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	<title>Comments on: Masters of War</title>
	<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/03/30/masters-of-war/</link>
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		<title>By: Graham Bell</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/03/30/masters-of-war/#comment-452039</link>
		<dc:creator>Graham Bell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Mar 2008 04:14:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/03/30/masters-of-war/#comment-452039</guid>
		<description>Katz [13]:

Any real shredder would have been the hogger on the killing floor of a local abbatoir.  However, the secret hiding place of the news media's specially-invented Human Shredding Machine, like its Evil Inventor, is yet to be found.  Calling Indiana Jones, calling Indiana Jones!  

Everyone:

Maybe I'm missing something .... but exactly &lt;strong&gt;where and when and by whom &lt;/strong&gt;were these expressions of fury against Australian Prime Minister Rudd made by Japanese officials?.

b.t.w. an apology:  on post [10] I misspelt Julius "Jack" Kruttschnitt's name.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Katz [13]:</p>
<p>Any real shredder would have been the hogger on the killing floor of a local abbatoir.  However, the secret hiding place of the news media&#8217;s specially-invented Human Shredding Machine, like its Evil Inventor, is yet to be found.  Calling Indiana Jones, calling Indiana Jones!  </p>
<p>Everyone:</p>
<p>Maybe I&#8217;m missing something &#8230;. but exactly <strong>where and when and by whom </strong>were these expressions of fury against Australian Prime Minister Rudd made by Japanese officials?.</p>
<p>b.t.w. an apology:  on post [10] I misspelt Julius &#8220;Jack&#8221; Kruttschnitt&#8217;s name.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Burns</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/03/30/masters-of-war/#comment-452007</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Burns</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Mar 2008 02:54:37 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/03/30/masters-of-war/#comment-452007</guid>
		<description>There have been 2 ministerrial visits to Japan since Rudd won the election and so far as I know Rudd is going there later in the year. I was under the impression people who were expert on China also had a certain amount of expertiser on Korea aqnd Japan. Its a bit hard to believe Rudd would have intentionally snubbed the Japanese, (despite my earlier comment on whales). After all the bloke was a diplomat. I knbow I'm a paranoid old leftie, but I smell a neo-con beat up that thje Japs have jumped on board with asd packback fpor the whaling thing.Plus maybe a bit of good old Sino-Japanese animosity and rivalry. History has a long arm.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There have been 2 ministerrial visits to Japan since Rudd won the election and so far as I know Rudd is going there later in the year. I was under the impression people who were expert on China also had a certain amount of expertiser on Korea aqnd Japan. Its a bit hard to believe Rudd would have intentionally snubbed the Japanese, (despite my earlier comment on whales). After all the bloke was a diplomat. I knbow I&#8217;m a paranoid old leftie, but I smell a neo-con beat up that thje Japs have jumped on board with asd packback fpor the whaling thing.Plus maybe a bit of good old Sino-Japanese animosity and rivalry. History has a long arm.</p>
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		<title>By: adrian</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/03/30/masters-of-war/#comment-451978</link>
		<dc:creator>adrian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Mar 2008 01:44:19 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/03/30/masters-of-war/#comment-451978</guid>
		<description>Just as I thought, the ABC!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just as I thought, the ABC!</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/03/30/masters-of-war/#comment-451965</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Mar 2008 01:31:25 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/03/30/masters-of-war/#comment-451965</guid>
		<description>I just inquired - I'm told the person who told me thinks it's on Radio National this week.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just inquired - I&#8217;m told the person who told me thinks it&#8217;s on Radio National this week.</p>
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		<title>By: adrian</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/03/30/masters-of-war/#comment-451959</link>
		<dc:creator>adrian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Mar 2008 01:29:08 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/03/30/masters-of-war/#comment-451959</guid>
		<description>That will be one major interview to hang out for. Can't imagine which news organisation would publish Lord Downer's extremely relevant views. Let me guess.. A very limited news organisation?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That will be one major interview to hang out for. Can&#8217;t imagine which news organisation would publish Lord Downer&#8217;s extremely relevant views. Let me guess.. A very limited news organisation?</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/03/30/masters-of-war/#comment-451945</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Mar 2008 01:08:44 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/03/30/masters-of-war/#comment-451945</guid>
		<description>It's quite plausible. Apparently Dolly will soon be giving a &lt;b&gt;major interview&lt;/b&gt; on what the government should be doing on foreign policy, given his vantage point of accumulated wisdom.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s quite plausible. Apparently Dolly will soon be giving a <b>major interview</b> on what the government should be doing on foreign policy, given his vantage point of accumulated wisdom.</p>
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		<title>By: Katz</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/03/30/masters-of-war/#comment-451944</link>
		<dc:creator>Katz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Mar 2008 01:07:15 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/03/30/masters-of-war/#comment-451944</guid>
		<description>From ER's link:

&lt;blockquote&gt;A senior diplomatic source indicated that unless Mr Rudd moved quickly to set up bilateral talks with Japanese Prime Minister Yasuo Fukuda, Australia could "kiss goodbye any hope of getting the Japanese to ease off on whaling".

