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	<title>Comments on: The Right&#8217;s ragged retreat</title>
	<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/02/27/the-rights-ragged-retreat/</link>
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		<title>By: Adrien</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/02/27/the-rights-ragged-retreat/#comment-443473</link>
		<dc:creator>Adrien</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Feb 2008 04:25:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm not interested in continuing the point above but would like those who blame me for the aside into the territory of ideological hairsplitting to have a look at my comment at #33. Is this comment designed to start a fight? Well perhaps some think so, but that wasn't my intention.

&lt;blockquote&gt;But there is value, in a commercial sense. The likes of Albrechtsen, Bolt, Akerman, the late McGuinness, etc., cater to deeply loyal audiences who prefer not to have their prejudices challenged, and who have money to spend on newspapers.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Absolutely. This is one of the most profitable avenues for a writer, particularly an American writer, the composition of partisan tomes. It's associated with that other phenomena: the professional controversialist. 
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The technique is simple. You write (or broadcast) something that makes no bones about being partisan. You deliberately compose it in such a way that it appeals to the basest elements of your own side and thus offends the opposition. 
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Andrew Bolt, as a blogger, is quite brilliant at this. His skill is that, to those who agree with him, he seems reasonable. He is in fact a lot more sophisticated than Alan Jones. But a cursory look at his polemic re. AGW will show that he's a propagandist. His take on global warming is similar to Ann Coulter's 'critique' of the theory of evolution in &lt;i&gt;Godless&lt;/i&gt;. 
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She scans the theory, finds the gaps of evidence in them and exaggerates them all out of proportion. She also adds out and out lies. One would think that this would be completely innefective but it isn't. She's speaking to the religious Right who are already quite willing to ignore evidence in favour of doctrinal proscription. It's less a debate she's invoking and more of a cheerleading competition. It's political debate as a team sport (not something the Right have a monopoly on). 
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This is designed to curdle the blood of 'liberals' :).
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About a year ago Bolt posted three articles on Pinochet designed to do just that. Meticulously crafted to precipitate a hail of irrational invective. It worked very well. Besides the obligatory historical revisionism, the point was to make 'lefties' look like rabid dogs. Generally he succeeded. 
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Incidentally Michael Moore is basically doing the exact same thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not interested in continuing the point above but would like those who blame me for the aside into the territory of ideological hairsplitting to have a look at my comment at #33. Is this comment designed to start a fight? Well perhaps some think so, but that wasn&#8217;t my intention.</p>
<blockquote><p>But there is value, in a commercial sense. The likes of Albrechtsen, Bolt, Akerman, the late McGuinness, etc., cater to deeply loyal audiences who prefer not to have their prejudices challenged, and who have money to spend on newspapers.</p></blockquote>
<p>Absolutely. This is one of the most profitable avenues for a writer, particularly an American writer, the composition of partisan tomes. It&#8217;s associated with that other phenomena: the professional controversialist.<br />
&gt;<br />
The technique is simple. You write (or broadcast) something that makes no bones about being partisan. You deliberately compose it in such a way that it appeals to the basest elements of your own side and thus offends the opposition.<br />
&gt;<br />
Andrew Bolt, as a blogger, is quite brilliant at this. His skill is that, to those who agree with him, he seems reasonable. He is in fact a lot more sophisticated than Alan Jones. But a cursory look at his polemic re. AGW will show that he&#8217;s a propagandist. His take on global warming is similar to Ann Coulter&#8217;s &#8216;critique&#8217; of the theory of evolution in <i>Godless</i>.<br />
&gt;<br />
She scans the theory, finds the gaps of evidence in them and exaggerates them all out of proportion. She also adds out and out lies. One would think that this would be completely innefective but it isn&#8217;t. She&#8217;s speaking to the religious Right who are already quite willing to ignore evidence in favour of doctrinal proscription. It&#8217;s less a debate she&#8217;s invoking and more of a cheerleading competition. It&#8217;s political debate as a team sport (not something the Right have a monopoly on).<br />
&gt;<br />
This is designed to curdle the blood of &#8216;liberals&#8217; :).<br />
&gt;<br />
About a year ago Bolt posted three articles on Pinochet designed to do just that. Meticulously crafted to precipitate a hail of irrational invective. It worked very well. Besides the obligatory historical revisionism, the point was to make &#8216;lefties&#8217; look like rabid dogs. Generally he succeeded.<br />
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Incidentally Michael Moore is basically doing the exact same thing.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/02/27/the-rights-ragged-retreat/#comment-443449</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Feb 2008 02:36:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not just a Rhodes Scholar, Dr Cat, but also still the holder of the world record for downing a yard of beer AND a member of the Club of Rome. Truly, a Rennaissance Man!

