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	<title>Comments on: Sexism saves animals?</title>
	<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/10/23/sexism-saves-animals/</link>
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		<title>By: The Devil Drink</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/10/23/sexism-saves-animals/#comment-413897</link>
		<dc:creator>The Devil Drink</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Oct 2007 07:34:41 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/10/23/sexism-saves-animals/#comment-413897</guid>
		<description>Mmm, I can buy food 'addiction' for problem eaters and people suffering body-image related mental illness, but the addictiveness in those cases doesn't reside in the food. Eating satisfies hunger, that's all, and being 'addicted' to KFC is a matter of habit, not compulsion. As long as you get enough dietary salt somewhere else, you're not going to go into secret-herbs-and-spices withdrawal. You might as well talk about being 'addicted' to catching the lift instead of walking up the stairs.
Anyway, for those of you doing roasts on the weekend, try this out: once you've marinated and cooked that leg of lamb or bit of silverside, just tenderly so it's still squishy-juicy, and once you've carved it on a recessed chopping board that saves the liquid blood-and-fat residue, pour it into old-fashioned glasses, add a bit of Worcestershire sauce and some caramelised trimmings, maybe a chopped bit of chilli or roast capsicum if you've done some, and 60ml vodka per glass.
Drink moderately warm.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mmm, I can buy food &#8216;addiction&#8217; for problem eaters and people suffering body-image related mental illness, but the addictiveness in those cases doesn&#8217;t reside in the food. Eating satisfies hunger, that&#8217;s all, and being &#8216;addicted&#8217; to KFC is a matter of habit, not compulsion. As long as you get enough dietary salt somewhere else, you&#8217;re not going to go into secret-herbs-and-spices withdrawal. You might as well talk about being &#8216;addicted&#8217; to catching the lift instead of walking up the stairs.<br />
Anyway, for those of you doing roasts on the weekend, try this out: once you&#8217;ve marinated and cooked that leg of lamb or bit of silverside, just tenderly so it&#8217;s still squishy-juicy, and once you&#8217;ve carved it on a recessed chopping board that saves the liquid blood-and-fat residue, pour it into old-fashioned glasses, add a bit of Worcestershire sauce and some caramelised trimmings, maybe a chopped bit of chilli or roast capsicum if you&#8217;ve done some, and 60ml vodka per glass.<br />
Drink moderately warm.</p>
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		<title>By: Darlene</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/10/23/sexism-saves-animals/#comment-413896</link>
		<dc:creator>Darlene</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Oct 2007 07:03:09 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/10/23/sexism-saves-animals/#comment-413896</guid>
		<description>These things can be impossible to determine (the impacts of campaigns, that is), Graham. I think change is always a slow incremental thing. Different things work for different people, although I stand by my contention that PETA have failed to realise that bad attitudes all bleed into one another (e.g. a sexist probably doesn't give a stuff about the quality of life of a battery hen).

I am willing to admit that I've been an unthinking consumer of food for my whole life. Grew up eating meat and three veg, and just continued to eat meat and other animal-related products just because I did.  

Food can have an addictive quality. I was sitting in KFC not so long ago wondering what the hell I was doing there and realising that KFC gives you that instant hit and then makes you feel like crap. There was a woman sitting close by who consumed two large containers of mashed potato and gravy in a very short time. Addiction to food in general is another topic altogether, I guess. 

I'll give you props, Steve, for what it's worth. 