"This is a very serious snub," the diplomatic source said. "And don't think the Japanese haven't noticed. They are bloody furious."&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I note that his "senior diplomatic source" is in fact Australian, not Japanese.

I note that this source is not named as a "DFAT officer", so he or she may not even be an active officer, or indeed may not never have been an officer.

The description "senior diplomatic source" identifies Lord Dolly Downer perfectly.

I'm not suggesting the "source" was His Lordship. But neither can it be ruled out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From ER&#8217;s link:</p>
<blockquote><p>A senior diplomatic source indicated that unless Mr Rudd moved quickly to set up bilateral talks with Japanese Prime Minister Yasuo Fukuda, Australia could &#8220;kiss goodbye any hope of getting the Japanese to ease off on whaling&#8221;.</p>
<p>&#8220;This is a very serious snub,&#8221; the diplomatic source said. &#8220;And don&#8217;t think the Japanese haven&#8217;t noticed. They are bloody furious.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>I note that his &#8220;senior diplomatic source&#8221; is in fact Australian, not Japanese.</p>
<p>I note that this source is not named as a &#8220;DFAT officer&#8221;, so he or she may not even be an active officer, or indeed may not never have been an officer.</p>
<p>The description &#8220;senior diplomatic source&#8221; identifies Lord Dolly Downer perfectly.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not suggesting the &#8220;source&#8221; was His Lordship. But neither can it be ruled out.</p>
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		<title>By: murph the surf</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/03/30/masters-of-war/#comment-451940</link>
		<dc:creator>murph the surf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Mar 2008 00:50:37 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/03/30/masters-of-war/#comment-451940</guid>
		<description>Paul I agree it is a very unsubtle way to make a point.
Not entirely convinced that a snub will allow us to start productive talks with the japanese at a later time either.
'Nemawashi' in japanese is literally working around the roots but it reflects the need for preparation , consultation and long term partnership being fostered so contentious issues can be dealt with to the satisfaction of both sides.
By  having approached any disagreement with the japanese without due consideration of their cultural sensitivities is plainly a mistake. 
It is possible to react to them by just cutting ties and protesting loudly but it is also ignorant and undiplomatic.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nemawashi</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paul I agree it is a very unsubtle way to make a point.<br />
Not entirely convinced that a snub will allow us to start productive talks with the japanese at a later time either.<br />
&#8216;Nemawashi&#8217; in japanese is literally working around the roots but it reflects the need for preparation , consultation and long term partnership being fostered so contentious issues can be dealt with to the satisfaction of both sides.<br />
By  having approached any disagreement with the japanese without due consideration of their cultural sensitivities is plainly a mistake.<br />
It is possible to react to them by just cutting ties and protesting loudly but it is also ignorant and undiplomatic.<br />
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nemawashi" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nemawashi</a></p>
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		<title>By: Paul Burns</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/03/30/masters-of-war/#comment-451934</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Burns</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Mar 2008 00:37:56 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/03/30/masters-of-war/#comment-451934</guid>
		<description>murph the surf,
Uh, making a none too subtle point about illegal Japanese whaling in Australian Antarctic waters? In theory one is not supposed to reward bad behaviour.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>murph the surf,<br />
Uh, making a none too subtle point about illegal Japanese whaling in Australian Antarctic waters? In theory one is not supposed to reward bad behaviour.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/03/30/masters-of-war/#comment-451931</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Mar 2008 00:33:35 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/03/30/masters-of-war/#comment-451931</guid>
		<description>Stephen Smith met the Japanese foreign minister as one of his first acts in office.

There may well be a point to this, but I can't help thinking the fact that Brendan Nelson repeats it every bloody night on the news is cynical. If Rudd added an extra day or two in Japan, would we get "Oh noes! PM out of Australia for 19 days in lead up to budget!"...