I would have loved to have seen him take Buckley apart, btw.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not just a Rhodes Scholar, Dr Cat, but also still the holder of the world record for downing a yard of beer AND a member of the Club of Rome. Truly, a Rennaissance Man!</p>
<p>I would have loved to have seen him take Buckley apart, btw.</p>
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		<title>By: Ambigulous</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/02/27/the-rights-ragged-retreat/#comment-443448</link>
		<dc:creator>Ambigulous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Feb 2008 02:36:29 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/02/27/the-rights-ragged-retreat/#comment-443448</guid>
		<description>Adrian @ [136]: yes you're right cobber.
Pavlov's @ [141]: Hawkie's adoption (mimicking?) of a very broad Aussie accent had him pigeonholed as an Ocker populist. He'd have to thank himself for some of the misunderstanding.... a man with a very carefully crafted public image. But clever too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Adrian @ [136]: yes you&#8217;re right cobber.<br />
Pavlov&#8217;s @ [141]: Hawkie&#8217;s adoption (mimicking?) of a very broad Aussie accent had him pigeonholed as an Ocker populist. He&#8217;d have to thank himself for some of the misunderstanding&#8230;. a man with a very carefully crafted public image. But clever too.</p>
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		<title>By: Katz</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/02/27/the-rights-ragged-retreat/#comment-443443</link>
		<dc:creator>Katz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Feb 2008 02:16:29 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/02/27/the-rights-ragged-retreat/#comment-443443</guid>
		<description>That's the one Klaus K.

It was a Rumble in the Jungle.

(Funny, I was under the impression that the interview took place in the US.)

(Imagine having access to that fine detail level of information. Aren't the intertubes remarkable?)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s the one Klaus K.</p>
<p>It was a Rumble in the Jungle.</p>
<p>(Funny, I was under the impression that the interview took place in the US.)</p>
<p>(Imagine having access to that fine detail level of information. Aren&#8217;t the intertubes remarkable?)</p>
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		<title>By: Bingo Bango Boingo</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/02/27/the-rights-ragged-retreat/#comment-443441</link>
		<dc:creator>Bingo Bango Boingo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Feb 2008 02:00:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"One sample, on whether generous union settlements and rises in the minimum wage hurt the workers at the lowest end of the scale: RH: "No, I don‘t think it‘s true in America, and it‘s certainly not true in this country. It‘s a nonsense theory as far as Australia is concerned. ... Because under the way in which our arbitration system operates, when the trade- union movement goes in and conducts cases to improve wages or working conditions, the results don‘t flow simply to members of trade unions. They go to all people who are employed ..."

As long as you make all employees more expensive, and not just trade union members, you will not reduce the number of employed persons (ie. at the margins where the low-skilled workers are).  Is that the intellectual force you're talking about Katz?  It's difficult to envisage a more facile comment.  Hawke was so much better than that extract suggests.  Still looking for the entire transcript.

BBB</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;One sample, on whether generous union settlements and rises in the minimum wage hurt the workers at the lowest end of the scale: RH: &#8220;No, I don‘t think it‘s true in America, and it‘s certainly not true in this country. It‘s a nonsense theory as far as Australia is concerned. &#8230; Because under the way in which our arbitration system operates, when the trade- union movement goes in and conducts cases to improve wages or working conditions, the results don‘t flow simply to members of trade unions. They go to all people who are employed &#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>As long as you make all employees more expensive, and not just trade union members, you will not reduce the number of employed persons (ie. at the margins where the low-skilled workers are).  Is that the intellectual force you&#8217;re talking about Katz?  It&#8217;s difficult to envisage a more facile comment.  Hawke was so much better than that extract suggests.  Still looking for the entire transcript.</p>
<p>BBB</p>
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		<title>By: Klaus K</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/02/27/the-rights-ragged-retreat/#comment-443439</link>
		<dc:creator>Klaus K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Feb 2008 01:51:37 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/02/27/the-rights-ragged-retreat/#comment-443439</guid>
		<description>I'm assuming this is the conversation you're referring to, Katz:

