On topic would be welcome on this thread.

We try, despite the sidelined bout between Celebrity Watch and the Mars-Venus Nostalgic

I got the idea that males weren’t welcome on this thread.

On topic would be welcome on this thread.

Precious little so far, unfortunately.

Sorcerer, I would’ve responded to your well thought out comment but I got the idea that males weren’t welcome on this thread. Funny thing that.

Oh stick around. You set them up, I’ll knock them down.

Look it up, DavidG. It’ll take you all of five minutes to find out all you’ll ever need to know about the man.

Or all you’d want to know. Gray’s into interspecies sex so much he wants to portray women as a different (inferior?) gender. He should have stuck to his trusty right hand.

Sorcerer, I would’ve responded to your well thought out comment but I got the idea that males weren’t welcome on this thread. Funny thing that.

Probably biological, even instinctive! Cheers.

My apologies for the mistaken identity. In which case my admonition to ‘leave Darlene alone’ is even more vigorous as Darlene Rocks, like HEAPS!

Darlene and Anna, could it not be possible that Nic, who has passed the 40 mark - hasn’t she? has just experienced the lengthening of sight that is a natural part of passing 40.

Happens to millions…men as well as women. Ah well, she can afford a pedigree seeing-eye dog with a Faberge collar and a platinum covered white stick.

Nicole (who has made some great films and is an intelligent woman) probably wears glasses to read

So do I and millions of others…it’s not worth a blog post or even part of one. I would be more “whelmed” if she grew a third eye in the middle of her forehead. Now that would be interesting.

Of course she’s intelligent. She has smart parents so genetically that would be right on the money. If she were thick she was probably dropped as a baby or left on the doorstep.

Jeez sisters, get over it. Makes me want a sex change, all this blethering…

Oh, and speaking of feminists, Germaine is coming again soon

Ooooh she’ll love that

http://www.readings.com.au/event/an-evening-with-germaine-greer

Surely the myriad types of violence deserve different responses?

Thanks for that IWD info.

Yes, it’s all true, Helen. Nicole (who has made some great films and is an intelligent woman) probably wears glasses to read. Wish I’d never made that gag. I have apologised for it. Wish I’d made the one about two feminists walking into a bar instead Just joking.

Heard Nicole being interviewed on Radio National the other night and she was good value. Realised that I’ve swallowed the b/s women’s mags lines about her.

Oh, and I turned the big 40 last year.

Oh, FFS, can we not have the whole evpsych debate here That’s a whole other topic. DavidG, your comment is just a shorter John Gray, that’s all I’ll say.

Darlene and Anna, could it not be possible that Nic, who has passed the 40 mark - hasn’t she? has just experienced the lengthening of sight that is a natural part of passing 40. If you’re speaking about something to do with NGOs or serious issues you might be more likely to be referring to notes. Was she? Were the glasses reading glasses? I’m not trying to diss you here, I think you’re not aware yet of the age related issue (and lucky you!)

Like the male commentator on my site who, discussing the miseries of Melbourne public transport, just could. not. understand why a young woman (not drunk or otherwise under the influence) might throw up on him at 8 am!

Biology is not destiny, but it does explain some things!

I suppose it’s because I think men have more an instinctual urge towards such things, in common with males of many species. Surely women, being biological mothers, have more a nurturing instinct.

Your comment does both women and men a disservice by limiting them to what you perceive is their biology. So according to your theory, men would be incapable of nurturing children, so would be precluded from the important tasks of fatherhood, and women would be incapable of a protective role. And women who were childless by choice, circumstance or age would be off in some politico-cultural limbo.

As far as we can gather from evidence from prehistory, the role of prehistoric ancestral males, as well as fathering offspring, was to protect the vulnerable. The vulnerable were infants and pregnant or nursing mothers. Not necessarily women in general.

The average life expectancy of humans around 10,000 years ago was probably around 30 years of age. Disease, natural disasters, climate conditions, inter-group conflict and predators would have carried off large numbers of people from time to time. Many females would probably have died in childbirth or shortly after, since the human female is, unlike other mammals, not all that physiologically well-equipped to birth large-headed human babies.

For the most part, surviving females then would have either been pregnant or nursing infants from puberty up until they ceased menstruation, or died from natural causes. So some rough maths suggests that a girl having her first baby at 12 or 13, nursing it for three years and then giving birth to three more offspring would be well into her 20s and almost at the limit of her statistical lifespan.

Since hunter-gatherers cannot afford to carry passengers, it is quite likely that the females who did survive their child-bearing years, or who had not given birth for whatever reason (hate that pejorative word “barren”) would probably have had the status of group elders, and would have had a role in hunting, gathering and protecting the vulnerable. Which means they would have to have guard against invaders from other tribes as well as animal predators.

Sorcerer, do you think women are as capable of violence and killing as men are?

Yes. Why wouldn’t they be, once you remove all the social conditioning?

I think women should worry about their thighs! I mean, if they are caught up in a war they best be as fit as possible in case they have to run.

Heavy handed humour Mr G?

I would hope women unfortunate enough to be caught up in war would have the means to protect themselves and their children. And controversial as it may seem to some, that may mean turning on their oppressors and fighting back, like the Liberian women soldiers.

A dead or maimed rapist doesn’t rape.

(amongst other things, the research says that attitudes tolerant of VAW are most closely associated with :
(i) being male &
(ii)weak support for gender equity
….both rampant in the NSW police force - how ironic is that)