Sophie says: “If you are going to take your clothes off for something, it better be a good cause”.
I think most blokes will think Sophie getting naked is enough of a good cause in itself.
The above quote comes from The Sun’s, err, thoughtful article about Sophie Monk’s decision to get her kit off in the interests of promoting animal rights. Being naked and promoting a political cause makes so much sense, doesn’t it? It’d be interesting to see The Sun’s reaction if Ms Monk’s non-meat eating boyfriend dropped his duds (after all he’s a rock star or something) for the same cause. It’d probably go something like this:
I think most blokes will think Benji getting naked is enough to put them off a bloody good steak.
Of course, The Sun is The Sun, but what justification does PETA have for resorting to such images?
PETA are a bunch of fringe fanatics, devoid of respect for truth, decency, honesty or ethics.
Justification? From Peta?
Why would they start now?
I’m more worried about her getting chillie burn than the animals. If you’ve ever touched your eyes after handling chillies… Ai Ya!
saving animals
Darlene, the Peta link doesnt work.
Actually WBB, if go to the Peta link you will see its her compassion that makes her lie naked on a pile of chillies. Her compassion is so great, it seems her clothes fall off at the thought of the fluffy ones.
PETA have been using naked women to promote their cause for years now overseas, Darlene. I’m not surprised that they’ve started doing it here as well.
Not sure what the hell the ad people think is the relationship between vegetarianism and chilli, when in fact, chilli has traditionally been primarily used as a meat preservative.
I had to Google to see who Sophie Monk was. But must say, as TWOP immediately spotted, this is a very silly shot that most people would view (after admiring perfectly positioned hair, and silhoutte) and then think “ouch”.
Dear Sophie knows it too, which is why she is holding herself in such an unrelaxed and unerotic manner and concealing tender parts with such rigid lack of enjoyment and zero sensual pleasure.
In short: the message, whatever it is, is completely lost, nay undermined.
All the pic says is: vegetarianism is anti-erotic. Way to go! And which, funnily enough, ain’t true at all. Or so we’re told.
Medusa comes to mind.
Crap. The hair is Medusa, but Medusa would never have so passively, and dangerously, exposed herself in such a way to mere mortals. Or even gods. It is a crippling image. Hell, if it were powerful and genuinely erotic I would be the first to praise it.
I’d go so far as to say it is a sado-masochistic image. But is isn’t even that. Even there, the trad thing is that the woman gets at least some visceral, erotic pleasure. But look at Sophie’s face - an empty, frozen mask.
Isn’t the message that when you are naked it can get very chilly?
I think it’s a very mixed message - it’s either Sophie Monk as meat, in which case PETA is promoting cannibalism (or cannabilistic voyeurism); or it’s Sophie Monk as vegetable.
Aren’t snakes animals??
um, vegetarians eat chillies. Vegetarian cooking uses spices.
Sophie says: “If you are going to take your clothes off for something, it better be a good cause�.
G’don you Soph, I’m a rooly good cause - but do you give a discount on account of me bearing gifts and Senior’s Card?
(BTW Soph, Marilyn did it much better and for a better cause - stirring the nether regions of red blooded young lads waiting their turn at the barber’s shop.)
Maybe the message is “every time Sophie Monk puts her clothes back on, a cute wittle lammikins dies.”
So Darlene, which good cause would you nude up for?
My list includes:
1) Local bowls club members protest foreclosure.
2) Skin Cancer Awareness Week.
3) Modesty Now!
Is cheesecake vegetarian?
Hot chilli fart- ouch–Go vegeterian.
Sophie Monk Soup.
5 Carrots peeled and roughly cut.
Half a side of celery also roughly cut.
3 large onions peeled and left whole.
25 garlic cloves.
30 litres of filtered water.
Pop her in a very large pot, after she has been smeared with sufficient lard, on medium flame. Chuck in the rest of the ingredients, add favourite herbs, and get ready for a culinary treat.
Mmmmm….
