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		<title>By: Tim</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/01/07/a-weighty-problem/comment-page-2/#comment-427539</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jan 2008 12:34:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>People talk about yo-yoing weight and blah blah. Makes me wonder how many on here have personal experience on this.

From me:
At school I was overweight. Poor eating. Late development (testosterone) didn&#039;t help.
Not knowing how to fix it didn&#039;t help. Had I someone in school to encourage me, and a class to show how, I could have loved to have tackled this.

Anyway. Late year 12, took matters into my own hands - started running, surfing, working at a newsagents - carting papers early mornings etc. Weight fell off. Uni came, more surfing, eating well, work etc. Lost more. 5&#039;7&quot;, got to around 75kg. Finished uni, started work (office), stacked it on. Bad relationship, stopped exercising, blew out to 88kg.

One day, I just woke up, stopped the morose self hate (that&#039;s what it is, really) - joined a gym. Started smashing weights, riding to work, cut carbs (initially only), running. 88kg July 04. I am 61kg now. I lost 3kg over xmas. Eating chocolate etc, but running everyday, swimming, cycling, surfing.

See, it&#039;s pretty simple - you only have to want to change and then do it. I woke at 6am today and punched 170km out on the bike. This week I&#039;ll commute 250km on the bike, run 25 km or so, and do weights and swim about 3km. I&#039;m addicted.

people don&#039;t understand the power of eating well, looking effing fantastic and feeling incredible. I want everyone who is overweight to realise this. Yes, it&#039;s hard. There are no easy fixes. But, you don&#039;t have to yo-yo. You cannot crash (it is not sustainable).

But, You. Can. Change.

Factors to losing weight. Self respect. Recognising it&#039;s an issue. Constructive encouragement. Education (eating).

get this info into schools to kids. Start there. They&#039;ll go home and hopefully shopping habits change from mum and dad. Maybe the kids do some weights and start running. Maybe dad takes them surfing.

It&#039;s a holistic thing. Everyone needs to get involved but ultimately the individual has to want to change, next step is they need to know how to do it, then where to go.
Adults know to go to the gym.
Kids need help.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>People talk about yo-yoing weight and blah blah. Makes me wonder how many on here have personal experience on this.</p>
<p>From me:<br />
At school I was overweight. Poor eating. Late development (testosterone) didn&#8217;t help.<br />
Not knowing how to fix it didn&#8217;t help. Had I someone in school to encourage me, and a class to show how, I could have loved to have tackled this.</p>
<p>Anyway. Late year 12, took matters into my own hands &#8211; started running, surfing, working at a newsagents &#8211; carting papers early mornings etc. Weight fell off. Uni came, more surfing, eating well, work etc. Lost more. 5&#8242;7&#8243;, got to around 75kg. Finished uni, started work (office), stacked it on. Bad relationship, stopped exercising, blew out to 88kg.</p>
<p>One day, I just woke up, stopped the morose self hate (that&#8217;s what it is, really) &#8211; joined a gym. Started smashing weights, riding to work, cut carbs (initially only), running. 88kg July 04. I am 61kg now. I lost 3kg over xmas. Eating chocolate etc, but running everyday, swimming, cycling, surfing.</p>
<p>See, it&#8217;s pretty simple &#8211; you only have to want to change and then do it. I woke at 6am today and punched 170km out on the bike. This week I&#8217;ll commute 250km on the bike, run 25 km or so, and do weights and swim about 3km. I&#8217;m addicted.</p>
<p>people don&#8217;t understand the power of eating well, looking effing fantastic and feeling incredible. I want everyone who is overweight to realise this. Yes, it&#8217;s hard. There are no easy fixes. But, you don&#8217;t have to yo-yo. You cannot crash (it is not sustainable).</p>
<p>But, You. Can. Change.</p>
<p>Factors to losing weight. Self respect. Recognising it&#8217;s an issue. Constructive encouragement. Education (eating).</p>
<p>get this info into schools to kids. Start there. They&#8217;ll go home and hopefully shopping habits change from mum and dad. Maybe the kids do some weights and start running. Maybe dad takes them surfing.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a holistic thing. Everyone needs to get involved but ultimately the individual has to want to change, next step is they need to know how to do it, then where to go.<br />
Adults know to go to the gym.<br />
Kids need help.</p>
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		<title>By: Zoe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zoe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2008 09:41:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with only one thing Desipis has said, and that is that there&#039;s no point hiding your opinions from people under the guise of self-evident truth.

