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	<title>Comments on: Hockey&#039;s union hysteria misses the hip pocket</title>
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		<title>By: steve</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/10/02/hockeys-union-hysteria-misses-the-hip-pocket/#comment-68913</link>
		<dc:creator>steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Oct 2007 18:56:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Today&#039;s &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,22539477-601,00.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Government Gazette &lt;/a&gt;carries on the &lt;a href=&quot;http://blogs.theaustralian.news.com.au/janetalbrechtsen/index.php/theaustralian/comments/biased_dont_take_our_word_for_it/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;private attack &lt;/a&gt;on public work by academics.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Today&#8217;s <a href="http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,22539477-601,00.html" rel="nofollow">Government Gazette </a>carries on the <a href="http://blogs.theaustralian.news.com.au/janetalbrechtsen/index.php/theaustralian/comments/biased_dont_take_our_word_for_it/" rel="nofollow">private attack </a>on public work by academics.</p>
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		<title>By: The Worst of Perth</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/10/02/hockeys-union-hysteria-misses-the-hip-pocket/#comment-68912</link>
		<dc:creator>The Worst of Perth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Oct 2007 20:47:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;one could compare the subsequent career directions of Rudd and Hockey with the â??post-ESPECIALLY FOR YOUâ?? careers of Kylie Minogue &amp; Jason Donovan :)&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Bear Cave, I&#039;m seeing it more as Kylie and Danii Minogue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>one could compare the subsequent career directions of Rudd and Hockey with the â??post-ESPECIALLY FOR YOUâ?? careers of Kylie Minogue &amp; Jason Donovan <img src='http://larvatusprodeo.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p></blockquote>
<p>Bear Cave, I&#8217;m seeing it more as Kylie and Danii Minogue.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Kemp</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter Kemp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Oct 2007 20:45:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr Hockey may yet learn that while it&#039;s standard fare for a politician to impugn another politician&#039;s reputation, impugning a professional--in this case academic--reputation may well have serious legal consequences.

The unbridled lust for power knows no sense of propriety, decency nor morality.

The end always justifies the means in the world of Howardista machinations.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr Hockey may yet learn that while it&#8217;s standard fare for a politician to impugn another politician&#8217;s reputation, impugning a professional&#8211;in this case academic&#8211;reputation may well have serious legal consequences.</p>
<p>The unbridled lust for power knows no sense of propriety, decency nor morality.</p>
<p>The end always justifies the means in the world of Howardista machinations.</p>
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		<title>By: steve</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/10/02/hockeys-union-hysteria-misses-the-hip-pocket/#comment-68910</link>
		<dc:creator>steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Oct 2007 19:47:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hockey seems determined that the academics will win an olympic sized swimming pool rather than a wading pool with &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/news/national/hockey-has-no-regrets-over-attack-on-academics/2007/10/04/1191091268990.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this blatant display of arrogance.&lt;/a&gt;

Courts love displays of remorse, Liberals love displays of madness.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hockey seems determined that the academics will win an olympic sized swimming pool rather than a wading pool with <a href="http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/news/national/hockey-has-no-regrets-over-attack-on-academics/2007/10/04/1191091268990.html" rel="nofollow">this blatant display of arrogance.</a></p>
<p>Courts love displays of remorse, Liberals love displays of madness.</p>
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		<title>By: BearCave</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/10/02/hockeys-union-hysteria-misses-the-hip-pocket/#comment-68909</link>
		<dc:creator>BearCave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Oct 2007 05:14:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Liberals and Nationals really have only themselves to blame for Joe Hockey&#039;s struggle to hold his own seat.  Let&#039;s briefly revisit their &quot;dumb decision&quot; to pressure both Kevin Rudd and Joe Hockey to end their weekly guest apperances on the Sunrise program:

I wrote here on the 16th of April:

&quot;Glenn Milne reveals that Joe Hockeyâ??s role on the Sunrise program is being challenged by his own party:  Wrote Milne:

â??The internal bitterness over Hockeyâ??s Sunrise performance emphasises other colleaguesâ?? doubts about him: whether he has what it takes to convince the electorate at the end of this yearâ??.

Did these other colleagues even stop to consider that for most of Hockey&#039;s tenure on the program, his primary objective wasn&#039;t to sell what is described in The Age today as the Howard Government&#039;s &quot;most unpopular policy&quot;?