Have a good weekend everybody.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These things can be impossible to determine (the impacts of campaigns, that is), Graham. I think change is always a slow incremental thing. Different things work for different people, although I stand by my contention that PETA have failed to realise that bad attitudes all bleed into one another (e.g. a sexist probably doesn&#8217;t give a stuff about the quality of life of a battery hen).</p>
<p>I am willing to admit that I&#8217;ve been an unthinking consumer of food for my whole life. Grew up eating meat and three veg, and just continued to eat meat and other animal-related products just because I did.  </p>
<p>Food can have an addictive quality. I was sitting in KFC not so long ago wondering what the hell I was doing there and realising that KFC gives you that instant hit and then makes you feel like crap. There was a woman sitting close by who consumed two large containers of mashed potato and gravy in a very short time. Addiction to food in general is another topic altogether, I guess. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ll give you props, Steve, for what it&#8217;s worth. </p>
<p>Have a good weekend everybody.</p>
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		<title>By: Graham Bell</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/10/23/sexism-saves-animals/#comment-413894</link>
		<dc:creator>Graham Bell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Oct 2007 06:50:13 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/10/23/sexism-saves-animals/#comment-413894</guid>
		<description>Darlene:
&lt;blockquote&gt;"what about a picture of a good looking bloke lying on some condiment?" &lt;/blockquote&gt;
That cetainly would be attention-grabbing too; [made me think of a bumpersticker I saw in the United States .... "Legalize Cannibilism"]

How much impact has a non-sexist non-abusive low-key but well-made and very direct campaign like the Water-Health-Life series on SBS TV over several months [and presumably still running]?   Just wondering.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Darlene:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;what about a picture of a good looking bloke lying on some condiment?&#8221; </p></blockquote>
<p>That cetainly would be attention-grabbing too; [made me think of a bumpersticker I saw in the United States &#8230;. &#8220;Legalize Cannibilism&#8221;]</p>
<p>How much impact has a non-sexist non-abusive low-key but well-made and very direct campaign like the Water-Health-Life series on SBS TV over several months [and presumably still running]?   Just wondering.</p>
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		<title>By: The Devil Drink</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/10/23/sexism-saves-animals/#comment-413880</link>
		<dc:creator>The Devil Drink</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Oct 2007 05:44:57 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/10/23/sexism-saves-animals/#comment-413880</guid>
		<description>That's not an addiction, Helen, that's a consumer choice. That you feel twangs in your conscience for supporting abbatoirs and dairies is neither here nor there. What a debased definition of 'addiction' that includes regular foodstuffs!
A steak-and-egg-and-cheese sandwich is just a meal. If it acts as a depressant or a stimulant, or if it has psychotropic effects, or if it provokes an attachment stronger than merely emotion or nostalgia, you ought to have words with your butcher or cafeteria, or whatever.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s not an addiction, Helen, that&#8217;s a consumer choice. That you feel twangs in your conscience for supporting abbatoirs and dairies is neither here nor there. What a debased definition of &#8216;addiction&#8217; that includes regular foodstuffs!<br />
A steak-and-egg-and-cheese sandwich is just a meal. If it acts as a depressant or a stimulant, or if it has psychotropic effects, or if it provokes an attachment stronger than merely emotion or nostalgia, you ought to have words with your butcher or cafeteria, or whatever.</p>
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		<title>By: Helen</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/10/23/sexism-saves-animals/#comment-413877</link>
		<dc:creator>Helen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Oct 2007 05:30:43 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/10/23/sexism-saves-animals/#comment-413877</guid>
		<description>Nasking, if you asked me what was the thing about myself that I'd soonest change, I'd say my addiction to meat and dairy.

Because that's all it is really, an addiction. We eat vegetarian 3 times a week on average but that's small consolation for the various pigs and chooks which do get eaten.

What's the difference between a porker and my dog? Essentially, nothing (especially if she goes the way she's going, will need a diet as she gets older.)And if I do give up all meat, I don't think I'll be able to give up on pets - so I'll still be a meat consumer.