It's a Kevinist rhetorical question btw.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stephen Smith met the Japanese foreign minister as one of his first acts in office.</p>
<p>There may well be a point to this, but I can&#8217;t help thinking the fact that Brendan Nelson repeats it every bloody night on the news is cynical. If Rudd added an extra day or two in Japan, would we get &#8220;Oh noes! PM out of Australia for 19 days in lead up to budget!&#8221;&#8230;</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a Kevinist rhetorical question btw.</p>
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		<title>By: murph the surf</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/03/30/masters-of-war/#comment-451926</link>
		<dc:creator>murph the surf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Mar 2008 00:28:15 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/03/30/masters-of-war/#comment-451926</guid>
		<description>I don't think I qualify as a RWDB but this faux pas of Mr Rudd with regard to due face being given to Japan doesn't reflect much independence of thought. 
The inclusion of Japan as being similar to India or China is obviously a slip of the tongue - who knows? Perhaps he was including them as they are significant investors in both places ?
Why not openly accommodate both important trading partners ? 
There is tremendous sensitivity among the japanese  to the idea that any nation may even appear to be favouring China over their interests. A more careful consideration of this fact seems to have been overlooked and I can't understand why it has occurred other than it has been a stuff up.*

*Mick Young theory of Politics.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think I qualify as a RWDB but this faux pas of Mr Rudd with regard to due face being given to Japan doesn&#8217;t reflect much independence of thought.<br />
The inclusion of Japan as being similar to India or China is obviously a slip of the tongue - who knows? Perhaps he was including them as they are significant investors in both places ?<br />
Why not openly accommodate both important trading partners ?<br />
There is tremendous sensitivity among the japanese  to the idea that any nation may even appear to be favouring China over their interests. A more careful consideration of this fact seems to have been overlooked and I can&#8217;t understand why it has occurred other than it has been a stuff up.*</p>
<p>*Mick Young theory of Politics.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/03/30/masters-of-war/#comment-451920</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Mar 2008 00:18:55 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/03/30/masters-of-war/#comment-451920</guid>
		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;At least Howard knew where Japan is.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Oh how excitement! RWDB repeats opposition talking points. Never would have seen that coming.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>At least Howard knew where Japan is.</p></blockquote>
<p>Oh how excitement! RWDB repeats opposition talking points. Never would have seen that coming.</p>
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		<title>By: Katz</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/03/30/masters-of-war/#comment-451918</link>
		<dc:creator>Katz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Mar 2008 00:17:38 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/03/30/masters-of-war/#comment-451918</guid>
		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;At least Howard knew where Japan is.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

but does he know where Saddam Hussein's dreaded human shredding machine is?

http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2003/03/20/1047749878074.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>At least Howard knew where Japan is.</p></blockquote>
<p>but does he know where Saddam Hussein&#8217;s dreaded human shredding machine is?</p>
<p><a href="http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2003/03/20/1047749878074.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2003/03/20/1047749878074.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Eliot Ramsey</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/03/30/masters-of-war/#comment-451912</link>
		<dc:creator>Eliot Ramsey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Mar 2008 23:56:25 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/03/30/masters-of-war/#comment-451912</guid>
		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Despite the rather pathetic bleatings of the opposition on Kevin Rudd’s reception in Washington, there’s little doubt John Howard would be seething.&lt;/blockquote&gt;



Actually, he's probably laughing if he can recall Rudd saying this...



&lt;blockquote&gt;And our view is that if we have such strong economic relationships with the emerging economies of China and Japan, that frankly we should be in there as well. Remember, our whole future is going to be shaped by this region with the emerging economies of India, China, Japan and others.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

  

- &lt;a href="http://www.abc.net.au/lateline/content/2005/s1340703.htm" rel="nofollow"&gt;Kevin Rudd&lt;/a&gt;, 7 April 2005

&lt;blockquote&gt;Japanese officials are incensed that the Mandarin-speaking Mr Rudd appears to be favouring Beijing, but has virtually ignored Japan since taking office four months ago… &lt;/blockquote&gt;

- &lt;a href="http://www.theage.com.au/news/national/japan-fury-over-snub/2008/03/15/1205472163984.html
"&gt;- 16 March 2008&lt;/a&gt;