I argued here in April that the segment also presented Hockey with an opportunity to act as a less regimented member of the Conservative federation - enjoying the benefits of what I branded â??The Arnold Schwarzenegger Factorâ??.

In support of my argument, I quoted Ed from The Australian as he wrote on 14 November 2006:

â??As the US election result shows, the race is on for the centre. Californiaâ??s republican governor, Arnold Schwarzenegger, provides the stand-out example of political survival through reinvention. He ditched unpopular policies and captured the centre, and with it almost 80 per cent of the vote.â??

A voter&#039;s decision-making can be as emotional, if not more emotional than it can be rational.  My first reaction to the opponents of that Sunrise segment - both in the elite end of the Mainstream Media and the internal dividers within the Coalition - was that they were actually going to regiment Hockey rather than allow him to be himself.

To quote one dumb decision maker within the Coalition:

â??Every Friday itâ??s just a free kick for Rudd. Joeâ??s always wanted to be Big Happy Joe. Well, thatâ??s not enough.â??

So, in other words, any objectives Hockey might have had for the segment outside the immediate &quot;percieved&quot; needs of the Party were suddenly regarded as irrelevant.

Months later, journalist Mike Stekettee admits on behalf of The Australian newspaper today that an ironic challenge for the Liberals if they lose the next election is that they&#039;ll need to become &quot;less conservative and more pragmatic&quot;.

Oh really?  How do you propose that will happen?

Specifically, would you restore that Sunrise segment after the next election with Alex Hawke as the Coalition representative in the event Joe Hockey is no longer available in parliament?

Since the end of that Sunrise segment, one that was so popular because it engaged the &quot;very general public&quot; in matters political, one could compare the subsequent career directions of Rudd and Hockey with the &quot;post-ESPECIALLY FOR YOU&quot; careers of Kylie Minogue &amp; Jason Donovan  :)

For the benefit of &quot;democracy in general&quot;, I hope it is not too late for the next-term configuration of the Liberal Party&#039;s &quot;broad church&quot; to contain its needed share of moderates as the proof is already evident in the recent NSW State Election that a &quot;pure conservative&quot; party only does appeal to a minority.

One thing is for sure:  If Howard loses, expect much parallel analysis between what&#039;s happening to Conservative politics here and in the United Kingdom.

...From Justin</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Liberals and Nationals really have only themselves to blame for Joe Hockey&#8217;s struggle to hold his own seat.  Let&#8217;s briefly revisit their &#8220;dumb decision&#8221; to pressure both Kevin Rudd and Joe Hockey to end their weekly guest apperances on the Sunrise program:</p>
<p>I wrote here on the 16th of April:</p>
<p>&#8220;Glenn Milne reveals that Joe Hockeyâ??s role on the Sunrise program is being challenged by his own party:  Wrote Milne:</p>
<p>â??The internal bitterness over Hockeyâ??s Sunrise performance emphasises other colleaguesâ?? doubts about him: whether he has what it takes to convince the electorate at the end of this yearâ??.</p>
<p>Did these other colleagues even stop to consider that for most of Hockey&#8217;s tenure on the program, his primary objective wasn&#8217;t to sell what is described in The Age today as the Howard Government&#8217;s &#8220;most unpopular policy&#8221;?</p>
<p>I argued here in April that the segment also presented Hockey with an opportunity to act as a less regimented member of the Conservative federation &#8211; enjoying the benefits of what I branded â??The Arnold Schwarzenegger Factorâ??.</p>
<p>In support of my argument, I quoted Ed from The Australian as he wrote on 14 November 2006:</p>
<p>â??As the US election result shows, the race is on for the centre. Californiaâ??s republican governor, Arnold Schwarzenegger, provides the stand-out example of political survival through reinvention. He ditched unpopular policies and captured the centre, and with it almost 80 per cent of the vote.â??</p>
<p>A voter&#8217;s decision-making can be as emotional, if not more emotional than it can be rational.  My first reaction to the opponents of that Sunrise segment &#8211; both in the elite end of the Mainstream Media and the internal dividers within the Coalition &#8211; was that they were actually going to regiment Hockey rather than allow him to be himself.</p>
<p>To quote one dumb decision maker within the Coalition:</p>
<p>â??Every Friday itâ??s just a free kick for Rudd. Joeâ??s always wanted to be Big Happy Joe. Well, thatâ??s not enough.â??</p>
<p>So, in other words, any objectives Hockey might have had for the segment outside the immediate &#8220;percieved&#8221; needs of the Party were suddenly regarded as irrelevant.</p>
<p>Months later, journalist Mike Stekettee admits on behalf of The Australian newspaper today that an ironic challenge for the Liberals if they lose the next election is that they&#8217;ll need to become &#8220;less conservative and more pragmatic&#8221;.</p>
<p>Oh really?  How do you propose that will happen?</p>
<p>Specifically, would you restore that Sunrise segment after the next election with Alex Hawke as the Coalition representative in the event Joe Hockey is no longer available in parliament?</p>
<p>Since the end of that Sunrise segment, one that was so popular because it engaged the &#8220;very general public&#8221; in matters political, one could compare the subsequent career directions of Rudd and Hockey with the &#8220;post-ESPECIALLY FOR YOU&#8221; careers of Kylie Minogue &amp; Jason Donovan  <img src='http://larvatusprodeo.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>For the benefit of &#8220;democracy in general&#8221;, I hope it is not too late for the next-term configuration of the Liberal Party&#8217;s &#8220;broad church&#8221; to contain its needed share of moderates as the proof is already evident in the recent NSW State Election that a &#8220;pure conservative&#8221; party only does appeal to a minority.</p>
<p>One thing is for sure:  If Howard loses, expect much parallel analysis between what&#8217;s happening to Conservative politics here and in the United Kingdom.</p>
<p>&#8230;From Justin</p>
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		<title>By: BearCave</title>
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		<dc:creator>BearCave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2007 23:01:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>HC wrote:

