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		<title>By: Laura</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/09/23/lazy-sunday-3/#comment-67218</link>
		<dc:creator>Laura</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Sep 2007 02:14:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s not the yuck factor so much as the health risks I&#039;m concerned about (although you might mean those, I guess.)  I&#039;m really out of my depth with anything to do with chemistry so I don&#039;t know how much credence to give the warnings against using untreated grey water on leafy food or on food that&#039;s not cooked before eating.

I&#039;m in Melbourne and not hanging out for the introduction of stage four (although outside watering is not something I do except with reused water).

Your chooks sound better than ours, which are only interested in trying to get into the house.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s not the yuck factor so much as the health risks I&#8217;m concerned about (although you might mean those, I guess.)  I&#8217;m really out of my depth with anything to do with chemistry so I don&#8217;t know how much credence to give the warnings against using untreated grey water on leafy food or on food that&#8217;s not cooked before eating.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m in Melbourne and not hanging out for the introduction of stage four (although outside watering is not something I do except with reused water).</p>
<p>Your chooks sound better than ours, which are only interested in trying to get into the house.</p>
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		<title>By: Kieran Bennett</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kieran Bennett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Sep 2007 02:02:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>re Laura:

We&#039;re in Victoria. Haven&#039;t heard any rumours about banning grey water. We&#039;re on level four, so technically it&#039;s no water outdoors at all.

As for causing more grey water use, I&#039;m certainly thinking about the garden when the washing goes in. When stuff gets done is timed with most efficient use of grey water. I was serious about the bath. I don&#039;t have a system for capturing the shower&#039;s grey water (I rent, so no tapping the pipes), whereas I could bucket the bath.

As for use on food, my garden is completely food. My main concern about grey water is the risk of increasing the salinity of the soil in my garden beds. I try and combat the salinity by maintaining a large amount of mulch to develop a salt repelling microclimate. I heard of the theory from this &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sohI6vnWZmk&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;permaculture vid&lt;/a&gt; on farming along the shores of the dead sea.

As for the yuck factor associated with using grey water on food, I just don&#039;t understand it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>re Laura:</p>
<p>We&#8217;re in Victoria. Haven&#8217;t heard any rumours about banning grey water. We&#8217;re on level four, so technically it&#8217;s no water outdoors at all.</p>
<p>As for causing more grey water use, I&#8217;m certainly thinking about the garden when the washing goes in. When stuff gets done is timed with most efficient use of grey water. I was serious about the bath. I don&#8217;t have a system for capturing the shower&#8217;s grey water (I rent, so no tapping the pipes), whereas I could bucket the bath.</p>
<p>As for use on food, my garden is completely food. My main concern about grey water is the risk of increasing the salinity of the soil in my garden beds. I try and combat the salinity by maintaining a large amount of mulch to develop a salt repelling microclimate. I heard of the theory from this <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sohI6vnWZmk" rel="nofollow">permaculture vid</a> on farming along the shores of the dead sea.</p>
<p>As for the yuck factor associated with using grey water on food, I just don&#8217;t understand it.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/09/23/lazy-sunday-3/#comment-67216</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Sep 2007 14:02:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, leave Christian alone. He has a much better head of hair than me and we&#039;re about the same age. I&#039;m extremely envious of his quiff. And he&#039;s a very nice guy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, leave Christian alone. He has a much better head of hair than me and we&#8217;re about the same age. I&#8217;m extremely envious of his quiff. And he&#8217;s a very nice guy.</p>
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		<title>By: David Rubie</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Rubie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Sep 2007 13:32:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Laura, I haven&#039;t seen Christian Kerr&#039;s head, but I wouldn&#039;t mind it on a platter judging by what he writes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Laura, I haven&#8217;t seen Christian Kerr&#8217;s head, but I wouldn&#8217;t mind it on a platter judging by what he writes.</p>
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		<title>By: Laura</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/09/23/lazy-sunday-3/#comment-67214</link>
		<dc:creator>Laura</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Sep 2007 12:05:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David, you haven&#039;t seen Christian Kerr&#039;s head, have you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David, you haven&#8217;t seen Christian Kerr&#8217;s head, have you.</p>
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		<title>By: David Rubie</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/09/23/lazy-sunday-3/#comment-67213</link>
		<dc:creator>David Rubie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Sep 2007 11:33:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bruno failed his rego check today (sniff).  Needs more money.  Note to young players - do not google image search for &quot;rack bush steering&quot; with children around :-)

Linen suits?  They always sound like a better idea than they look.  Not great if you&#039;ve got kids or like your food with tomato sauce, but I suppose a dashing young single type might j-u-s-t get away with it on a steamy Brisbane afternoon in a suitable beer garden.

