Comments on: Raise the Bar http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/10/03/raise-the-bar/ Blogging politics, culture, sociology and life from Brisvegas Mon, 22 Mar 2010 11:14:33 +0000 hourly 1 By: steve at the pub http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/10/03/raise-the-bar/comment-page-1/#comment-410050 steve at the pub Tue, 09 Oct 2007 12:54:28 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/10/03/raise-the-bar/#comment-410050 In the interests of identifying waterholes with the most convivial possible atmosphere an exhaustive exploration of the newly smoke-free pubs of the west of ireland is also called for! In the interests of identifying waterholes with the most convivial possible atmosphere an exhaustive exploration of the newly smoke-free pubs of the west of ireland is also called for!

]]> By: Shaun http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/10/03/raise-the-bar/comment-page-1/#comment-410045 Shaun Tue, 09 Oct 2007 12:41:47 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/10/03/raise-the-bar/#comment-410045 <blockquote>An interstate fact finding mission is called for!</blockquote> I second SATP's idea. Finally an issue that is sure to receive bipartisan support from the varied LP denizens.

An interstate fact finding mission is called for!

I second SATP’s idea. Finally an issue that is sure to receive bipartisan support from the varied LP denizens.

]]> By: steve at the pub http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/10/03/raise-the-bar/comment-page-1/#comment-410037 steve at the pub Tue, 09 Oct 2007 12:18:16 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/10/03/raise-the-bar/#comment-410037 Am I allowed to confess that as a regular patron of drinking establishments in Brisbane, Sydney, Darwin, and Melbourne, that I have not noticed any significant difference in drinking experience. Until all these posts on this site that is, which lament the "backwardness" of Sydney. However, I must say, that the only place I notice any difference IS on this site. An interstate <strike>pub crawl</strike> fact finding mission is called for! Am I allowed to confess that as a regular patron of drinking establishments in Brisbane, Sydney, Darwin, and Melbourne, that I have not noticed any significant difference in drinking experience.

Until all these posts on this site that is, which lament the “backwardness” of Sydney.

However, I must say, that the only place I notice any difference IS on this site.

An interstate pub crawl fact finding mission is called for!

]]> By: su http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/10/03/raise-the-bar/comment-page-1/#comment-410036 su Tue, 09 Oct 2007 12:15:50 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/10/03/raise-the-bar/#comment-410036 <blockquote>Townsville, where I was first posted as a callow subby, will always be a lazy exotic Pacific Islander with a splash of orchid against jet black coils. Could be a purely personal angle that, but.</blockquote> Yep I'd say so. When I was growing up it was the crew cut army jerk brawling outside of 'stilletos'.

Townsville, where I was first posted as a callow subby, will always be a lazy exotic Pacific Islander with a splash of orchid against jet black coils. Could be a purely personal angle that, but.

Yep I’d say so. When I was growing up it was the crew cut army jerk brawling outside of ’stilletos’.

]]> By: Shaun http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/10/03/raise-the-bar/comment-page-1/#comment-410032 Shaun Tue, 09 Oct 2007 11:57:59 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/10/03/raise-the-bar/#comment-410032 err James, if you take care to read the arguments, we are bashing Sydney for its lack of Melbournian style establishments. err James, if you take care to read the arguments, we are bashing Sydney for its lack of Melbournian style establishments.

]]> By: James http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/10/03/raise-the-bar/comment-page-1/#comment-410010 James Tue, 09 Oct 2007 10:28:20 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/10/03/raise-the-bar/#comment-410010 Here we go Sydney bashing Melbourne again...yawwwwn. Face it Sydney is the dullest place in the world in terms of cities to socialise in, crude, unsophoisticated and unfashionable with a horribly cheap facade. Here we go Sydney bashing Melbourne again…yawwwwn. Face it Sydney is the dullest place in the world in terms of cities to socialise in, crude, unsophoisticated and unfashionable with a horribly cheap facade.