Desipis, your contributions here have been both shallow and pompous.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with only one thing Desipis has said, and that is that there&#8217;s no point hiding your opinions from people under the guise of self-evident truth.</p>
<p>Desipis, your contributions here have been both shallow and pompous.</p>
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		<title>By: Fine</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/01/07/a-weighty-problem/comment-page-2/#comment-426330</link>
		<dc:creator>Fine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2008 09:00:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I too remember the ghastliness of PE, so I&#039;m deeply suspicious of compulsory PE. I was one of those short-sighted, un-co kids. Luckily, I went to a school where no-one cared if I hid in the library. 

I got my own back when we there was a horse-riding camp one weekend, because I ws a very experienced horsey girl and I loved it that I coud do something so easily, that the athletic girls couldn&#039;t do at all. My little bit of revenge.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I too remember the ghastliness of PE, so I&#8217;m deeply suspicious of compulsory PE. I was one of those short-sighted, un-co kids. Luckily, I went to a school where no-one cared if I hid in the library. </p>
<p>I got my own back when we there was a horse-riding camp one weekend, because I ws a very experienced horsey girl and I loved it that I coud do something so easily, that the athletic girls couldn&#8217;t do at all. My little bit of revenge.</p>
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		<title>By: Liam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Liam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2008 08:37:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Strictly an interested lurker, wilful. I know my limitations, and if I were to go down the mefi path, my drug of choice---semi-anonymous confrontation---would devour me. 
I reckon the Famous Bowl would go down pretty well in lots of places in Australia, and come up again in a few too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Strictly an interested lurker, wilful. I know my limitations, and if I were to go down the mefi path, my drug of choice&#8212;semi-anonymous confrontation&#8212;would devour me.<br />
I reckon the Famous Bowl would go down pretty well in lots of places in Australia, and come up again in a few too.</p>
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		<title>By: wilful</title>
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		<dc:creator>wilful</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2008 06:40:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Liam, you a regular mefite or a lurker? 

Man that KFC &#039;meal&#039; is hideous. I&#039;d like to think it wouldn&#039;t go down well in Australia, but...

The thing that gets me about obesity is how rapidly it has ballooned as a problem. I just don&#039;t know what is so different between now and 10 years ago, 20 years ago. There are a lot of pet theories, but no compelling evidence for one or the other. 

The social normalisation of fatness is inevitable. A few mixed messages in there,makes it all a bit hard to sort out what we&#039;re supposed to think these days to be PC.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Liam, you a regular mefite or a lurker? </p>
<p>Man that KFC &#8216;meal&#8217; is hideous. I&#8217;d like to think it wouldn&#8217;t go down well in Australia, but&#8230;</p>
<p>The thing that gets me about obesity is how rapidly it has ballooned as a problem. I just don&#8217;t know what is so different between now and 10 years ago, 20 years ago. There are a lot of pet theories, but no compelling evidence for one or the other. </p>
<p>The social normalisation of fatness is inevitable. A few mixed messages in there,makes it all a bit hard to sort out what we&#8217;re supposed to think these days to be PC.</p>
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		<title>By: Pavlov's Cat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pavlov's Cat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2008 06:26:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yep, exactly, JahTeh -- I remember teachers forcing kids over bloody dangerous equipment in a gym with a cement floor. I was reasonably normal-sized and a good tennis player and swimmer at school (&lt;em&gt;loathed&lt;/em&gt; team sports and gym), but my best mate was a bit of a fatty boombah and some of the things the PE teacher used to force her to do were just cruel. The kids who were asthmatic, short-sighted or a bit unco were humiliated as well. Thank dog it was an all-girl school, at least. 

