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		<title>By: Ambigulous</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/09/26/projection-part-ii/#comment-67872</link>
		<dc:creator>Ambigulous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Sep 2007 04:37:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Understood, Mark. Sorry.

Grace: I have no idea what you mean, as I neither work for the GG nor admire its endless waffle about the political polls. I think you must be speculating: guesswork is fun, but it&#039;s no substitute for the alternatives! Admired your work on the AEC enrolment matter. The more who vote the better, IMHO.

cheerio</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Understood, Mark. Sorry.</p>
<p>Grace: I have no idea what you mean, as I neither work for the GG nor admire its endless waffle about the political polls. I think you must be speculating: guesswork is fun, but it&#8217;s no substitute for the alternatives! Admired your work on the AEC enrolment matter. The more who vote the better, IMHO.</p>
<p>cheerio</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/09/26/projection-part-ii/#comment-67871</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Sep 2007 03:26:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>grace, I&#039;m tempted to delete all the off topic comments, but I&#039;ll leave them there on the understanding that the commenters in question understand that next time they should take such extraneous matters to the open thread.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>grace, I&#8217;m tempted to delete all the off topic comments, but I&#8217;ll leave them there on the understanding that the commenters in question understand that next time they should take such extraneous matters to the open thread.</p>
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		<title>By: grace pettigrew</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/09/26/projection-part-ii/#comment-67870</link>
		<dc:creator>grace pettigrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Sep 2007 03:24:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Too late, Mark, Ambigulous and MH have successfully derailed this thread. Some of the sharp comments above about the GGs editorial conduct were getting too close to the bone I guess.

Before the derailment, CKs post about the GGs editorial on the west australian polling results was a corker. Sounds to me like a classic case of &quot;misleading and deceptive&quot;. And the suggestion that Howard is winning in WA is now flowing through elsewhere (eg Canberra Times this morning)...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Too late, Mark, Ambigulous and MH have successfully derailed this thread. Some of the sharp comments above about the GGs editorial conduct were getting too close to the bone I guess.</p>
<p>Before the derailment, CKs post about the GGs editorial on the west australian polling results was a corker. Sounds to me like a classic case of &#8220;misleading and deceptive&#8221;. And the suggestion that Howard is winning in WA is now flowing through elsewhere (eg Canberra Times this morning)&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/09/26/projection-part-ii/#comment-67869</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Sep 2007 01:26:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can I just point out that I suggested to Ambigulous that this could be discussed on the open post - Saturday Salon? If you can&#039;t find it on the sidebar, just scroll down the front page. This post doesn&#039;t pertain to Burma (obviously!) and it does become messy if anyone comes in late and wants to talk about its topic. It&#039;s really a matter of courtesy not just to me but to other commenters on this blog.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can I just point out that I suggested to Ambigulous that this could be discussed on the open post &#8211; Saturday Salon? If you can&#8217;t find it on the sidebar, just scroll down the front page. This post doesn&#8217;t pertain to Burma (obviously!) and it does become messy if anyone comes in late and wants to talk about its topic. It&#8217;s really a matter of courtesy not just to me but to other commenters on this blog.</p>
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		<title>By: Juz</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/09/26/projection-part-ii/#comment-67868</link>
		<dc:creator>Juz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Sep 2007 00:59:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fair call on Amnesty (although I&#039;d be surprised if any of their staff vote Liberal).

But since the initial post was about blog sites and the individuals here not doing anything about Burma, my &#039;grassrooots&#039; qualifier was entirely reasonable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fair call on Amnesty (although I&#8217;d be surprised if any of their staff vote Liberal).</p>
<p>But since the initial post was about blog sites and the individuals here not doing anything about Burma, my &#8216;grassrooots&#8217; qualifier was entirely reasonable.</p>
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		<title>By: Ambigulous</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/09/26/projection-part-ii/#comment-67867</link>
		<dc:creator>Ambigulous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Sep 2007 00:54:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Katz @ 9.42pm

Sorry, I deliberately said &quot;can&#039;t write proper&quot; : the private &#039;joke&#039; didn&#039;t transmit as a joke, sorry.

I didn&#039;t mean to type Auusie (Aussie).
Deliberate:
&#039;iggerance&#039; for ignorance ;-)
&quot;can&#039;t write proper&quot;  instead of ... properly :-)
&#039;we did English Spreshun this mornin&#039; in school&quot; ;-)
Yokel humour. I&#039;m from rural Australia. We larf at diff&#039;r&#039;nt stuff as youse city folk, yair.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Katz @ 9.42pm</p>
<p>Sorry, I deliberately said &#8220;can&#8217;t write proper&#8221; : the private &#8216;joke&#8217; didn&#8217;t transmit as a joke, sorry.</p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t mean to type Auusie (Aussie).<br />
Deliberate:<br />
&#8216;iggerance&#8217; for ignorance <img src='http://larvatusprodeo.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
&#8220;can&#8217;t write proper&#8221;  instead of &#8230; properly <img src='http://larvatusprodeo.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
&#8216;we did English Spreshun this mornin&#8217; in school&#8221; <img src='http://larvatusprodeo.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
Yokel humour. I&#8217;m from rural Australia. We larf at diff&#8217;r'nt stuff as youse city folk, yair.</p>
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		<title>By: Ambigulous</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/09/26/projection-part-ii/#comment-67866</link>
		<dc:creator>Ambigulous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Sep 2007 00:48:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not true, juz

Amnesty International and other human rights organisations work on behalf of political prisoners in Burma/Myanmar, and Amnesty is NOT &quot;of the left&quot;. It is scrupulously independent in its statements.