I think the Safari Suit is well overdue for a revival, along with the Al Grassby tie collection and that stupendous, greasy quiff that Bob Hawke had in the seventies.  I&#039;m not distinguished enough to carry that one off either, but if my hair holds out until it turns silver like that, I&#039;ll be quiffed and struttin&#039;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bruno failed his rego check today (sniff).  Needs more money.  Note to young players &#8211; do not google image search for &#8220;rack bush steering&#8221; with children around <img src='http://larvatusprodeo.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Linen suits?  They always sound like a better idea than they look.  Not great if you&#8217;ve got kids or like your food with tomato sauce, but I suppose a dashing young single type might j-u-s-t get away with it on a steamy Brisbane afternoon in a suitable beer garden.</p>
<p>I think the Safari Suit is well overdue for a revival, along with the Al Grassby tie collection and that stupendous, greasy quiff that Bob Hawke had in the seventies.  I&#8217;m not distinguished enough to carry that one off either, but if my hair holds out until it turns silver like that, I&#8217;ll be quiffed and struttin&#8217;</p>
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		<title>By: Graham Bell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Graham Bell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Sep 2007 10:12:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mark, CK, j-p-z et al;

Go on.   Go the whole hog.   A linen SAFARI suit .... ideal for all tropical climes, wet or dry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark, CK, j-p-z et al;</p>
<p>Go on.   Go the whole hog.   A linen SAFARI suit &#8230;. ideal for all tropical climes, wet or dry.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/09/23/lazy-sunday-3/#comment-67211</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Sep 2007 04:43:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s happening in a few new developments in Brisbane, Laura.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s happening in a few new developments in Brisbane, Laura.</p>
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		<title>By: Laura</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/09/23/lazy-sunday-3/#comment-67210</link>
		<dc:creator>Laura</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Sep 2007 04:39:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Only at huge and point-defeating expense, jpz, at least in already established areas.  Melbourne sewage is treated and recycled anyway, industrially, hence the famous yellow cauliflowers and cabbages of Altona and Weribbee.  I understand developers are being encouraged to think about putting in &#039;third pipes&#039; on new developments to run some of this treated but not potable water back to households for gardens, toilet flushing etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Only at huge and point-defeating expense, jpz, at least in already established areas.  Melbourne sewage is treated and recycled anyway, industrially, hence the famous yellow cauliflowers and cabbages of Altona and Weribbee.  I understand developers are being encouraged to think about putting in &#8216;third pipes&#8217; on new developments to run some of this treated but not potable water back to households for gardens, toilet flushing etc.</p>
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		<title>By: j_p_z</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/09/23/lazy-sunday-3/#comment-67209</link>
		<dc:creator>j_p_z</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Sep 2007 04:21:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;at least it has no fillers and low sodium / phosphate. Its completely soluble. So far, so good. And on a clay soil phosphates don’t do that much harm anyway - it’s better than no water at all, I guess.&quot;

If y&#039;all are re-using &#039;grey water&#039; that extensively, would it be possible to construct communal cisterns, with a sort of basic inexpensive gravel/charcoal filtration layer, so everyone in a given radius could siphon their grey water into it and then re-use it more efficiently for gardens and so on once it had had a basic run thru the filter and a nice distillation set-down in the cistern?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;at least it has no fillers and low sodium / phosphate. Its completely soluble. So far, so good. And on a clay soil phosphates don’t do that much harm anyway &#8211; it’s better than no water at all, I guess.&#8221;</p>
<p>If y&#8217;all are re-using &#8216;grey water&#8217; that extensively, would it be possible to construct communal cisterns, with a sort of basic inexpensive gravel/charcoal filtration layer, so everyone in a given radius could siphon their grey water into it and then re-use it more efficiently for gardens and so on once it had had a basic run thru the filter and a nice distillation set-down in the cistern?</p>
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