I think the problem is that it&#039;s gung-ho types with athletic genes they take for granted who become PE teachers in the first place. They moralise exercise and fitness and they don&#039;t know or care that some kids just aren&#039;t like that, so compulsory PE as taught at school is miserable torture for a fair proportion of the kids.

Liam, the beige glop is inspiring in a negative sort of way. Scuse me while I whip up a bowl of brightly coloured raw veg for dinner.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yep, exactly, JahTeh &#8212; I remember teachers forcing kids over bloody dangerous equipment in a gym with a cement floor. I was reasonably normal-sized and a good tennis player and swimmer at school (<em>loathed</em> team sports and gym), but my best mate was a bit of a fatty boombah and some of the things the PE teacher used to force her to do were just cruel. The kids who were asthmatic, short-sighted or a bit unco were humiliated as well. Thank dog it was an all-girl school, at least. </p>
<p>I think the problem is that it&#8217;s gung-ho types with athletic genes they take for granted who become PE teachers in the first place. They moralise exercise and fitness and they don&#8217;t know or care that some kids just aren&#8217;t like that, so compulsory PE as taught at school is miserable torture for a fair proportion of the kids.</p>
<p>Liam, the beige glop is inspiring in a negative sort of way. Scuse me while I whip up a bowl of brightly coloured raw veg for dinner.</p>
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		<title>By: JahTeh</title>
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		<dc:creator>JahTeh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2008 06:09:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PC, I well remember the sadistic PE teacher I had. She almost broke my neck on the vaulting horse and didn&#039;t worry when I fell from the uneven bars. I was hopeless at sport, hated gymnastics and couldn&#039;t run to catch a bus but I walked 3 miles home from High School nearly every day, carrying an enormous bag on one shoulder but that didn&#039;t make me lose weight.

When I was married I rode a bicycle for 20 years, that didn&#039;t lose me any weight either.

I&#039;ve also been thinking about willpower which skinny people say you should apply to lose weight but I&#039;ll turn it around. If I had had the willpower to face up to the problems I had in the first place, I wouldn&#039;t have turned to the drug of my choice, food.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PC, I well remember the sadistic PE teacher I had. She almost broke my neck on the vaulting horse and didn&#8217;t worry when I fell from the uneven bars. I was hopeless at sport, hated gymnastics and couldn&#8217;t run to catch a bus but I walked 3 miles home from High School nearly every day, carrying an enormous bag on one shoulder but that didn&#8217;t make me lose weight.</p>
<p>When I was married I rode a bicycle for 20 years, that didn&#8217;t lose me any weight either.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve also been thinking about willpower which skinny people say you should apply to lose weight but I&#8217;ll turn it around. If I had had the willpower to face up to the problems I had in the first place, I wouldn&#8217;t have turned to the drug of my choice, food.</p>
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		<title>By: Mindy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mindy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2008 05:07:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OMG. That looks revolting. Eeerghghhgh.</description>
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		<title>By: Liam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Liam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2008 04:39:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think that this discussion can be moved forward without reference to the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.avclub.com/content/feature/a_v_club_taste_test_special_the&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;failure pile in a sadness bowl&lt;/a&gt; (via metafilter).
&lt;blockquote&gt;...they were offering a new product for kids—&quot;fun meals&quot; that came in colorful cardboard containers that opened like laptop computers. A generation of children are growing up associating computer use with fun, grease, and food. I will flee to the mountains before I see how porn gets folded into that equation.&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think that this discussion can be moved forward without reference to the <a href="http://www.avclub.com/content/feature/a_v_club_taste_test_special_the" rel="nofollow">failure pile in a sadness bowl</a> (via metafilter).</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8230;they were offering a new product for kids—&#8221;fun meals&#8221; that came in colorful cardboard containers that opened like laptop computers. A generation of children are growing up associating computer use with fun, grease, and food. I will flee to the mountains before I see how porn gets folded into that equation.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: Pavlov's Cat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pavlov's Cat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2008 03:45:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;You do know if you are fat or not though - right?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Wrong. &quot;Fatness&quot; exists along a spectrum, not on one side of a boundary.