Some Amnesty members may support &#039;left&#039; parties in their own country, e.g. in Australia; but they may also support Collingwood Foootball Club (to their dire shame) and it would be inaccuarate to say &quot;the only grassroots work in Australia for freedom in Burma is done by Collingwood supporters&quot;.

Federal Govt and Federal Opposition have both repeatedly called for political freedoms in Zimbabwe and in Burma/Myanmar. Oh sorry, that doesn&#039;t count. It&#039;s not &#039;grassroots&#039;. Might be effective here &amp; there but it&#039;s not grassroots. Ignore it then. Sorry. Stupid of me: I was trying to focus on actions &amp; words that might assist the poor bastards in Zimbabwe &amp; Burma... FOOL !! IDJUT !!! I should have been focussing on internecine disputation within Australia.

Sorry!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not true, juz</p>
<p>Amnesty International and other human rights organisations work on behalf of political prisoners in Burma/Myanmar, and Amnesty is NOT &#8220;of the left&#8221;. It is scrupulously independent in its statements.</p>
<p>Some Amnesty members may support &#8216;left&#8217; parties in their own country, e.g. in Australia; but they may also support Collingwood Foootball Club (to their dire shame) and it would be inaccuarate to say &#8220;the only grassroots work in Australia for freedom in Burma is done by Collingwood supporters&#8221;.</p>
<p>Federal Govt and Federal Opposition have both repeatedly called for political freedoms in Zimbabwe and in Burma/Myanmar. Oh sorry, that doesn&#8217;t count. It&#8217;s not &#8216;grassroots&#8217;. Might be effective here &amp; there but it&#8217;s not grassroots. Ignore it then. Sorry. Stupid of me: I was trying to focus on actions &amp; words that might assist the poor bastards in Zimbabwe &amp; Burma&#8230; FOOL !! IDJUT !!! I should have been focussing on internecine disputation within Australia.</p>
<p>Sorry!</p>
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		<title>By: Juz</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/09/26/projection-part-ii/#comment-67865</link>
		<dc:creator>Juz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Sep 2007 00:38:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Right on, Paul. It always annoys me when right wingers complain that the left are silent about Burma, Zimbabwe, Iran, etc.

Actually the ONLY grassroots activism around supporting democracy in these 3 countries is on the left.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Right on, Paul. It always annoys me when right wingers complain that the left are silent about Burma, Zimbabwe, Iran, etc.</p>
<p>Actually the ONLY grassroots activism around supporting democracy in these 3 countries is on the left.</p>
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		<title>By: Ambigulous</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/09/26/projection-part-ii/#comment-67864</link>
		<dc:creator>Ambigulous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Sep 2007 00:38:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mark:

oh dear, I used a &quot;moralising tone&quot;? well that puts me in the company of at least 50% of the posters here I reckon!
 I agree everyone has their own priorities, and so they should. I appreciate the efforts you all put into this blog; it&#039;s the only one I visit, because of the very high standard of knowledge, commentary &amp; wit.

I was echoing MH @ 5.42pm who said, inter alia, &quot;it&#039;s all getting pretty insular&quot;.

Today tigtog has posted on Burma/Myanmar, which I welcome.

I reserve the right to criticise &quot;the left&quot;, &quot;the right&quot;, the &quot;uncommitted&quot;, the unclassifiable, and the erudite. Gee, I dunno, seems like some folk &quot;can dish it out but they can&#039;t take it&quot;...

If I transgress your comments policy, please let me know. In the meantime, free speech is my priority and that&#039;s why I detest the Burmese junta and its decades of repression.

Anyone done any election polling in Mandalay recently? ;-)
How are the preference deals working out? :-) Will the all of the hung Senate be meeting in Aung San Suu Kyi&#039;s backyard? Or will they be hung in the avenue near the Shwedagon pagoda?

cheerio</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark:</p>
<p>oh dear, I used a &#8220;moralising tone&#8221;? well that puts me in the company of at least 50% of the posters here I reckon!<br />
 I agree everyone has their own priorities, and so they should. I appreciate the efforts you all put into this blog; it&#8217;s the only one I visit, because of the very high standard of knowledge, commentary &amp; wit.</p>
<p>I was echoing MH @ 5.42pm who said, inter alia, &#8220;it&#8217;s all getting pretty insular&#8221;.</p>
<p>Today tigtog has posted on Burma/Myanmar, which I welcome.</p>
<p>I reserve the right to criticise &#8220;the left&#8221;, &#8220;the right&#8221;, the &#8220;uncommitted&#8221;, the unclassifiable, and the erudite. Gee, I dunno, seems like some folk &#8220;can dish it out but they can&#8217;t take it&#8221;&#8230;</p>
<p>If I transgress your comments policy, please let me know. In the meantime, free speech is my priority and that&#8217;s why I detest the Burmese junta and its decades of repression.</p>
<p>Anyone done any election polling in Mandalay recently? <img src='http://larvatusprodeo.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
How are the preference deals working out? <img src='http://larvatusprodeo.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />  Will the all of the hung Senate be meeting in Aung San Suu Kyi&#8217;s backyard? Or will they be hung in the avenue near the Shwedagon pagoda?</p>
<p>cheerio</p>
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		<title>By: Martin B</title>
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		<dc:creator>Martin B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Sep 2007 23:45:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Another demented low in ‘late Reichstag’ journalism.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

You&#039;re mixing your historical metaphors :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Another demented low in ‘late Reichstag’ journalism.</p></blockquote>
<p>You&#8217;re mixing your historical metaphors <img src='http://larvatusprodeo.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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