]]> By: Andrew http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/10/03/raise-the-bar/comment-page-1/#comment-408882 Andrew Thu, 04 Oct 2007 09:14:59 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/10/03/raise-the-bar/#comment-408882 For a long time now sydney has been lagging behind in the bar scene. It's been bombarded by Millionaires with no taste hiring the same interior designers doing the same thing. (The Establishment, the Eastern, The Bourbon have all been designed by SJB.) They're all really boring in their design. Everyone's trying to Out Chandelier the next person, Out wallpaper the next person. It's all aesthetic wank. Melbourne is a shining example of people creating spaces with their own hands, no budgets and a wealth of ideas. This town of ours Sydney is one hell of a creative hotbed at the moment. Full of mega talented young interesting people. I'd much rather be drinking in a place where the owner is my age and has something to say. Not going to the same old places fo the 50 year old Pub veterans that have this liscence to print money. Go to New York. Go to London, Go to Tokyo. Go to Melbourne. Everywhere you'll notice the same thing. 30 is the new 20. 40 is the new 30. These people are single and they're out all the time. Socializing wanting to have fun (Remember fun) after a hard day at the office. There's more than enough to go around. If Melbourne's landscape can fascilitate it ours can. As for Restaurants... You've got no idea what you're talking about. I don't want to go to a restaurant to drink all night. Take me somewhere that's fun! For too long, we as the punters have had to have the same venues forced down our throat. Every pub's been renovated to resemble a bar but it's still a pub. We're dying of boredom here. Go Clover, finally someone that gets it. Long live culture! For a long time now sydney has been lagging behind in the bar scene. It’s been bombarded by Millionaires with no taste hiring the same interior designers doing the same thing. (The Establishment, the Eastern, The Bourbon have all been designed by SJB.) They’re all really boring in their design. Everyone’s trying to Out Chandelier the next person, Out wallpaper the next person. It’s all aesthetic wank.
Melbourne is a shining example of people creating spaces with their own hands, no budgets and a wealth of ideas. This town of ours Sydney is one hell of a creative hotbed at the moment. Full of mega talented young interesting people. I’d much rather be drinking in a place where the owner is my age and has something to say. Not going to the same old places fo the 50 year old Pub veterans that have this liscence to print money.
Go to New York. Go to London, Go to Tokyo. Go to Melbourne. Everywhere you’ll notice the same thing. 30 is the new 20. 40 is the new 30. These people are single and they’re out all the time. Socializing wanting to have fun (Remember fun) after a hard day at the office. There’s more than enough to go around. If Melbourne’s landscape can fascilitate it ours can.
As for Restaurants… You’ve got no idea what you’re talking about. I don’t want to go to a restaurant to drink all night. Take me somewhere that’s fun! For too long, we as the punters have had to have the same venues forced down our throat. Every pub’s been renovated to resemble a bar but it’s still a pub. We’re dying of boredom here.
Go Clover, finally someone that gets it. Long live culture!

]]> By: FDB http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/10/03/raise-the-bar/comment-page-1/#comment-408744 FDB Thu, 04 Oct 2007 02:20:19 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/10/03/raise-the-bar/#comment-408744 <blockquote>Coober Pedy keeps hers short, brown, functional, tiniest of nods to vanity</blockquote> Up top mayhap, but the minge is a wild thatch of garish red.

Coober Pedy keeps hers short, brown, functional, tiniest of nods to vanity

Up top mayhap, but the minge is a wild thatch of garish red.

]]> By: Damien Eldridge http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/10/03/raise-the-bar/comment-page-1/#comment-408734 Damien Eldridge Thu, 04 Oct 2007 01:50:04 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/10/03/raise-the-bar/#comment-408734 Phil gets it exactly right when he says "Sorry Mr Doyle, what you’re suggesting is a seriously bad deal for consumers.". The same criticism applies to trade protection, which should be just as loudly condemned by all consumers regardless of their political views. Phil gets it exactly right when he says “Sorry Mr Doyle, what you’re suggesting is a seriously bad deal for consumers.”. The same criticism applies to trade protection, which should be just as loudly condemned by all consumers regardless of their political views.

]]> By: Jack Robertson http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/10/03/raise-the-bar/comment-page-1/#comment-408685 Jack Robertson Wed, 03 Oct 2007 18:06:36 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/10/03/raise-the-bar/#comment-408685 Townsville, where I was first posted as a callow subby, will always be a lazy exotic Pacific Islander with a splash of orchid against jet black coils. Could be a purely personal angle that, but. Coober Pedy keeps hers short, brown, functional, tiniest of nods to vanity...a kind of Soviet-occupied folk-ethnic look, with the Party-utilitarian severity softened by a coat of opal dust and perpetual future-dreaming... Is it dawn yet? Townsville, where I was first posted as a callow subby, will always be a lazy exotic Pacific Islander with a splash of orchid against jet black coils. Could be a purely personal angle that, but.

Coober Pedy keeps hers short, brown, functional, tiniest of nods to vanity…a kind of Soviet-occupied folk-ethnic look, with the Party-utilitarian severity softened by a coat of opal dust and perpetual future-dreaming…

Is it dawn yet?

]]> By: Nabakov http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/10/03/raise-the-bar/comment-page-1/#comment-408682 Nabakov Wed, 03 Oct 2007 17:44:09 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/10/03/raise-the-bar/#comment-408682 And Geelong! Currently sporting some silvery cup arrangement on her head. And Geelong! Currently sporting some silvery cup arrangement on her head.