Anorexia and other body-dysmorphic states are precisely about &lt;em&gt;not&lt;/em&gt; knowing whether you&#039;re &quot;fat&quot; or not. It&#039;s also incredibly common for pregnant women to perceive themselves, and other people to perceive them, as &quot;fat&quot;. Part of the whole problem in the contemporary Western weight thing is that women in particular have lost all clear sense of what constitutes &quot;fat&quot;. And those who are slaves to projected ideals are prone to judge themselves or someone else &quot;fat&quot; by totally unrealistic standards.

All that said, I couldn&#039;t agree more about the exercise. Fine at #74 has the right idea -- I know someone who got a dog and lost 12 kilos in 3 months without changing her diet at all. 

But remembering the appalling torture that was inflicted on fat kids when I was at school by sadistic and mostly very stupid PE teachers, plus by the more cruelty-prone of the other kids, this needs to be addressed as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>You do know if you are fat or not though &#8211; right?</p></blockquote>
<p>Wrong. &#8220;Fatness&#8221; exists along a spectrum, not on one side of a boundary.</p>
<p>Anorexia and other body-dysmorphic states are precisely about <em>not</em> knowing whether you&#8217;re &#8220;fat&#8221; or not. It&#8217;s also incredibly common for pregnant women to perceive themselves, and other people to perceive them, as &#8220;fat&#8221;. Part of the whole problem in the contemporary Western weight thing is that women in particular have lost all clear sense of what constitutes &#8220;fat&#8221;. And those who are slaves to projected ideals are prone to judge themselves or someone else &#8220;fat&#8221; by totally unrealistic standards.</p>
<p>All that said, I couldn&#8217;t agree more about the exercise. Fine at #74 has the right idea &#8212; I know someone who got a dog and lost 12 kilos in 3 months without changing her diet at all. </p>
<p>But remembering the appalling torture that was inflicted on fat kids when I was at school by sadistic and mostly very stupid PE teachers, plus by the more cruelty-prone of the other kids, this needs to be addressed as well.</p>
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		<title>By: Fine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2008 03:29:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>True, Andrew. I know whether I&#039;m fat or not. I wonder if kids do? However, to go back ot the first premise of the thread, I don&#039;t think weighing kids is a great idea. People need to make changes to how they live. The question is; how do you get kids to do that?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>True, Andrew. I know whether I&#8217;m fat or not. I wonder if kids do? However, to go back ot the first premise of the thread, I don&#8217;t think weighing kids is a great idea. People need to make changes to how they live. The question is; how do you get kids to do that?</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Reynolds</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew Reynolds</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2008 03:16:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fine,
You do know if you are fat or not though - right? So do the kids and anyone looking at them. An hour&#039;s exercise a day would probably do us all a world of good.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fine,<br />
You do know if you are fat or not though &#8211; right? So do the kids and anyone looking at them. An hour&#8217;s exercise a day would probably do us all a world of good.</p>
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		<title>By: Fine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2008 00:35:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Despipis, you&#039;re probably right and I&#039;d rather eat pizza than a salad any day. There is something about the &#039;mouth feel&#039; of fat. Another thing is that if I want takeaways I can afford to go to a good Asian takeaway place. If you&#039;re poor then you go to Maccas or KFC. 

JahTeh, I don&#039;t know my weight. It&#039;s been years since I&#039;ve weighed my self.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Despipis, you&#8217;re probably right and I&#8217;d rather eat pizza than a salad any day. There is something about the &#8216;mouth feel&#8217; of fat. Another thing is that if I want takeaways I can afford to go to a good Asian takeaway place. If you&#8217;re poor then you go to Maccas or KFC. </p>
<p>JahTeh, I don&#8217;t know my weight. It&#8217;s been years since I&#8217;ve weighed my self.</p>
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		<title>By: genevieve</title>
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		<dc:creator>genevieve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2008 23:13:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And with regard to kids - there is definitely a computer connection. We didn&#039;t have the Internet till mine were in their mid-teens - no love handles on my young &#039;uns like the kids I see in the gym now. 