&quot;Allow markets to determine wages - dump all the union bullies - and use government to engineer a socially acceptible minimum wage.&quot;

Oh, I see!

So in order for a majority to enjoy the benefit of small government, you impose &quot;Bigger Government determination&quot; on a minority of people.

You define it &quot;a socially acceptible minimum wage&quot;  ?

Socially acceptable with who exactly?

The actual people affected by it or those that most benefit from a deregulated labor supply?

...From Justin</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HC wrote:</p>
<p>&#8220;Allow markets to determine wages &#8211; dump all the union bullies &#8211; and use government to engineer a socially acceptible minimum wage.&#8221;</p>
<p>Oh, I see!</p>
<p>So in order for a majority to enjoy the benefit of small government, you impose &#8220;Bigger Government determination&#8221; on a minority of people.</p>
<p>You define it &#8220;a socially acceptible minimum wage&#8221;  ?</p>
<p>Socially acceptable with who exactly?</p>
<p>The actual people affected by it or those that most benefit from a deregulated labor supply?</p>
<p>&#8230;From Justin</p>
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		<title>By: steve</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/10/02/hockeys-union-hysteria-misses-the-hip-pocket/#comment-68907</link>
		<dc:creator>steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2007 22:35:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.voxeu.org/index.php?q=node/595&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Richard B Freeman&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.voxeu.org/index.php?q=node/595" rel="nofollow">Richard B Freeman</a></p>
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		<title>By: steve</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/10/02/hockeys-union-hysteria-misses-the-hip-pocket/#comment-68906</link>
		<dc:creator>steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2007 21:44:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It seems to be doing Hockey a lot of good  too. There has been a &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/news/national/voters-take-stick-to-hockey/2007/10/03/1191091220486.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;huge swing against him in latest polling&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems to be doing Hockey a lot of good  too. There has been a <a href="http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/news/national/voters-take-stick-to-hockey/2007/10/03/1191091220486.html" rel="nofollow">huge swing against him in latest polling</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Mug Punter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mug Punter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2007 21:01:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Workchoices [Joy through Work] Amendment Act 2008.</description>
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		<title>By: judith m melville</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/10/02/hockeys-union-hysteria-misses-the-hip-pocket/#comment-68904</link>
		<dc:creator>judith m melville</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2007 08:33:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Choked with laughter and spilled my coffee when I heard Joe Hockey&#039;s rant.
Went paralytic with mirth when I saw that he might find himself defending a defamation action.
Couldn&#039;t happen to a nicer bloke!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Choked with laughter and spilled my coffee when I heard Joe Hockey&#8217;s rant.<br />
Went paralytic with mirth when I saw that he might find himself defending a defamation action.<br />
Couldn&#8217;t happen to a nicer bloke!</p>
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