http://hoohila.stanford.edu/firingline/programView.php?programID=780

I can't seem to get a transcript, but I don't have much time to dig for one just now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m assuming this is the conversation you&#8217;re referring to, Katz:</p>
<p><a href="http://hoohila.stanford.edu/firingline/programView.php?programID=780" rel="nofollow">http://hoohila.stanford.edu/firingline/programView.php?programID=780</a></p>
<p>I can&#8217;t seem to get a transcript, but I don&#8217;t have much time to dig for one just now.</p>
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		<title>By: sorcerer</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/02/27/the-rights-ragged-retreat/#comment-443429</link>
		<dc:creator>sorcerer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Feb 2008 01:21:08 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/02/27/the-rights-ragged-retreat/#comment-443429</guid>
		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt; I think all sorts of people tended to forget, if they ever knew, that Hawke was a Rhodes Scholar.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Americans get quite disappointed when they find out not only do they only have about 10 cities larger than ours, but that we can also produce world-class intellectual and cultural figures as opposed to cuddly fauna, swimmers and professional Ockers like Hogan and Irwin.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p> I think all sorts of people tended to forget, if they ever knew, that Hawke was a Rhodes Scholar.</p></blockquote>
<p>Americans get quite disappointed when they find out not only do they only have about 10 cities larger than ours, but that we can also produce world-class intellectual and cultural figures as opposed to cuddly fauna, swimmers and professional Ockers like Hogan and Irwin.</p>
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		<title>By: Amanda</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/02/27/the-rights-ragged-retreat/#comment-443428</link>
		<dc:creator>Amanda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Feb 2008 01:20:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"I think between us, Bill Clinton and I have settled any lingering myths about the brilliance of Rhodes scholars." 
-- Kris Kristofferson  ;-)

I would love to see the Hawkey pwnin. Who's got a copy?  This is what YouTube was invented for.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I think between us, Bill Clinton and I have settled any lingering myths about the brilliance of Rhodes scholars.&#8221;<br />
&#8211; Kris Kristofferson  <img src='http://larvatusprodeo.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
I would love to see the Hawkey pwnin. Who&#8217;s got a copy?  This is what YouTube was invented for.</p>
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		<title>By: Pavlov's Cat</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/02/27/the-rights-ragged-retreat/#comment-443426</link>
		<dc:creator>Pavlov's Cat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Feb 2008 01:07:40 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/02/27/the-rights-ragged-retreat/#comment-443426</guid>
		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;It was a bravura performance by Hawke, liberated from his ocker persona, speaking to an educated and foreign audience.

Buckley was quite taken aback by the sheer intellectual force of Hawke.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I think all sorts of people tended to forget, if they ever knew, that Hawke was a Rhodes Scholar.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>It was a bravura performance by Hawke, liberated from his ocker persona, speaking to an educated and foreign audience.</p>
<p>Buckley was quite taken aback by the sheer intellectual force of Hawke.</p></blockquote>
<p>I think all sorts of people tended to forget, if they ever knew, that Hawke was a Rhodes Scholar.</p>
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		<title>By: Katz</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/02/27/the-rights-ragged-retreat/#comment-443424</link>
		<dc:creator>Katz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Feb 2008 01:03:38 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/02/27/the-rights-ragged-retreat/#comment-443424</guid>
		<description>I witnessed Bob Hawke in his pre-Silver Bodgie days, dismantle William Buckley on his own PBS program.

It was a bravura performance by Hawke, liberated from his ocker persona, speaking to an educated and foreign audience.

Buckley was quite taken aback by the sheer intellectual force of Hawke.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I witnessed Bob Hawke in his pre-Silver Bodgie days, dismantle William Buckley on his own PBS program.</p>
<p>It was a bravura performance by Hawke, liberated from his ocker persona, speaking to an educated and foreign audience.</p>
<p>Buckley was quite taken aback by the sheer intellectual force of Hawke.</p>
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		<title>By: sorcerer</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/02/27/the-rights-ragged-retreat/#comment-443420</link>
		<dc:creator>sorcerer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Feb 2008 00:38:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/02/27/the-rights-ragged-retreat/#comment-443420</guid>
		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt; I have in mind the late middle-aged, traditional middle-class/small businessy-looking little man ahead of me in the queue at the local newsagent one day, who had purchased the Brisbane Courier-Mail and the Sydney Daily Telegraph and the Gold Coast Bulletin, and who insisted on being given a plastic bag to take them home in.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

The Wollstonecraft Hermit?