]]> By: Jack Robertson http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/10/03/raise-the-bar/comment-page-1/#comment-408680 Jack Robertson Wed, 03 Oct 2007 17:28:24 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/10/03/raise-the-bar/#comment-408680 "Whereas Melbourne’s been the citizens’ concubine." <em>*emits consoling insomniatic sigh at Universe's occasional revealed symmetries*</em> Will despatch metaphoricke a.m. crate of Glen for like aptness re: Surfers, Broome, Bendigo and Alice. “Whereas Melbourne’s been the citizens’ concubine.”

*emits consoling insomniatic sigh at Universe’s occasional revealed symmetries*

Will despatch metaphoricke a.m. crate of Glen for like aptness re: Surfers, Broome, Bendigo and Alice.

]]> By: Nabakov http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/10/03/raise-the-bar/comment-page-1/#comment-408676 Nabakov Wed, 03 Oct 2007 16:35:19 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/10/03/raise-the-bar/#comment-408676 <blockquote>Sydney’s been a millionaire’s tart since at least the Rum Rebellion.</blockquote> Zwang! Good one, Jack. Whereas Melbourne's been the citizens' concubine. Not hard to guess which city's a natural silky blonde and which has a riverine head of raven hair. And oh yes, for our host and others, Brisbane's a big wavy redhead - with freckles. Perth is a bottle blonde, Adelaide a fussy brunette and Hobart's got an archiac perm with dashing green streaks. And Darwin wears a hat and Canberra a wig.

Sydney’s been a millionaire’s tart since at least the Rum Rebellion.

Zwang! Good one, Jack.

Whereas Melbourne’s been the citizens’ concubine.

Not hard to guess which city’s a natural silky blonde and which has a riverine head of raven hair.

And oh yes, for our host and others, Brisbane’s a big wavy redhead – with freckles.

Perth is a bottle blonde, Adelaide a fussy brunette and Hobart’s got an archiac perm with dashing green streaks.

And Darwin wears a hat and Canberra a wig.

]]> By: amortiser http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/10/03/raise-the-bar/comment-page-1/#comment-408630 amortiser Wed, 03 Oct 2007 11:03:25 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/10/03/raise-the-bar/#comment-408630 Have a look at every licensing system and its based on the same thing - benefit the existing players and make it difficult for new entrants all disguised as protecting consumers. Have a look at every licensing system and its based on the same thing – benefit the existing players and make it difficult for new entrants all disguised as protecting consumers.

]]> By: Jack Robertson http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/10/03/raise-the-bar/comment-page-1/#comment-408487 Jack Robertson Wed, 03 Oct 2007 02:50:12 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/10/03/raise-the-bar/#comment-408487 "Victoria is watching this with jaws agape." All the better for <a href="http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,22516409-2702,00.html" rel="nofollow">Sydney's favorite croupier & hotelier </a>to stick it in, one presumes? You let Vic worry about her own virtue, James. Sydney's been a millionaire's tart since at least the Rum Rebellion. “Victoria is watching this with jaws agape.”

All the better for Sydney’s favorite croupier & hotelier to stick it in, one presumes?

You let Vic worry about her own virtue, James. Sydney’s been a millionaire’s tart since at least the Rum Rebellion.

]]> By: James Campbell http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/10/03/raise-the-bar/comment-page-1/#comment-408439 James Campbell Wed, 03 Oct 2007 00:54:43 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/10/03/raise-the-bar/#comment-408439 Victoria is watching this with jaws agape. It's madness. What sort of government have you got up there? It's totally, utterly gutless. John Cain bit-the-bullet on this <strong>20 years ago! </strong>What are these people going to be like if they are ever confronted with a real problem if they run screaming from a bunch of publicans? Victoria is watching this with jaws agape. It’s madness. What sort of government have you got up there? It’s totally, utterly gutless. John Cain bit-the-bullet on this 20 years ago! What are these people going to be like if they are ever confronted with a real problem if they run screaming from a bunch of publicans?

]]> By: Spiros http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/10/03/raise-the-bar/comment-page-1/#comment-408426 Spiros Wed, 03 Oct 2007 00:24:00 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/10/03/raise-the-bar/#comment-408426 For sheer chutzpah, Doyle's suggestion is hard to beat. This is one of the very few issues of government policy where the matter is simple, black or white, right or wrong. For sheer chutzpah, Doyle’s suggestion is hard to beat.

This is one of the very few issues of government policy where the matter is simple, black or white, right or wrong.

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