OMG. Chillies, naked woman, two of the greatest motivators of my life.
But as a sales motivator? Get a life - it’s an image. It has bugger all to do with the message PETA is espousing.
I’ll nude up at the drop of a hat (my family would agree with this and would invite suggestions from readers as to how they put a stop to my doing this). But is Sophie Monk in the nuddie chilli-wise going to sell a BIGGER idea. I don’t think so.
Most people would agree. If we need to sell big ideas using such methods, there’s a problem.
I can confirm that the chillies are Jalapeños. Excellent with meat. Can’t confirm on the monk. Excellent with chillies, but.
SATP:
Regardless of which organization used it, it was certainly an original, eyecatching and memorable image and so too was its slogan …. and it was probably a lot cheaper than that famous Satchi&Satchi British Airways ad.
As a vegetarian, there are some strange things being said here,and well I suppose that cannot be helped if apparently one views all life through the lens of the protein in ones life. Living in a house with two bulls who live outside in the paddock,and what great fellows they are, are really good company. Steers ,a bit flighty depending on the age and their time ball less, but will come right up to you if you ly on the ground,wondering I think if a illness is in the smell. Heifers similar but sometimes difficult.And madam cows are very hard to get on and determine human relationships entirely by food. I do not think vegetarians could live on chillis alone, so whatever she is claiming about herself,I doubt the average vegetarian really thinks they need that many chillies in their life. Except for mixing with other things to stimulate externally stiffness in joints. As I am typing this nude,I must say that her nudism does nothing for me,and well she isnt within that area of matters I find attractive. Dont feel guilty for eating meat,but be concerned the animal was well treated,and raise an angry voice on behalf of anything do to with animal husbandry when you are disgusted. Being disgusted, is easy,try it for your conscience,so would you eat any of those chillies she is lying on,or would you want to know if it breaks health regulations!? Garlic unpeeled maybe,chillies no!! Hee HEEE heee. Should put up a smiler!
Yikes, will endeavour to fix link. I have this strange black line running down the middle of my computer.
Before my computer ups and dies, I will say that I find it offensive that PETA is so obsessed with its own cause that it can’t see that bad attitudes tend to bleed into one other (or at least they compliment one another). Perhaps they don’t care.
Perhaps the reaction to the picture will be mostly like that of the blokes who read The Sun.
Mercurius, thanks for those images that I didn’t need before bedtime.
I will need to think about what causes I’d nude up for.
She is too skinny already, she need a decent feed !
PETA People Eating Tasty Animals !
I am vegetarian I only eat processed grass
Grass processed by sheep and cows
Computer barely still here.
Yes, it’s important to care about the welfare of animals (I’m not going to pretend that I’m a vegetarian or that I think animals and people are equal beings), but not at the expense of women (or potential cures etc).
It’s a very odd picture. She does look devoid of any emotion or thought or sensuality for that matter.
Oh and if people are aware that cures can be found without using animals in experiments, I am open to hearing about that.
Ah -you are a pro-meat vegan?
(you might have to scroll down a bit but I promise it will be fun)
Not true, that’s why chilli sauces are typically made with sugar, salt and vinegar.
Chilli is good in vegetarian food for the same reasons it’s good with meat i.e. tasty. But as pulses etc can be pretty bland and veges lose their freshness before they go bad, chillies add a bit of liveliness.
Is it racy humour o’clock yet?
Isn’t it always, Mr Spice?
I’d hit it.
Then I’d want lamb chops. I think she needs some too, poor skinny little thing.
Well that’s true Anna but I don’t know if it’s especially tasteful to point out that the Sun and PETA are united in their inspiration to meat beating.
Anyway, it is another picture (though far from the best) for my folder of (nude/scantily clad) PETA girls.
The best PETA girl photos are usually non-PETA approved ones, snapped by a passer-by or a news photographer.
Lucky you didn’t then!
I’d just like to second The Worst of Perth’s comment, chilli burns on sensitive flesh can really really hurt and I hope that they were careful with the photo arrangment!