All power to Nask, Christy and others with the will to not eat the stuff.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nasking, if you asked me what was the thing about myself that I&#8217;d soonest change, I&#8217;d say my addiction to meat and dairy.</p>
<p>Because that&#8217;s all it is really, an addiction. We eat vegetarian 3 times a week on average but that&#8217;s small consolation for the various pigs and chooks which do get eaten.</p>
<p>What&#8217;s the difference between a porker and my dog? Essentially, nothing (especially if she goes the way she&#8217;s going, will need a diet as she gets older.)And if I do give up all meat, I don&#8217;t think I&#8217;ll be able to give up on pets - so I&#8217;ll still be a meat consumer.</p>
<p>All power to Nask, Christy and others with the will to not eat the stuff.</p>
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		<title>By: steve at the pub</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/10/23/sexism-saves-animals/#comment-413864</link>
		<dc:creator>steve at the pub</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Oct 2007 03:49:29 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/10/23/sexism-saves-animals/#comment-413864</guid>
		<description>Nasking, it may be helpful if you cite an example of how that doco should enrage people?

All it shows is a group of pommy abbottoir workers being interviewed about threir careers.  Interspersed with some footage of the abbottoir in action and some anthropological commentary on their (limited) social views.

It is of interest for the differences, particularly in efficiencies, between that abbottoir and Queensland abbottoirs.  Also of great interest is the pig procedures, many of which are alien to those of us who have never had anything to do with domestic or commercial pig slaughter.

However the documentary is an anthropological one about abbottoir workers, and does not explain the quirks of pig slaughter/butchery, leaving me none the wiser.  In fact it explains almost nothing of abbottoir operations, just shows some workaday operations in short clips.

Animals rights?  Abuse - (strong language in the workplace notwithstanding)?  Wrong doco.   Make one depressed and angry?  About what?  The workers lives are portrayed in a gloomy fashion, but the doco does nothing else.

BTW, aren't I credited along with Darlene for "showing interest"?  After all, I did watch the entire show!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nasking, it may be helpful if you cite an example of how that doco should enrage people?</p>
<p>All it shows is a group of pommy abbottoir workers being interviewed about threir careers.  Interspersed with some footage of the abbottoir in action and some anthropological commentary on their (limited) social views.</p>
<p>It is of interest for the differences, particularly in efficiencies, between that abbottoir and Queensland abbottoirs.  Also of great interest is the pig procedures, many of which are alien to those of us who have never had anything to do with domestic or commercial pig slaughter.</p>
<p>However the documentary is an anthropological one about abbottoir workers, and does not explain the quirks of pig slaughter/butchery, leaving me none the wiser.  In fact it explains almost nothing of abbottoir operations, just shows some workaday operations in short clips.</p>
<p>Animals rights?  Abuse - (strong language in the workplace notwithstanding)?  Wrong doco.   Make one depressed and angry?  About what?  The workers lives are portrayed in a gloomy fashion, but the doco does nothing else.</p>
<p>BTW, aren&#8217;t I credited along with Darlene for &#8220;showing interest&#8221;?  After all, I did watch the entire show!</p>
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		<title>By: nasking</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/10/23/sexism-saves-animals/#comment-413856</link>
		<dc:creator>nasking</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Oct 2007 02:09:13 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/10/23/sexism-saves-animals/#comment-413856</guid>
		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Nasking, perhaps you linked to the wrong doco? As the topic of animal rights goes, that doco is a complete non-event. Nothing to see.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

as in no rights?...just abuse. I think you've had too many beers at the pub Steve.

"Nasking, will look at later at home."

i give you credit for showing interest Darlene. Make sure you have a wine first. This doco made me very depressed and angry. And pleased i'd been primarily vegan for 15 years.
cheers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Nasking, perhaps you linked to the wrong doco? As the topic of animal rights goes, that doco is a complete non-event. Nothing to see.</p></blockquote>
<p>as in no rights?&#8230;just abuse. I think you&#8217;ve had too many beers at the pub Steve.</p>
<p>&#8220;Nasking, will look at later at home.&#8221;</p>
<p>i give you credit for showing interest Darlene. Make sure you have a wine first. This doco made me very depressed and angry. And pleased i&#8217;d been primarily vegan for 15 years.<br />
cheers.</p>
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		<title>By: Darlene</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/10/23/sexism-saves-animals/#comment-413795</link>
		<dc:creator>Darlene</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Oct 2007 22:50:44 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/10/23/sexism-saves-animals/#comment-413795</guid>
		<description>Nasking, will look at later at home. 