At least Howard knew where Japan is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Despite the rather pathetic bleatings of the opposition on Kevin Rudd’s reception in Washington, there’s little doubt John Howard would be seething.</p></blockquote>
<p>Actually, he&#8217;s probably laughing if he can recall Rudd saying this&#8230;</p>
<blockquote><p>And our view is that if we have such strong economic relationships with the emerging economies of China and Japan, that frankly we should be in there as well. Remember, our whole future is going to be shaped by this region with the emerging economies of India, China, Japan and others.</p></blockquote>
<p>- <a href="http://www.abc.net.au/lateline/content/2005/s1340703.htm" rel="nofollow">Kevin Rudd</a>, 7 April 2005</p>
<blockquote><p>Japanese officials are incensed that the Mandarin-speaking Mr Rudd appears to be favouring Beijing, but has virtually ignored Japan since taking office four months ago… </p></blockquote>
<p>- <a href="http://www.theage.com.au/news/national/japan-fury-over-snub/2008/03/15/1205472163984.html<br />
">- 16 March 2008</a></p>
<p>At least Howard knew where Japan is.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Burns</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/03/30/masters-of-war/#comment-451893</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Burns</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Mar 2008 22:45:19 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/03/30/masters-of-war/#comment-451893</guid>
		<description>Condaleeza Rice had a very disagreeable expression on her face in the audience too. Think there's heaps went on behind the scenes with Bush and Rudd we won't know till the Australian Archives are opened in 30 years or the "free" press in the US bows the whistle. Expecting some kind of shocking anti-Rudd exposure on Fox or smilar outlets of Republican neo-con propaganda. And what was Rudd's riposte to the "man of steel" rubbish?
btw, John would not be happy, I agree. Another fragment of the Howard legacy shattered.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Condaleeza Rice had a very disagreeable expression on her face in the audience too. Think there&#8217;s heaps went on behind the scenes with Bush and Rudd we won&#8217;t know till the Australian Archives are opened in 30 years or the &#8220;free&#8221; press in the US bows the whistle. Expecting some kind of shocking anti-Rudd exposure on Fox or smilar outlets of Republican neo-con propaganda. And what was Rudd&#8217;s riposte to the &#8220;man of steel&#8221; rubbish?<br />
btw, John would not be happy, I agree. Another fragment of the Howard legacy shattered.</p>
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		<title>By: Graham Bell</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/03/30/masters-of-war/#comment-451887</link>
		<dc:creator>Graham Bell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Mar 2008 22:00:12 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/03/30/masters-of-war/#comment-451887</guid>
		<description>J-P-Z [9]:

A Queenslander is a late 19th~early 20th Century big weatherboard house with very wide verandahs and set on 6 foot high timber stumps [an influence from Malaysia] which allowed cooling breezes to flow under the house; it's high-pitched corrugated iron roof and its high ceilings made the inside of the house more comfortable than inside an ordinary house [quite clever, really].   Since only the well-off could afford to have them built, the quality of building was usually better.   This - as well as their style - is the reason they are so popular with rich young renovators nowadays. 

Anita [7]:

Buchanan's Hotel [featured on a postage stamp] burnt to the ground .... but if that hadn't happened, there's no doubt it would have been bellevued too. 

Everyone:

Someone ought to write a history of the Americans who were in North Queensland in the 'thirties and 'forties .... not just LBJ but robust characters like old Jack Kruschnitt at Mount Isa.   There was a lot more American influence in that part of the world than just from the U.S. military occupation alone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>J-P-Z [9]:</p>
<p>A Queenslander is a late 19th~early 20th Century big weatherboard house with very wide verandahs and set on 6 foot high timber stumps [an influence from Malaysia] which allowed cooling breezes to flow under the house; it&#8217;s high-pitched corrugated iron roof and its high ceilings made the inside of the house more comfortable than inside an ordinary house [quite clever, really].   Since only the well-off could afford to have them built, the quality of building was usually better.   This - as well as their style - is the reason they are so popular with rich young renovators nowadays. </p>
<p>Anita [7]:</p>
<p>Buchanan&#8217;s Hotel [featured on a postage stamp] burnt to the ground &#8230;. but if that hadn&#8217;t happened, there&#8217;s no doubt it would have been bellevued too. </p>
<p>Everyone:</p>
<p>Someone ought to write a history of the Americans who were in North Queensland in the &#8216;thirties and &#8216;forties &#8230;. not just LBJ but robust characters like old Jack Kruschnitt at Mount Isa.   There was a lot more American influence in that part of the world than just from the U.S. military occupation alone.</p>
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		<title>By: j_p_z</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/03/30/masters-of-war/#comment-451857</link>
		<dc:creator>j_p_z</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Mar 2008 18:40:53 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/03/30/masters-of-war/#comment-451857</guid>
		<description>Mark: "most Quincelanders won’t welcome the bestowal by the Man of Steel Mark II of the title of “honorary Queenslander” on one George W. Bush."

