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	<title>Comments on: Pineapple Party: first time as tragedy, second time as The Borg</title>
	<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/03/27/pineapple-party-first-time-as-tragedy-second-time-as-the-borg/</link>
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	<pubDate>Sat, 30 Aug 2008 09:52:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Vee</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/03/27/pineapple-party-first-time-as-tragedy-second-time-as-the-borg/#comment-450890</link>
		<dc:creator>Vee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 11:10:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;perceived by voters as “carping”, “whining” and “negative”&lt;/blockquote&gt;

That's how all urban voters perceive non-urban politicians and voters.

The Springborg ad also says at the end that it is authorised by The Nationals so whilst the omission of the brands on the bulk of the ad may have been deliberate, the authorisation of the ad will not go unnoticed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>perceived by voters as “carping”, “whining” and “negative”</p></blockquote>
<p>That&#8217;s how all urban voters perceive non-urban politicians and voters.</p>
<p>The Springborg ad also says at the end that it is authorised by The Nationals so whilst the omission of the brands on the bulk of the ad may have been deliberate, the authorisation of the ad will not go unnoticed.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/03/27/pineapple-party-first-time-as-tragedy-second-time-as-the-borg/#comment-450761</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 05:57:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The SA opposition is hopeless, too. However, with any luck, Downer might resign his Federal seat and stand for a state seat - he'd make a _wonderful_ opposition leader, probably for a very long time ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The SA opposition is hopeless, too. However, with any luck, Downer might resign his Federal seat and stand for a state seat - he&#8217;d make a _wonderful_ opposition leader, probably for a very long time &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Kim</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/03/27/pineapple-party-first-time-as-tragedy-second-time-as-the-borg/#comment-450736</link>
		<dc:creator>Kim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 05:06:34 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/03/27/pineapple-party-first-time-as-tragedy-second-time-as-the-borg/#comment-450736</guid>
		<description>She was acting PM on another occasion too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>She was acting PM on another occasion too.</p>
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		<title>By: gandhi</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/03/27/pineapple-party-first-time-as-tragedy-second-time-as-the-borg/#comment-450719</link>
		<dc:creator>gandhi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 04:47:59 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/03/27/pineapple-party-first-time-as-tragedy-second-time-as-the-borg/#comment-450719</guid>
		<description>Good point, Kim. I forgot about that Bali trip.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good point, Kim. I forgot about that Bali trip.</p>
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		<title>By: Kim</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/03/27/pineapple-party-first-time-as-tragedy-second-time-as-the-borg/#comment-450713</link>
		<dc:creator>Kim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 04:40:37 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/03/27/pineapple-party-first-time-as-tragedy-second-time-as-the-borg/#comment-450713</guid>
		<description>Dunno, Gandhi. Already did the Julia as Acting PM post last year - I tend to think it's better to accept it as par for the course and wholly normal rather than draw attention to it every time as if it's remarkable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dunno, Gandhi. Already did the Julia as Acting PM post last year - I tend to think it&#8217;s better to accept it as par for the course and wholly normal rather than draw attention to it every time as if it&#8217;s remarkable.</p>
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		<title>By: Andos</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/03/27/pineapple-party-first-time-as-tragedy-second-time-as-the-borg/#comment-450712</link>
		<dc:creator>Andos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 04:40:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/03/27/pineapple-party-first-time-as-tragedy-second-time-as-the-borg/#comment-450712</guid>
		<description>Pollytickedoff: the opposition in WA is in horrible shape. Paul Omodei, who shot his own son, was recently deposed by Troy Buswell as leader, a first term MLA who is most famous for "snapping the bra strap" of a Labor staffer at a Christmas party. This prompted several Liberal MPs to quit the party and run as independents.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pollytickedoff: the opposition in WA is in horrible shape. Paul Omodei, who shot his own son, was recently deposed by Troy Buswell as leader, a first term MLA who is most famous for &#8220;snapping the bra strap&#8221; of a Labor staffer at a Christmas party. This prompted several Liberal MPs to quit the party and run as independents.</p>
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		<title>By: gandhi</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/03/27/pineapple-party-first-time-as-tragedy-second-time-as-the-borg/#comment-450686</link>
		<dc:creator>gandhi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 04:11:17 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/03/27/pineapple-party-first-time-as-tragedy-second-time-as-the-borg/#comment-450686</guid>
		<description>&lt;i&gt;Can anyone tell me - is there a decent opposition anywhere in Australia at the moment?&lt;/i&gt;

Well, the Greens still seem to be &lt;a href="http://greens.org.au/media/releases/" rel="nofollow"&gt;doing a good job&lt;/a&gt; but the media still seems to be ignoring them.