Yeah phew! Luckily Steve was there to labour the point though.
Regardless of which organization used it, it was certainly an original, eyecatching and memorable image and so too was its slogan …
Yeah. Hot blonde chick naked selling something.
Originality in the extreme there, I wonder how nobody ever thought of it before.
We use chillies in many of our vegetarian meals. Delicious. I grow various plants in the garden.
If Sophie Monk saves many animals from grotesque deaths then good for her. It’s her business if she wants to pose nude…noone’s forcing her…no exploitation here…just someone trying to make a difference & lessen the barbaric & cruel acts perpetrated by far too many Humans on domesticated animals that deserve better. Perhaps some people on this site should spend less time worrying about what good people do in their spare time & more on the abuses committed by fast food corporations across this World.
Animals should not have to die for your enjoyment. Full stop.
Darlene:
sadly, you are right …. but as ads go, it certainly is an attention-getting one.
Whether that then actually translates into changing behavior is a problem the advertising industry would probably prefer to leave undiscussed by the general public …. or by their customers.
Yobbo:
oops, sorry, hit “submit” before responding to your comment.
Agree. What I was thinking was of the type of customer/cause and its presumed placement; that would be original.
Only if you omit the bacon.
Maybe no-one at PETA is hot, so they had to outsource?
BTW, some other causes worthy of a nude protest:
4) International Frighten-A-Pensioner Day.
5) Surgical Scars Pride Week.
6) Vitamin D-licious!
I wholeheartedly support People Eating Tasty Animal’s ad campaign, and intend to indulge in Coq Au Vin at lunch today.
What happens when (not if) some future academic study reveals plants feel pain and have emotions? Who you gonna eat then? First they came for the vegetables, and I did not speak out -: because I was not a vegetable…
Steve, I bet you need even more photos for that folder, hey?
I guess it’s an eye-catching, but hardly an original (yes, sex sells). Obviously, PETA are only interested in getting members in the male 14-99 age bracket.
“Animals should not have to die for your enjoyment. Full stop.”
Well, I think dying for food and dying for enjoyment are two different things.
And I could say, that women shouldn’t be endlessly used in predictable photo shoots, especially by so-called progressive organisations.
Thanks Mercurius for your continuing efforts at comedy ; ). All good stuff.
Anthony, no racy humour please. Now come over here and give Darly a kiss.
Good old traditional sex role maxims illusstrated by Sofie/PETA.
1. The way to a man’s heart is via his stomach.
2. The way to a man’s stomach is via his gonads.
3. The way to a man’s gonads is via his eyes.
4. The way to a man’s eyes is via a Page Three Girl.
5. The way to a Page three Girl is via some CV-building contra.
6. The way to some CV-building contra is via the recognition that the shelf-life of marketable pulchritude is about as long as fresh fish’s.
It’s a little Dolcettish, isn’t it?
Katz, well put.
Who can blame PETA/Sophie for accepting that this sort of campaign will work.
Mmmm, I find the picture unilluminating, but I am not its target audience.
Re: medical research.
and more locally,
The fact is that animal experimentation, or vivisection, as it was originally known, and as it would be often more properly called still, offers as many problems as it does benefits. Our knowledge of human anatomy is not advanced by cutting up animals, and animal reactions to drugs may be significantly different to that of humans due to other metabolic features. Rats, for example, produce their own vitamin C, whereas humans must ingest it.
Regardless of whether you find Ms. Monk’s display arresting, attractive, arousing, or appropriate, she offers her most substantial asset is service to the cause, so I’ll judge the advertisement admirable.
Sophie Monk did it to raise her profile. She is a B/C grade celeb who does anything and everything to get ahead. Posing for playboy is a little too down-market, but doing it for PETA means she gets to expose lots, build recognition and still seem like she isn’t a Z grade porn star.
2 years from now. Sophie who?