Meanwhile in other news:
 &lt;a href="http://www.smh.com.au/news/obituaries/pride-prejudice-and-intellect-conservatively-speaking/2008/02/28/1203788534146.html" rel="nofollow"&gt; William Buckley dies&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;i&gt;If all else fails
The Grim Reaper prevails&lt;/i&gt;

"Conservative intellectual"...an oxymoron?...discuss.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p> I have in mind the late middle-aged, traditional middle-class/small businessy-looking little man ahead of me in the queue at the local newsagent one day, who had purchased the Brisbane Courier-Mail and the Sydney Daily Telegraph and the Gold Coast Bulletin, and who insisted on being given a plastic bag to take them home in.</p></blockquote>
<p>The Wollstonecraft Hermit?</p>
<p>Meanwhile in other news:<br />
 <a href="http://www.smh.com.au/news/obituaries/pride-prejudice-and-intellect-conservatively-speaking/2008/02/28/1203788534146.html" rel="nofollow"> William Buckley dies</a></p>
<p><i>If all else fails<br />
The Grim Reaper prevails</i></p>
<p>&#8220;Conservative intellectual&#8221;&#8230;an oxymoron?&#8230;discuss.</p>
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		<title>By: adrian</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/02/27/the-rights-ragged-retreat/#comment-443419</link>
		<dc:creator>adrian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Feb 2008 00:37:29 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/02/27/the-rights-ragged-retreat/#comment-443419</guid>
		<description>I don't think that there's value, even in a commercial sense becauses it diminishes the value of the brand publishing regular commentators who are clearly a sandwich short of a picnic. And now outside the loop. Lunacy is OK if you've got the ears of the chief lunatic. It just seems tired and irrelevant when everyone else has moved on, even members of the former lunatic in chief's party.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think that there&#8217;s value, even in a commercial sense becauses it diminishes the value of the brand publishing regular commentators who are clearly a sandwich short of a picnic. And now outside the loop. Lunacy is OK if you&#8217;ve got the ears of the chief lunatic. It just seems tired and irrelevant when everyone else has moved on, even members of the former lunatic in chief&#8217;s party.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Norton</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/02/27/the-rights-ragged-retreat/#comment-443417</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Norton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Feb 2008 00:21:53 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/02/27/the-rights-ragged-retreat/#comment-443417</guid>
		<description>

&lt;blockquote&gt;One day even the editors of The Australian are going to realise that there is no value in obsessive and tedious bile, masquerading as journalism.&lt;/blockquote&gt;



But there &lt;em&gt;is &lt;/em&gt;value, in a commercial sense.  The likes of Albrechtsen, Bolt, Akerman, the late McGuinness, etc., cater to deeply loyal audiences who prefer not to have their prejudices challenged, and who have money to spend on newspapers.  I have in mind the late middle-aged, traditional middle-class/small businessy-looking little man ahead of me in the queue at the local newsagent one day, who had purchased the Brisbane &lt;em&gt;Courier-Mail &lt;/em&gt;&lt;strong&gt;and&lt;/strong&gt; the Sydney &lt;em&gt;Daily Telegraph &lt;/em&gt;&lt;strong&gt;and&lt;/strong&gt; the &lt;em&gt;Gold Coast Bulletin&lt;/em&gt;, and who insisted on being given a plastic bag to take them home in.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>One day even the editors of The Australian are going to realise that there is no value in obsessive and tedious bile, masquerading as journalism.</p></blockquote>
<p>But there <em>is </em>value, in a commercial sense.  The likes of Albrechtsen, Bolt, Akerman, the late McGuinness, etc., cater to deeply loyal audiences who prefer not to have their prejudices challenged, and who have money to spend on newspapers.  I have in mind the late middle-aged, traditional middle-class/small businessy-looking little man ahead of me in the queue at the local newsagent one day, who had purchased the Brisbane <em>Courier-Mail </em><strong>and</strong> the Sydney <em>Daily Telegraph </em><strong>and</strong> the <em>Gold Coast Bulletin</em>, and who insisted on being given a plastic bag to take them home in.</p>
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		<title>By: adrian</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/02/27/the-rights-ragged-retreat/#comment-443414</link>
		<dc:creator>adrian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Feb 2008 00:02:12 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/02/27/the-rights-ragged-retreat/#comment-443414</guid>
		<description>I think the point is not that Keating is immune from criticism, but the nature of the criticism that is Albrehetsen's stock in trade.

