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		<title>By: Geoff Robinson</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/09/28/doing-business-online/#comment-68351</link>
		<dc:creator>Geoff Robinson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2007 05:43:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The small business online packages are really clunky and difficult to use, web hosts little help also. My partner has spent much money and received completely inconsistent advice from her ISP on setting up her bookshop site.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The small business online packages are really clunky and difficult to use, web hosts little help also. My partner has spent much money and received completely inconsistent advice from her ISP on setting up her bookshop site.</p>
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		<title>By: suz</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/09/28/doing-business-online/#comment-68350</link>
		<dc:creator>suz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Sep 2007 10:56:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;I’ve recently bought stuff off &lt;/em&gt;

Buying stuff on the Australian Web isn&#039;t a major problem. Buying services/skills online does seem to be a problem. Very few tradespeople or small businesses appear to be using email or websites in a committed way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>I’ve recently bought stuff off </em></p>
<p>Buying stuff on the Australian Web isn&#8217;t a major problem. Buying services/skills online does seem to be a problem. Very few tradespeople or small businesses appear to be using email or websites in a committed way.</p>
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		<title>By: tigtog</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/09/28/doing-business-online/#comment-68349</link>
		<dc:creator>tigtog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Sep 2007 13:00:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Tig tog .. tables are fine for tabular information!&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Yairs, but these nongs hadn&#039;t seemed to realise that you don&#039;t need tables to lay out a sidebar.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Tig tog .. tables are fine for tabular information!</p></blockquote>
<p>Yairs, but these nongs hadn&#8217;t seemed to realise that you don&#8217;t need tables to lay out a sidebar.</p>
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		<title>By: zebbidies spring</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/09/28/doing-business-online/#comment-68348</link>
		<dc:creator>zebbidies spring</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Sep 2007 11:34:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve recently bought stuff off www.oo.com.au (2 groovy little remote control helicopters), qubooks.com.au (textbook) from Toowong and bookware.com.au (N Sydney).  All straightforward processes, goods arrived inside a week.  Umartonline.com.au (Milton and 8 mile plains) is also great for cheap computer gear.

So I suppose it&#039;s the general problem with economic changes.  Some people invest the time and undergo  the unpleasantness of mastering something new.  They get the benefits.  Others try to grab the benefits without changing their mindsets.  They don&#039; t any benefit and then write it all off as hype.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve recently bought stuff off <a href="http://www.oo.com.au" rel="nofollow">http://www.oo.com.au</a> (2 groovy little remote control helicopters), qubooks.com.au (textbook) from Toowong and bookware.com.au (N Sydney).  All straightforward processes, goods arrived inside a week.  Umartonline.com.au (Milton and 8 mile plains) is also great for cheap computer gear.</p>
<p>So I suppose it&#8217;s the general problem with economic changes.  Some people invest the time and undergo  the unpleasantness of mastering something new.  They get the benefits.  Others try to grab the benefits without changing their mindsets.  They don&#8217; t any benefit and then write it all off as hype.</p>
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		<title>By: Tyro Rex</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/09/28/doing-business-online/#comment-68347</link>
		<dc:creator>Tyro Rex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Sep 2007 10:58:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tig tog .. tables are fine for tabular information!

Even major websites are completely retarded for disabled users, I could name a few, or even in terms of page size / loading speed / coherence of design.

I believe the worst things are the ISPs. Frequently they only want to support flat-HTML on their basic plans which is a nightmare to maintain; at best it&#039;s PHP and maybe mysql. If you&#039;re a small business who wants to do something slightly more advanced (and what about backing the database up?!) it&#039;s often hard to get something done at a reasonable price.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tig tog .. tables are fine for tabular information!</p>
<p>Even major websites are completely retarded for disabled users, I could name a few, or even in terms of page size / loading speed / coherence of design.</p>
<p>I believe the worst things are the ISPs. Frequently they only want to support flat-HTML on their basic plans which is a nightmare to maintain; at best it&#8217;s PHP and maybe mysql. If you&#8217;re a small business who wants to do something slightly more advanced (and what about backing the database up?!) it&#8217;s often hard to get something done at a reasonable price.</p>
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		<title>By: Bernice</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/09/28/doing-business-online/#comment-68346</link>
		<dc:creator>Bernice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Sep 2007 23:18:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So many issues, so many issues....