Good point, Aidan. What she has done is not original but it works. Even more boring was the latest article proclaiming that Delta is all grown up and thus sexy now. How many times have we heard that about pop girls before (e.g. Kylie). As if dressing provocatively equates with being adult.
Credibility among the radical animal rights’ set. Mmmm.
Katz, remind me never to share a meal with you.
Perhaps, Liam, you are missing the distinction between being the eater and being the eaten.
Perhaps, and it’d certainly blur the distinction between food and enjoyment.
Waiter! A bowl of fruit for Katz, please.
All that moderation and the medical experimentation links didn’t get through. How annoying.
Here’s one.
Another.
Johns Hopkins.
And that local organisation.
Not all the same ones, but useful.
Greg, I dont want to look at your links, but I feel I have to. Im in the meatrix again, arent I?
Im such a scaredy flake, but the point is that your links would impact on people far more than Sophie’s effort. No one will become a vegetarian on account of this picture.
I can finally see your avatar, Casey. What a cute cat.
Greg’s links are very interesting, and certainly provide a lot more food for thought than the picture.
See, if you want to sell food, you need meat.
That’s it, I’m going now.
Darlene:
but that’s the point, such an ad with that picture was unexpected, unpredictable.
That a completely different picture - equally unexpected, unpredictable, arresting - should have been used is another question entirely. For instance, would have a picture of an elegantly dressed human with a cute furry [unskinned] animal clenched between bloodstained teeth been more appropriate?.
I’m still baffled by the similar PETA ad Alicia Silverstone posed for, where she’s reclining naked and actually looks disturbingly like they’ve put make-up on a corpse. I mean, really, I’m not entirely certain having a woman who looks somewhat deceased with the caption “I’m a vegetarian” is going to encourage vegetarianism.
Graham, I dunno, I didn’t actually find it particularly unexpected at all, though that may be because I’ve seen PETA’s US campaign run in a similar fashion, but I don’t recall being particularly surprised by that either when I first saw it. And honestly, the naked woman selling tactic is so unoriginal that, despite being attracted to women in the general sense, I didn’t really pay enough attention to see what the ad was for until someone else told me.
Speaking of animals, chilis and sex….
“Put a bottle of Dom on ice and get some Ecstasy, I’m gonna come over tonight and put a hot pepper up your arse…”
Jennifer Gearing:
Maybe it’s just me. I was surprised and thought it was a novel approach by an activist group…. at least as novel as the Stella Artois beer ads of the man with his performing pig or of how to get a perfect beer on a train.
when Humans have the option of living w/out munching on the carcass of an abused animal (breeding to execute them is abuse in my book) & decide to do so anyway, i find it hard to believe it’s not about keeping their taste buds happy & merry.
Unless of course they’ve flicked off the compassion button & blocked their ears to the dying animals groans & screams in order to conform to their peer & families’ expectations, which is tantamount to wearing rose coloured glasses during the Holocaust…or to make bucks, which is grotesquely opportunistic and doesn’t make it right…or have been brainwashed by some dopey religious organisation, which says a great deal about their level of independent thought…or get a perverse enjoyment out of the knowledge that animals are being enslaved & executed in their billions, which tells us heaps about their level of moral development & perhaps could even fall into the HUMAN SUPREMACY category…& tells us quite about why this World is so screwed up & violence still remains one of Humanity’s preferred means of communication & control.
And if it turns out that vegetables are being caused pain, then we will have to find another way to live…hopefully by then we’ll be roaming the Universal datasphere or such.
Hey, i thought this was a Progressive site? Would you eat your pet? What’s the diff between some poor walking veal cutlet & your dog? Your decision-making processes…that’s what.
“That a completely different picture - equally unexpected, unpredictable, arresting - should have been used is another question entirely. For instance, would have a picture of an elegantly dressed human with a cute furry [unskinned] animal clenched between bloodstained teeth been more appropriate?.”