Cheers
Darlene</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nasking, will look at later at home. </p>
<p>Cheers<br />
Darlene</p>
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		<title>By: Darlene</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/10/23/sexism-saves-animals/#comment-413794</link>
		<dc:creator>Darlene</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Oct 2007 22:47:35 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/10/23/sexism-saves-animals/#comment-413794</guid>
		<description>Thanks Boynton. Yes, I never noticed that all his articles were on there. 

I will print some to read on the weekend. 

Youie, thanks for that. Yikes, well, it doesn't diminish my annoyance with the picture. I just think she's not committed enough now to lying on a bed of chillis. 

"And whereâ€™s that bloody Thai iced coffee I asked for half an hour ago? Do I have to do everything around here myself?"

I think you'll find you have to serve yourself around here (not into oppressing the workers).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Boynton. Yes, I never noticed that all his articles were on there. </p>
<p>I will print some to read on the weekend. </p>
<p>Youie, thanks for that. Yikes, well, it doesn&#8217;t diminish my annoyance with the picture. I just think she&#8217;s not committed enough now to lying on a bed of chillis. </p>
<p>&#8220;And whereâ€™s that bloody Thai iced coffee I asked for half an hour ago? Do I have to do everything around here myself?&#8221;</p>
<p>I think you&#8217;ll find you have to serve yourself around here (not into oppressing the workers).</p>
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		<title>By: steve at the pub</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/10/23/sexism-saves-animals/#comment-413774</link>
		<dc:creator>steve at the pub</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Oct 2007 15:46:47 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/10/23/sexism-saves-animals/#comment-413774</guid>
		<description>Nasking, perhaps you linked to the wrong doco?  As the topic of animal rights goes, that doco is a complete non-event.  Nothing to see.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nasking, perhaps you linked to the wrong doco?  As the topic of animal rights goes, that doco is a complete non-event.  Nothing to see.</p>
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		<title>By: nasking</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/10/23/sexism-saves-animals/#comment-413739</link>
		<dc:creator>nasking</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Oct 2007 09:25:23 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/10/23/sexism-saves-animals/#comment-413739</guid>
		<description>Darlene, I saw this doco on SBS recently. I think it's one of the reasons i've been so agro regarding the topic of animal rights lately. I used to be more diplomatic:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6519535218145024871</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Darlene, I saw this doco on SBS recently. I think it&#8217;s one of the reasons i&#8217;ve been so agro regarding the topic of animal rights lately. I used to be more diplomatic:</p>
<p><a href="http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6519535218145024871" rel="nofollow">http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6519535218145024871</a></p>
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		<title>By: The Ministry of Lies</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/10/23/sexism-saves-animals/#comment-413728</link>
		<dc:creator>The Ministry of Lies</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Oct 2007 07:43:46 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/10/23/sexism-saves-animals/#comment-413728</guid>
		<description>Have this "Youie" person taken to the Ice Fortress at once.

And I want to see the Head of the Photographic Sub-Ministry immediately.  I'm sorry, I misspoke: what I want to see, is the head of the Head of the P.S.M.

And where's that bloody Thai iced coffee I asked for half an hour ago?  Do I have to do everything around here myself?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have this &#8220;Youie&#8221; person taken to the Ice Fortress at once.</p>
<p>And I want to see the Head of the Photographic Sub-Ministry immediately.  I&#8217;m sorry, I misspoke: what I want to see, is the head of the Head of the P.S.M.</p>
<p>And where&#8217;s that bloody Thai iced coffee I asked for half an hour ago?  Do I have to do everything around here myself?</p>
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		<title>By: FDB</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/10/23/sexism-saves-animals/#comment-413726</link>
		<dc:creator>FDB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Oct 2007 07:36:33 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/10/23/sexism-saves-animals/#comment-413726</guid>
		<description>Yes, jalapenos though they are, they're much too big to be plausible. Well spotted.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, jalapenos though they are, they&#8217;re much too big to be plausible. Well spotted.</p>
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		<title>By: Youie</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/10/23/sexism-saves-animals/#comment-413725</link>
		<dc:creator>Youie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Oct 2007 07:33:30 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/10/23/sexism-saves-animals/#comment-413725</guid>
		<description>Fer godsakes, she's not even lying on the chillis; it's a superimposition, or should that be a super-shit-imposition. Look at the size of the chillis in comparison to young Soph. Gad, they're ginormouser than anything I've cooked with!