One day even the editors of The Australian are going to realise that there is no value in obsessive and tedious bile, masquerading as journalism.
At which point they'll have to remove the greatest foriegn affairs commentator the world has ever known from their pages as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the point is not that Keating is immune from criticism, but the nature of the criticism that is Albrehetsen&#8217;s stock in trade.</p>
<p>One day even the editors of The Australian are going to realise that there is no value in obsessive and tedious bile, masquerading as journalism.<br />
At which point they&#8217;ll have to remove the greatest foriegn affairs commentator the world has ever known from their pages as well.</p>
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		<title>By: sorcerer</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/02/27/the-rights-ragged-retreat/#comment-443413</link>
		<dc:creator>sorcerer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2008 23:59:27 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/02/27/the-rights-ragged-retreat/#comment-443413</guid>
		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;... falling victim to Godwin’s Law&lt;/blockquote&gt;

"Godwin's Law", as the creator has himself admitted, is merely an experiment in memetics, hence not immutable. 

So Keating is not wrong. He might be drawing a bow somewhat but it ain't all that long. (&lt;i&gt;sorcerer's Law ™&lt;/i&gt;)   ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>&#8230; falling victim to Godwin’s Law</p></blockquote>
<p>&#8220;Godwin&#8217;s Law&#8221;, as the creator has himself admitted, is merely an experiment in memetics, hence not immutable. </p>
<p>So Keating is not wrong. He might be drawing a bow somewhat but it ain&#8217;t all that long. (<i>sorcerer&#8217;s Law ™</i>)   <img src='http://larvatusprodeo.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Pavlov's Cat</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/02/27/the-rights-ragged-retreat/#comment-443412</link>
		<dc:creator>Pavlov's Cat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2008 23:50:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm not sure that falling victim to Godwin's Law towards the end helped his case much, but his account of Albrechten's own elite position is vintage.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not sure that falling victim to Godwin&#8217;s Law towards the end helped his case much, but his account of Albrechten&#8217;s own elite position is vintage.</p>
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		<title>By: FDB</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/02/27/the-rights-ragged-retreat/#comment-443409</link>
		<dc:creator>FDB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2008 23:45:38 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/02/27/the-rights-ragged-retreat/#comment-443409</guid>
		<description>Thanks for that Grace.

Top notch Keating rant.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for that Grace.</p>
<p>Top notch Keating rant.</p>
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		<title>By: Ambigulous</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/02/27/the-rights-ragged-retreat/#comment-443408</link>
		<dc:creator>Ambigulous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2008 23:39:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A fine tirade.... but

A pity PK began by saying he hadn't previously responded to "her provocations". Anyone may comment on the PK government, Paul. That includes Janet. And it includes criticism.

It's not (just) about you, PK.

cheerio</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A fine tirade&#8230;. but</p>
<p>A pity PK began by saying he hadn&#8217;t previously responded to &#8220;her provocations&#8221;. Anyone may comment on the PK government, Paul. That includes Janet. And it includes criticism.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not (just) about you, PK.</p>
<p>cheerio</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Norton</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/02/27/the-rights-ragged-retreat/#comment-443407</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Norton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2008 23:37:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ambigulous, you have obliquely reminded me that over ten years back Robert Manne reviewed a book called Gangland by Mark Davis which argued, amongst other things, that public intellectual life in Australia was dominated by baby boomers and those older still, to the exclusion of younger voices.  Whilst critical of the book on other counts, Manne acknowledged that Davis was right on this score.  A decade on, those public intellectuals who, like Manne, have been up for a while might do well to make some room for some rising stars.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ambigulous, you have obliquely reminded me that over ten years back Robert Manne reviewed a book called Gangland by Mark Davis which argued, amongst other things, that public intellectual life in Australia was dominated by baby boomers and those older still, to the exclusion of younger voices.  Whilst critical of the book on other counts, Manne acknowledged that Davis was right on this score.  A decade on, those public intellectuals who, like Manne, have been up for a while might do well to make some room for some rising stars.</p>
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		<title>By: Fine</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/02/27/the-rights-ragged-retreat/#comment-443406</link>
		<dc:creator>Fine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2008 23:36:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"She is simply a blackguard. And an exceptionally dull one at that."

I miss PJK so much.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;She is simply a blackguard. And an exceptionally dull one at that.&#8221;</p>
<p>I miss PJK so much.</p>
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