Possibly, Graham. That’d be shocking. While it’s hardly the answer, what about a picture of a good looking bloke lying on some condiment? While does it always have to be women who are paraded in such a way?
It doesn’t inspire me to think more about the cause.
“I’m still baffled by the similar PETA ad Alicia Silverstone posed for, where she’s reclining naked and actually looks disturbingly like they’ve put make-up on a corpse. I mean, really, I’m not entirely certain having a woman who looks somewhat deceased with the caption “I’m a vegetarianâ€? is going to encourage vegetarianism.”
Absolutely, Jennifer. One could say the same thing about Sophie’s picture. Perhaps they are trying to make these women look like dead meat; dead flesh.
Ouch, Nabakov. Now I know why I hate serial killer movies.
“Unless of course they’ve flicked off the compassion button & blocked their ears to the dying animals groans & screams in order to conform to their peer & families’ expectations, which is tantamount to wearing rose coloured glasses during the Holocaust.”
Wow, PETA have found themselves in trouble for making similar comparisons. Some Jewish groups have not been happy over such views.
While I reject the idea that the death of animals is equal to the death of people, I am happy to look further into the sort of conditions that animals are kept in when it comes to the meat production process. If anyone who’s interested in the issue knows of some worthwhile information in relation to the issue, please feel free to email me via my blog (link at right).
Just quickly Darlene, Omnivore’s Dilemma by Michael Pollan. Great for seeing the treatment of animal as part of a bigger picture of what we eat and a good read to boot.
Thanks very much for that, Anthony.
Will purchase a copy.
Aye, ’tis a good book. Though as someone here said (Brain B praps?) a bit of a treasure hunt. It’s informative and a great read, but the way it proceeds from conclusions to argument is pretty thinly veiled. Too thinly probably to convince anyone reluctant.
In the meantime, Michael Pollan’s website has links to many articles. I remember An Animal’s Place (Nov 10 2002) was quite powerful.
Fer godsakes, she’s not even lying on the chillis; it’s a superimposition, or should that be a super-shit-imposition. Look at the size of the chillis in comparison to young Soph. Gad, they’re ginormouser than anything I’ve cooked with!
In ref to Nabakov on 24 October 2007 at 7:41 pm: Notwithstanding my point above, if you look carefully at the position of both her arse and her face, I’d say she’s a “Hot Chilli Woman” already. Noiseworks were no doubt included.
Yes, jalapenos though they are, they’re much too big to be plausible. Well spotted.
Have this “Youie” person taken to the Ice Fortress at once.
And I want to see the Head of the Photographic Sub-Ministry immediately. I’m sorry, I misspoke: what I want to see, is the head of the Head of the P.S.M.
And where’s that bloody Thai iced coffee I asked for half an hour ago? Do I have to do everything around here myself?
Darlene, I saw this doco on SBS recently. I think it’s one of the reasons i’ve been so agro regarding the topic of animal rights lately. I used to be more diplomatic:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6519535218145024871
Nasking, perhaps you linked to the wrong doco? As the topic of animal rights goes, that doco is a complete non-event. Nothing to see.
Thanks Boynton. Yes, I never noticed that all his articles were on there.
I will print some to read on the weekend.
Youie, thanks for that. Yikes, well, it doesn’t diminish my annoyance with the picture. I just think she’s not committed enough now to lying on a bed of chillis.
“And where’s that bloody Thai iced coffee I asked for half an hour ago? Do I have to do everything around here myself?”
I think you’ll find you have to serve yourself around here (not into oppressing the workers).
Nasking, will look at later at home.
Cheers
Darlene
as in no rights?…just abuse. I think you’ve had too many beers at the pub Steve.
“Nasking, will look at later at home.”
i give you credit for showing interest Darlene. Make sure you have a wine first. This doco made me very depressed and angry. And pleased i’d been primarily vegan for 15 years.
cheers.
Nasking, it may be helpful if you cite an example of how that doco should enrage people?