1. Poor integration of virtual marketing forms into business structures.
2. Poor understanding by web designers of ACTUAL customer service practice
3. Poor understanding by small businesses as to what a web site does &amp; what it can potentially do
4. Ridiculously primitive integration of ISP, host roles, design templates &amp; customer  functionality
5. Particularly for service providers, open source web programmes which do not require hosting, can be up &amp; running in about an hour. Easy to edit, &amp; their very basic nature prevents the page from being horribly visually cluttered as so many web pages are.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So many issues, so many issues&#8230;.</p>
<p>1. Poor integration of virtual marketing forms into business structures.<br />
2. Poor understanding by web designers of ACTUAL customer service practice<br />
3. Poor understanding by small businesses as to what a web site does &amp; what it can potentially do<br />
4. Ridiculously primitive integration of ISP, host roles, design templates &amp; customer  functionality<br />
5. Particularly for service providers, open source web programmes which do not require hosting, can be up &amp; running in about an hour. Easy to edit, &amp; their very basic nature prevents the page from being horribly visually cluttered as so many web pages are.</p>
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		<title>By: Caroline</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/09/28/doing-business-online/#comment-68345</link>
		<dc:creator>Caroline</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Sep 2007 11:51:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I too have come to realise that small businesses with websites won&#039;t necessarily be all that responsive to &#039;contact&#039; enquiries, so I always look for a phone number, which is often frustratingly difficult to find, (especially with government departments).   Next to google, for finding the business, the online white/yellow pages for finding their phone numbers is still my best resource.  Its cumbersome, but speaking to someone still seems to be the most direct route to getting a price, having an enqiury answered, or placing an order.

I think FDB has hit the nail on the head.  People have websites and then after the initial flush, forget about them.  Possibly such businesses have had so few enquiries via their websites in the initial stages, they&#039;ve all but given up on them.  In which case they ought to display their phone numbers much more prominently with a RING US message.  They&#039;re probably too understaffed and overwhelmed with day to day business operations to find it worthwhile spending much time online.

Just like that other half of the population who cannot for the life of them understand why anyone would read blogs, let alone write blog posts, there will always be people (or for our lifetimes anyway) who simply hate using computers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I too have come to realise that small businesses with websites won&#8217;t necessarily be all that responsive to &#8216;contact&#8217; enquiries, so I always look for a phone number, which is often frustratingly difficult to find, (especially with government departments).   Next to google, for finding the business, the online white/yellow pages for finding their phone numbers is still my best resource.  Its cumbersome, but speaking to someone still seems to be the most direct route to getting a price, having an enqiury answered, or placing an order.</p>
<p>I think FDB has hit the nail on the head.  People have websites and then after the initial flush, forget about them.  Possibly such businesses have had so few enquiries via their websites in the initial stages, they&#8217;ve all but given up on them.  In which case they ought to display their phone numbers much more prominently with a RING US message.  They&#8217;re probably too understaffed and overwhelmed with day to day business operations to find it worthwhile spending much time online.</p>
<p>Just like that other half of the population who cannot for the life of them understand why anyone would read blogs, let alone write blog posts, there will always be people (or for our lifetimes anyway) who simply hate using computers.</p>
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		<title>By: tigtog</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/09/28/doing-business-online/#comment-68344</link>
		<dc:creator>tigtog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Sep 2007 09:22:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nick, I know exactly what you mean.  I actually had to point this out to a client the other day whose current website has been built by some nong using CSS but then still choosing to lay out the info using tables. Great.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nick, I know exactly what you mean.  I actually had to point this out to a client the other day whose current website has been built by some nong using CSS but then still choosing to lay out the info using tables. Great.</p>
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		<title>By: Nick Caldwell</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/09/28/doing-business-online/#comment-68343</link>
		<dc:creator>Nick Caldwell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Sep 2007 08:19:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can I just spit in the general direction of the endless masses of small business websites that pay no attention to the needs of disabled users (in gross violation of the 1992 Disability Discrimination Act), often unleashed on the public pretty recently but built using practices that were considered to be beyond the pale at least 6 years ago, and usually proudly proclaim their support for IE 4?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can I just spit in the general direction of the endless masses of small business websites that pay no attention to the needs of disabled users (in gross violation of the 1992 Disability Discrimination Act), often unleashed on the public pretty recently but built using practices that were considered to be beyond the pale at least 6 years ago, and usually proudly proclaim their support for IE 4?</p>
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		<title>By: FDB</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/09/28/doing-business-online/#comment-68342</link>
		<dc:creator>FDB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Sep 2007 07:58:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;NOT checked for rudimentry errors by the business itself.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I have received a call every week or so for the last 6 FUCKING YEARS for this guy Mark who works as a building and infrastructure consultant. I&#039;ve given up emailing them about it, and their website still has the wrong number on the contacts page.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>NOT checked for rudimentry errors by the business itself.</p></blockquote>
<p>I have received a call every week or so for the last 6 FUCKING YEARS for this guy Mark who works as a building and infrastructure consultant. I&#8217;ve given up emailing them about it, and their website still has the wrong number on the contacts page.</p>
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