In ref to Nabakov on 24 October 2007 at 7:41 pm: Notwithstanding my point above, if you look carefully at the position of both her arse and her face, I'd say she's a "Hot Chilli Woman" already. Noiseworks were no doubt included.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fer godsakes, she&#8217;s not even lying on the chillis; it&#8217;s a superimposition, or should that be a super-shit-imposition. Look at the size of the chillis in comparison to young Soph. Gad, they&#8217;re ginormouser than anything I&#8217;ve cooked with!</p>
<p>In ref to Nabakov on 24 October 2007 at 7:41 pm: Notwithstanding my point above, if you look carefully at the position of both her arse and her face, I&#8217;d say she&#8217;s a &#8220;Hot Chilli Woman&#8221; already. Noiseworks were no doubt included.</p>
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		<title>By: boynton</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/10/23/sexism-saves-animals/#comment-413708</link>
		<dc:creator>boynton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Oct 2007 06:18:13 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/10/23/sexism-saves-animals/#comment-413708</guid>
		<description>In the meantime, &lt;a href="http://www.michaelpollan.com/write.php" rel="nofollow"&gt;Michael Pollan's website &lt;/a&gt;has links to many articles. I remember  &lt;em&gt;An Animal's Place &lt;/em&gt; (Nov 10 2002) was quite powerful.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the meantime, <a href="http://www.michaelpollan.com/write.php" rel="nofollow">Michael Pollan&#8217;s website </a>has links to many articles. I remember  <em>An Animal&#8217;s Place </em> (Nov 10 2002) was quite powerful.</p>
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		<title>By: FDB</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/10/23/sexism-saves-animals/#comment-413622</link>
		<dc:creator>FDB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Oct 2007 00:56:38 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/10/23/sexism-saves-animals/#comment-413622</guid>
		<description>Aye, 'tis a good book. Though as someone here said (Brain B praps?) a bit of a treasure hunt. It's informative and a great read, but the way it proceeds from conclusions to argument is pretty thinly veiled. Too thinly probably to convince anyone reluctant.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aye, &#8217;tis a good book. Though as someone here said (Brain B praps?) a bit of a treasure hunt. It&#8217;s informative and a great read, but the way it proceeds from conclusions to argument is pretty thinly veiled. Too thinly probably to convince anyone reluctant.</p>
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		<title>By: Darlene</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/10/23/sexism-saves-animals/#comment-413611</link>
		<dc:creator>Darlene</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Oct 2007 00:11:06 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/10/23/sexism-saves-animals/#comment-413611</guid>
		<description>Thanks very much for that, Anthony. 

Will purchase a copy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks very much for that, Anthony. </p>
<p>Will purchase a copy.</p>
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		<title>By: anthony</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/10/23/sexism-saves-animals/#comment-413608</link>
		<dc:creator>anthony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2007 23:55:30 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/10/23/sexism-saves-animals/#comment-413608</guid>
		<description>Just quickly Darlene, &lt;a href="http://www.michaelpollan.com/omnivore.php" rel="nofollow"&gt;Omnivore's Dilemma&lt;/a&gt; by Michael Pollan.  Great for seeing the treatment of animal as part of a bigger picture of what we eat and a good read to boot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just quickly Darlene, <a href="http://www.michaelpollan.com/omnivore.php" rel="nofollow">Omnivore&#8217;s Dilemma</a> by Michael Pollan.  Great for seeing the treatment of animal as part of a bigger picture of what we eat and a good read to boot.</p>
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		<title>By: Darlene</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2007/10/23/sexism-saves-animals/#comment-413595</link>
		<dc:creator>Darlene</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2007 23:00:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"Unless of course theyâ€™ve flicked off the compassion button &#38; blocked their ears to the dying animals groans &#38; screams in order to conform to their peer &#38; familiesâ€™ expectations, which is tantamount to wearing rose coloured glasses during the Holocaust."