 I am seeing more and more obviously unexercised kids in shopping centres all the time. ALL the time, and it scares me. Doesn&#039;t make me run to the gym any faster with my autistic 23 yr old son, though, who does have quite a tummy, but needs a running partner.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And with regard to kids &#8211; there is definitely a computer connection. We didn&#8217;t have the Internet till mine were in their mid-teens &#8211; no love handles on my young &#8216;uns like the kids I see in the gym now. </p>
<p> I am seeing more and more obviously unexercised kids in shopping centres all the time. ALL the time, and it scares me. Doesn&#8217;t make me run to the gym any faster with my autistic 23 yr old son, though, who does have quite a tummy, but needs a running partner.</p>
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		<title>By: genevieve</title>
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		<dc:creator>genevieve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2008 23:06:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JahTeh, good on you for putting up the numbers and for resuming the fight - I have a mother and aunt in the same boat and have watched their struggle for many years, with concern and sympathy. 
Having the same build as aunt and mother, I joined a gym four years ago - I&#039;m 73 kg at present, have only lost four in as many years, and have almost put them back on just over Christmas through drinking and the eats that go with. The weight is definitely related to alcohol and fats as well as body type - when Oprah says she is hanging out for a black tea with a slice of lemon, I know exactly what she&#039;s talking about. The emotional pull of food is enormous. I stand in front of the cupboard talking to myself sometimes and rattling around for biscuits.
PC, I will go read that post now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JahTeh, good on you for putting up the numbers and for resuming the fight &#8211; I have a mother and aunt in the same boat and have watched their struggle for many years, with concern and sympathy.<br />
Having the same build as aunt and mother, I joined a gym four years ago &#8211; I&#8217;m 73 kg at present, have only lost four in as many years, and have almost put them back on just over Christmas through drinking and the eats that go with. The weight is definitely related to alcohol and fats as well as body type &#8211; when Oprah says she is hanging out for a black tea with a slice of lemon, I know exactly what she&#8217;s talking about. The emotional pull of food is enormous. I stand in front of the cupboard talking to myself sometimes and rattling around for biscuits.<br />
PC, I will go read that post now.</p>
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		<title>By: JahTeh</title>
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		<dc:creator>JahTeh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2008 10:44:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well so many comments but none with their weight put up in bright lights.  I&#039;ll start, I&#039;m currently 132.5kgs. I was 148kgs 7 years ago then lost 20kgs put back 10kgs and now am on the way to losing that.  The 10kgs went on through stress eating. I don&#039;t drink, don&#039;t smoke, vegetarian and walk 3kms two or three times a week. 

The 148kgs wasn&#039;t due to any illness, just a period of extreme sadness and unhappiness which is behind me but the addiction to food isn&#039;t and never will be.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well so many comments but none with their weight put up in bright lights.  I&#8217;ll start, I&#8217;m currently 132.5kgs. I was 148kgs 7 years ago then lost 20kgs put back 10kgs and now am on the way to losing that.  The 10kgs went on through stress eating. I don&#8217;t drink, don&#8217;t smoke, vegetarian and walk 3kms two or three times a week. </p>
<p>The 148kgs wasn&#8217;t due to any illness, just a period of extreme sadness and unhappiness which is behind me but the addiction to food isn&#8217;t and never will be.</p>
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		<title>By: Desipis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Desipis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2008 06:54:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;Fine&lt;/b&gt;: I wonder if there&#039;s more to the cultural aspects that you list. I&#039;ve noticed a trend in associating &#039;good times&#039; with &#039;bad food&#039;. For a birthday you eat cake, after work it&#039;s pizza and beer, having a party you eat chips and lollies and chocolates, etc. I not only think it&#039;s an issue given the frequency of &#039;good times&#039; we have but I also think it leads to an association between the two, and hence leads people to eat &#039;bad food&#039; in pursuit of &#039;good times&#039;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Fine</b>: I wonder if there&#8217;s more to the cultural aspects that you list. I&#8217;ve noticed a trend in associating &#8216;good times&#8217; with &#8216;bad food&#8217;. For a birthday you eat cake, after work it&#8217;s pizza and beer, having a party you eat chips and lollies and chocolates, etc. I not only think it&#8217;s an issue given the frequency of &#8216;good times&#8217; we have but I also think it leads to an association between the two, and hence leads people to eat &#8216;bad food&#8217; in pursuit of &#8216;good times&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: Fine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2008 02:17:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting post, Pavlov&#039;s Cat. I think the ubiquity of food has something to do with it. You&#039;re waiting for a train, you&#039;re bored, eat a packet of Twisties. Put this together with an increase in serving size and less movement and you have a recipe for the slow but inexorable piling on of the kilos. I&#039;m sure some of us have experienced this. 