By contrast, Nelson is playing the media at every turn, complaining loudly about everything he can think of (whether it makes sense or not). And every time Nelson opens his mouth it gets air-time. 

Speaking of Teh Borg, his mate on the Gold Coast, Tom "Team" Tate, has finally been declared a loser, with the incumbent Ron Clarke retaining the mayorship, which means the Libs got zip, nada, nothing out the local elections here.

Hey, BTW - an intelligent young woman is running the country right now and for the next 3 weeks!!! Worth a post at LP, girls?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Can anyone tell me - is there a decent opposition anywhere in Australia at the moment?</i></p>
<p>Well, the Greens still seem to be <a href="http://greens.org.au/media/releases/" rel="nofollow">doing a good job</a> but the media still seems to be ignoring them.</p>
<p>By contrast, Nelson is playing the media at every turn, complaining loudly about everything he can think of (whether it makes sense or not). And every time Nelson opens his mouth it gets air-time. </p>
<p>Speaking of Teh Borg, his mate on the Gold Coast, Tom &#8220;Team&#8221; Tate, has finally been declared a loser, with the incumbent Ron Clarke retaining the mayorship, which means the Libs got zip, nada, nothing out the local elections here.</p>
<p>Hey, BTW - an intelligent young woman is running the country right now and for the next 3 weeks!!! Worth a post at LP, girls?</p>
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		<title>By: Kim</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/03/27/pineapple-party-first-time-as-tragedy-second-time-as-the-borg/#comment-450685</link>
		<dc:creator>Kim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 04:10:51 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/03/27/pineapple-party-first-time-as-tragedy-second-time-as-the-borg/#comment-450685</guid>
		<description>Is it a personality factor? Brumby less cuddly than Bracks? And the fact that Baillieu isn't a right wing Liberal?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is it a personality factor? Brumby less cuddly than Bracks? And the fact that Baillieu isn&#8217;t a right wing Liberal?</p>
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		<title>By: FDB</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/03/27/pineapple-party-first-time-as-tragedy-second-time-as-the-borg/#comment-450673</link>
		<dc:creator>FDB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 03:59:18 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/03/27/pineapple-party-first-time-as-tragedy-second-time-as-the-borg/#comment-450673</guid>
		<description>Polly - I think the Vic libs are actually doing pretty well. Not that I like it much, but Brumby's doing a fair bit of not-that-popular stuff and they're not sounding too shrill or ridiculous... just biding their time and stacking up the points.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Polly - I think the Vic libs are actually doing pretty well. Not that I like it much, but Brumby&#8217;s doing a fair bit of not-that-popular stuff and they&#8217;re not sounding too shrill or ridiculous&#8230; just biding their time and stacking up the points.</p>
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		<title>By: Kim</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/03/27/pineapple-party-first-time-as-tragedy-second-time-as-the-borg/#comment-450669</link>
		<dc:creator>Kim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 03:48:13 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/03/27/pineapple-party-first-time-as-tragedy-second-time-as-the-borg/#comment-450669</guid>
		<description>Graham Young observed that they hadn't got the springborg.com site up and running yet despite releasing an ad pointing people there. The "under construction" thing has been removed, and there's now a redirect to his old "Conversation with Qld" site:

http://www.conversationwithqueensland.com/

Warning - it tries to trap your browser and disable your back button.

Also all about Lawrence and no party label.

