you could do worse than Anna Bligh methinks.</p>
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		<title>By: Danny</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/09/11/smooth-operator-smooth-transition/#comment-402296</link>
		<dc:creator>Danny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Sep 2007 12:51:02 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/09/11/smooth-operator-smooth-transition/#comment-402296</guid>
		<description>Just remembered, last time I saw Kev in West End was at a footpath table at the Swiss Deli with Anna. Should have guessed something was up. 
I'm not sure of LP's product placement policy,  but they do make the most delicious snackerals. Not swiss either, more portuguese. 
And the company you can keep...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just remembered, last time I saw Kev in West End was at a footpath table at the Swiss Deli with Anna. Should have guessed something was up.<br />
I&#8217;m not sure of LP&#8217;s product placement policy,  but they do make the most delicious snackerals. Not swiss either, more portuguese.<br />
And the company you can keep&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Danny</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/09/11/smooth-operator-smooth-transition/#comment-402294</link>
		<dc:creator>Danny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Sep 2007 12:46:21 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/09/11/smooth-operator-smooth-transition/#comment-402294</guid>
		<description>Forget attracting the likes of Boeing, I reckon we'll see a manolo blahnik factory established here pretty soon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Forget attracting the likes of Boeing, I reckon we&#8217;ll see a manolo blahnik factory established here pretty soon.</p>
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		<title>By: hc</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/09/11/smooth-operator-smooth-transition/#comment-402293</link>
		<dc:creator>hc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Sep 2007 12:42:17 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/09/11/smooth-operator-smooth-transition/#comment-402293</guid>
		<description>dd, It certainly isn't critical. Is the word syncophantic? One glowing adjective after another. I guess to Mark it's like asserting the faith but it is very tedious writing that says little more than 'I am a Labor supporter'.  And you are saying that  - echo, echo - on a blog that panders to those with the same beliefs. 

As an occasional reader I was struck by the pointlessness of it.

Also it is dishonesty - no-one ever claimed that Beattie was a great Premier. He just was not a man of intellect or substance. He squandered a decade of possibilities for reconstructing Queensland's infrastructure in one of the fastest growing areas in Australia - energy, ports, transport, water, health all ignored and dumb subsidies retained.

He was a former railway union hack and his replacement is a community relations 'social worker' with smaller teeth than her predecessor and who is probably only slightly more reticent than he is to turn every media occasion into an opportunity to sprout populist cliche.   

Yes, Queenslanders are different.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>dd, It certainly isn&#8217;t critical. Is the word syncophantic? One glowing adjective after another. I guess to Mark it&#8217;s like asserting the faith but it is very tedious writing that says little more than &#8216;I am a Labor supporter&#8217;.  And you are saying that  - echo, echo - on a blog that panders to those with the same beliefs. </p>
<p>As an occasional reader I was struck by the pointlessness of it.</p>
<p>Also it is dishonesty - no-one ever claimed that Beattie was a great Premier. He just was not a man of intellect or substance. He squandered a decade of possibilities for reconstructing Queensland&#8217;s infrastructure in one of the fastest growing areas in Australia - energy, ports, transport, water, health all ignored and dumb subsidies retained.</p>
<p>He was a former railway union hack and his replacement is a community relations &#8217;social worker&#8217; with smaller teeth than her predecessor and who is probably only slightly more reticent than he is to turn every media occasion into an opportunity to sprout populist cliche.   </p>
<p>Yes, Queenslanders are different.</p>
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