Wow, PETA have found themselves in trouble for making similar comparisons. Some Jewish groups have not been happy over such views.

While I reject the idea that the death of animals is equal to the death of people, I am happy to look further into the sort of conditions that animals are kept in when it comes to the meat production process. If anyone who's interested in the issue knows of some worthwhile information in relation to the issue, please feel free to email me via my blog (link at right).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Unless of course theyâ€™ve flicked off the compassion button &amp; blocked their ears to the dying animals groans &amp; screams in order to conform to their peer &amp; familiesâ€™ expectations, which is tantamount to wearing rose coloured glasses during the Holocaust.&#8221;</p>
<p>Wow, PETA have found themselves in trouble for making similar comparisons. Some Jewish groups have not been happy over such views.</p>
<p>While I reject the idea that the death of animals is equal to the death of people, I am happy to look further into the sort of conditions that animals are kept in when it comes to the meat production process. If anyone who&#8217;s interested in the issue knows of some worthwhile information in relation to the issue, please feel free to email me via my blog (link at right).</p>
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		<title>By: Darlene</title>
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		<dc:creator>Darlene</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2007 22:56:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"That a completely different picture - equally unexpected, unpredictable, arresting - should have been used is another question entirely. For instance, would have a picture of an elegantly dressed human with a cute furry [unskinned] animal clenched between bloodstained teeth been more appropriate?."

Possibly, Graham. That'd be shocking. While it's hardly the answer, what about a picture of a good looking bloke lying on some condiment? While does it always have to be women who are paraded in such a way? 

It doesn't inspire me to think more about the cause.  

"Iâ€™m still baffled by the similar PETA ad Alicia Silverstone posed for, where sheâ€™s reclining naked and actually looks disturbingly like theyâ€™ve put make-up on a corpse. I mean, really, Iâ€™m not entirely certain having a woman who looks somewhat deceased with the caption â€œIâ€™m a vegetarianâ€? is going to encourage vegetarianism."

Absolutely, Jennifer. One could say the same thing about Sophie's picture. Perhaps they are trying to make these women look like dead meat; dead flesh. 

Ouch, Nabakov. Now I know why I hate serial killer movies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;That a completely different picture - equally unexpected, unpredictable, arresting - should have been used is another question entirely. For instance, would have a picture of an elegantly dressed human with a cute furry [unskinned] animal clenched between bloodstained teeth been more appropriate?.&#8221;</p>
<p>Possibly, Graham. That&#8217;d be shocking. While it&#8217;s hardly the answer, what about a picture of a good looking bloke lying on some condiment? While does it always have to be women who are paraded in such a way? </p>
<p>It doesn&#8217;t inspire me to think more about the cause.  </p>
<p>&#8220;Iâ€™m still baffled by the similar PETA ad Alicia Silverstone posed for, where sheâ€™s reclining naked and actually looks disturbingly like theyâ€™ve put make-up on a corpse. I mean, really, Iâ€™m not entirely certain having a woman who looks somewhat deceased with the caption â€œIâ€™m a vegetarianâ€? is going to encourage vegetarianism.&#8221;</p>
<p>Absolutely, Jennifer. One could say the same thing about Sophie&#8217;s picture. Perhaps they are trying to make these women look like dead meat; dead flesh. </p>
<p>Ouch, Nabakov. Now I know why I hate serial killer movies.</p>
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