All it shows is a group of pommy abbottoir workers being interviewed about threir careers. Interspersed with some footage of the abbottoir in action and some anthropological commentary on their (limited) social views.
It is of interest for the differences, particularly in efficiencies, between that abbottoir and Queensland abbottoirs. Also of great interest is the pig procedures, many of which are alien to those of us who have never had anything to do with domestic or commercial pig slaughter.
However the documentary is an anthropological one about abbottoir workers, and does not explain the quirks of pig slaughter/butchery, leaving me none the wiser. In fact it explains almost nothing of abbottoir operations, just shows some workaday operations in short clips.
Animals rights? Abuse - (strong language in the workplace notwithstanding)? Wrong doco. Make one depressed and angry? About what? The workers lives are portrayed in a gloomy fashion, but the doco does nothing else.
BTW, aren’t I credited along with Darlene for “showing interest”? After all, I did watch the entire show!
Nasking, if you asked me what was the thing about myself that I’d soonest change, I’d say my addiction to meat and dairy.
Because that’s all it is really, an addiction. We eat vegetarian 3 times a week on average but that’s small consolation for the various pigs and chooks which do get eaten.
What’s the difference between a porker and my dog? Essentially, nothing (especially if she goes the way she’s going, will need a diet as she gets older.)And if I do give up all meat, I don’t think I’ll be able to give up on pets - so I’ll still be a meat consumer.
All power to Nask, Christy and others with the will to not eat the stuff.
That’s not an addiction, Helen, that’s a consumer choice. That you feel twangs in your conscience for supporting abbatoirs and dairies is neither here nor there. What a debased definition of ‘addiction’ that includes regular foodstuffs!
A steak-and-egg-and-cheese sandwich is just a meal. If it acts as a depressant or a stimulant, or if it has psychotropic effects, or if it provokes an attachment stronger than merely emotion or nostalgia, you ought to have words with your butcher or cafeteria, or whatever.
Darlene:
That cetainly would be attention-grabbing too; [made me think of a bumpersticker I saw in the United States …. “Legalize Cannibilism”]
How much impact has a non-sexist non-abusive low-key but well-made and very direct campaign like the Water-Health-Life series on SBS TV over several months [and presumably still running]? Just wondering.
These things can be impossible to determine (the impacts of campaigns, that is), Graham. I think change is always a slow incremental thing. Different things work for different people, although I stand by my contention that PETA have failed to realise that bad attitudes all bleed into one another (e.g. a sexist probably doesn’t give a stuff about the quality of life of a battery hen).
I am willing to admit that I’ve been an unthinking consumer of food for my whole life. Grew up eating meat and three veg, and just continued to eat meat and other animal-related products just because I did.
Food can have an addictive quality. I was sitting in KFC not so long ago wondering what the hell I was doing there and realising that KFC gives you that instant hit and then makes you feel like crap. There was a woman sitting close by who consumed two large containers of mashed potato and gravy in a very short time. Addiction to food in general is another topic altogether, I guess.
I’ll give you props, Steve, for what it’s worth.
Have a good weekend everybody.
Mmm, I can buy food ‘addiction’ for problem eaters and people suffering body-image related mental illness, but the addictiveness in those cases doesn’t reside in the food. Eating satisfies hunger, that’s all, and being ‘addicted’ to KFC is a matter of habit, not compulsion. As long as you get enough dietary salt somewhere else, you’re not going to go into secret-herbs-and-spices withdrawal. You might as well talk about being ‘addicted’ to catching the lift instead of walking up the stairs.
Anyway, for those of you doing roasts on the weekend, try this out: once you’ve marinated and cooked that leg of lamb or bit of silverside, just tenderly so it’s still squishy-juicy, and once you’ve carved it on a recessed chopping board that saves the liquid blood-and-fat residue, pour it into old-fashioned glasses, add a bit of Worcestershire sauce and some caramelised trimmings, maybe a chopped bit of chilli or roast capsicum if you’ve done some, and 60ml vodka per glass.
Drink moderately warm.