All this suggests haste - probably to get this dishwater out in the public arena to try to bounce the Libs into the UCP this weekend - the Borg's cunning strategy of assimmilation all along.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Graham Young observed that they hadn&#8217;t got the springborg.com site up and running yet despite releasing an ad pointing people there. The &#8220;under construction&#8221; thing has been removed, and there&#8217;s now a redirect to his old &#8220;Conversation with Qld&#8221; site:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.conversationwithqueensland.com/" rel="nofollow"></a><a href='http://www.conversationwithqueensland.com/'>[link]</a></p>
<p>Warning - it tries to trap your browser and disable your back button.</p>
<p>Also all about Lawrence and no party label.</p>
<p>All this suggests haste - probably to get this dishwater out in the public arena to try to bounce the Libs into the UCP this weekend - the Borg&#8217;s cunning strategy of assimmilation all along.</p>
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		<title>By: Pollytickedoff</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/03/27/pineapple-party-first-time-as-tragedy-second-time-as-the-borg/#comment-450668</link>
		<dc:creator>Pollytickedoff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 03:47:40 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/03/27/pineapple-party-first-time-as-tragedy-second-time-as-the-borg/#comment-450668</guid>
		<description>Can anyone tell me - is there a decent opposition anywhere in Australia at the moment?

The NSW opposition is useless and IMO going backwards. The Vic opposition appears to be doing a little bit better but not much. The Qld opposition seems to be in a right mess and don't know if they are coming or going.

I admit I don't know much about the oppositions in other states but are they also useless?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can anyone tell me - is there a decent opposition anywhere in Australia at the moment?</p>
<p>The NSW opposition is useless and IMO going backwards. The Vic opposition appears to be doing a little bit better but not much. The Qld opposition seems to be in a right mess and don&#8217;t know if they are coming or going.</p>
<p>I admit I don&#8217;t know much about the oppositions in other states but are they also useless?</p>
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		<title>By: Kris</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/03/27/pineapple-party-first-time-as-tragedy-second-time-as-the-borg/#comment-450665</link>
		<dc:creator>Kris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 03:35:02 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/03/27/pineapple-party-first-time-as-tragedy-second-time-as-the-borg/#comment-450665</guid>
		<description>God they are a mess. Unfortunately, all of the opposition parties in this country fall into the category of “carping”, “whining” and “negative”.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>God they are a mess. Unfortunately, all of the opposition parties in this country fall into the category of “carping”, “whining” and “negative”.</p>
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		<title>By: 2353</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/03/27/pineapple-party-first-time-as-tragedy-second-time-as-the-borg/#comment-450664</link>
		<dc:creator>2353</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 03:32:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do the Nats really have such a large bucket of money that they can afford to keep this unbranded advertising up for another 18 months (or is the real plan to blow the cash before the Libs take over)?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do the Nats really have such a large bucket of money that they can afford to keep this unbranded advertising up for another 18 months (or is the real plan to blow the cash before the Libs take over)?</p>
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		<title>By: Kim</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/03/27/pineapple-party-first-time-as-tragedy-second-time-as-the-borg/#comment-450662</link>
		<dc:creator>Kim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 03:27:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmmm. Negative advertising to start off with? I suppose the Borg has no option - last time he ranted and raved about how everything would have been just fine if only the glorious achievements of the Borbidge government had been continued. I suppose he now wants everyone to forget that he was ever a Minister, since apparently he's just beamed down from outer space. What's the basis for getting people to believe that he'll deliver?

He seems to be mashing up themes from all sorts of political campaigns - the Death Star like music from McCain, the "fresh" thing from Kevin07, and the tieless youth bit from David Cameron.

He's got a new hairstyle too, I see.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmmm. Negative advertising to start off with? I suppose the Borg has no option - last time he ranted and raved about how everything would have been just fine if only the glorious achievements of the Borbidge government had been continued. I suppose he now wants everyone to forget that he was ever a Minister, since apparently he&#8217;s just beamed down from outer space. What&#8217;s the basis for getting people to believe that he&#8217;ll deliver?</p>
<p>He seems to be mashing up themes from all sorts of political campaigns - the Death Star like music from McCain, the &#8220;fresh&#8221; thing from Kevin07, and the tieless youth bit from David Cameron.</p>
<p>He&#8217;s got a new hairstyle too, I see.</p>
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