For most people, eating too much is simply about too much of the wrong food and too little exercise. I suspect the invocation of obscure diseases as the reason is a load of tosh, in most cases.

But I still think the cure is complex. We live in a culture that means a lot of sit on our collective arses all day and fatty food is cheap and luscious. What to do, except to be mindful and slowly change our habits. I&#039;m not invoking &#039;willpower&#039; here,  but change, which is often difficult. What helped me lose weight is getting a dog, who needs to be exercised. Hence, I exercise. It&#039;s made a big differerence and one I barely noticed at first.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting post, Pavlov&#8217;s Cat. I think the ubiquity of food has something to do with it. You&#8217;re waiting for a train, you&#8217;re bored, eat a packet of Twisties. Put this together with an increase in serving size and less movement and you have a recipe for the slow but inexorable piling on of the kilos. I&#8217;m sure some of us have experienced this. </p>
<p>For most people, eating too much is simply about too much of the wrong food and too little exercise. I suspect the invocation of obscure diseases as the reason is a load of tosh, in most cases.</p>
<p>But I still think the cure is complex. We live in a culture that means a lot of sit on our collective arses all day and fatty food is cheap and luscious. What to do, except to be mindful and slowly change our habits. I&#8217;m not invoking &#8216;willpower&#8217; here,  but change, which is often difficult. What helped me lose weight is getting a dog, who needs to be exercised. Hence, I exercise. It&#8217;s made a big differerence and one I barely noticed at first.</p>
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		<title>By: su</title>
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		<dc:creator>su</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2008 01:47:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Radio National&#039;s Health report had an episode on obesity where one researcher pointed the finger at added sucrose and fructose in prepackaged foods leading to insulin resistance etc.  I think this is a serious consideration despite its association with Atkins.  Almost the same week however there was a programme which pointed out that in the US, the average weight gain has only amounted to a couple of kilos overall and mostly that increase occurred in already overweight and obese adults, not children.  And I&#039;m pretty sure I&#039;ve heard studies that say that australian children are not in fact exercising less than 30 years ago, although perhaps they are &lt;i&gt;moving&lt;/i&gt; less when they are not playing sport or exercising. They also pointed out that lowering the BMI limit for overweight created millions of &#039;overweight&#039; people overnight.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Radio National&#8217;s Health report had an episode on obesity where one researcher pointed the finger at added sucrose and fructose in prepackaged foods leading to insulin resistance etc.  I think this is a serious consideration despite its association with Atkins.  Almost the same week however there was a programme which pointed out that in the US, the average weight gain has only amounted to a couple of kilos overall and mostly that increase occurred in already overweight and obese adults, not children.  And I&#8217;m pretty sure I&#8217;ve heard studies that say that australian children are not in fact exercising less than 30 years ago, although perhaps they are <i>moving</i> less when they are not playing sport or exercising. They also pointed out that lowering the BMI limit for overweight created millions of &#8216;overweight&#8217; people overnight.</p>
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		<title>By: Nabakov</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nabakov</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2008 01:36:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Spare us the nostalgia trip Nabakov. Most kids grow up in cities and don’t have your elegaic Tom Sawyer swimming hole, yabbie spot, loaded dog or handy hobie location.&quot;

Didn&#039;t read through to the punchline did you? I was parodying the kinda nostaglia trip you were accusing me of.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Spare us the nostalgia trip Nabakov. Most kids grow up in cities and don’t have your elegaic Tom Sawyer swimming hole, yabbie spot, loaded dog or handy hobie location.&#8221;</p>
<p>Didn&#8217;t read through to the punchline did you? I was parodying the kinda nostaglia trip you were accusing me of.</p>
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