From what I gather, the word "Queenslander" seems to also refer to a type of small house, is it a kind of small bungalow?  Maybe that's what Rudd had in mind.  "Bungalow" would certainly be an in-the-ballpark (if overly generous) description of the scale of Mr. Bush's mind, or of his political stature at present.

I think in context Rudd wasn't being particularly honorific to Bush with that, but simply drawing a parallel between the idea of the Queenslander character and the idea of the Texan character, which seems not too far off base.  If we divide the Anglosphere into two roughly equal halves, the Commonwealth and the US, it seems to me that in some respects, Australia when taken as a conceptual or spiritual place is sort of the Commonwealth's correspondency to the place Texas holds in the overall American psyche.  Except maybe for the really dirty politics.  And Ma Ferguson.  Has Australia got a Ma Ferguson?

btw, I couldn't find online Rudd's riposte to the Man of Steel thing.  What did he say?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark: &#8220;most Quincelanders won’t welcome the bestowal by the Man of Steel Mark II of the title of “honorary Queenslander” on one George W. Bush.&#8221;</p>
<p>From what I gather, the word &#8220;Queenslander&#8221; seems to also refer to a type of small house, is it a kind of small bungalow?  Maybe that&#8217;s what Rudd had in mind.  &#8220;Bungalow&#8221; would certainly be an in-the-ballpark (if overly generous) description of the scale of Mr. Bush&#8217;s mind, or of his political stature at present.</p>
<p>I think in context Rudd wasn&#8217;t being particularly honorific to Bush with that, but simply drawing a parallel between the idea of the Queenslander character and the idea of the Texan character, which seems not too far off base.  If we divide the Anglosphere into two roughly equal halves, the Commonwealth and the US, it seems to me that in some respects, Australia when taken as a conceptual or spiritual place is sort of the Commonwealth&#8217;s correspondency to the place Texas holds in the overall American psyche.  Except maybe for the really dirty politics.  And Ma Ferguson.  Has Australia got a Ma Ferguson?</p>
<p>btw, I couldn&#8217;t find online Rudd&#8217;s riposte to the Man of Steel thing.  What did he say?</p>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/03/30/masters-of-war/#comment-451815</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Mar 2008 12:56:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When I think of LBJ and Australia I think first of &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harold_Holt#Holt_and_Vietnam" rel="nofollow"&gt;Harold Holt's words&lt;/a&gt; "all the way with LBJ" and Robert Askin's instruction to his driver "Run over the bastards" when Vietnam protesters lay down in front of the car in Sydney.

But I also recall LBJ visiting Newstead House on the Brisbane River near Breakfast Creek. There's nothing on &lt;a href="http://www.newsteadhouse.com.au/" rel="nofollow"&gt;the official site&lt;/a&gt; but courtesy of the Dunns, Paul and Elisabeth, it is recorded that there is a &lt;a href="http://www.paulandelizabeth.com/oz/framed/page26.html" rel="nofollow"&gt;Lyndon B. Johnson Place&lt;/a&gt; in the grounds near the river. 

At &lt;a href="http://www.paulandelizabeth.com/oz/framed/page27.html" rel="nofollow"&gt;the bottom of the next page&lt;/a&gt; is the monument to the Americans for their help in WW11. I think LBJ was taken to see it, whereupon the place was named after him.

In looking around I came upon &lt;a href="http://hbswk.hbs.edu/archive/5332.html" rel="nofollow"&gt;this excerpt of an interview with Caro on Johnson.&lt;/a&gt; A cynical bastard. See especially the last para.

&lt;blockquote&gt;For Johnson, all men were tools, and to use them he had to know their weaknesses.&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I think of LBJ and Australia I think first of <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harold_Holt#Holt_and_Vietnam" rel="nofollow">Harold Holt&#8217;s words</a> &#8220;all the way with LBJ&#8221; and Robert Askin&#8217;s instruction to his driver &#8220;Run over the bastards&#8221; when Vietnam protesters lay down in front of the car in Sydney.</p>
<p>But I also recall LBJ visiting Newstead House on the Brisbane River near Breakfast Creek. There&#8217;s nothing on <a href="http://www.newsteadhouse.com.au/" rel="nofollow">the official site</a> but courtesy of the Dunns, Paul and Elisabeth, it is recorded that there is a <a href="http://www.paulandelizabeth.com/oz/framed/page26.html" rel="nofollow">Lyndon B. Johnson Place</a> in the grounds near the river. </p>
<p>At <a href="http://www.paulandelizabeth.com/oz/framed/page27.html" rel="nofollow">the bottom of the next page</a> is the monument to the Americans for their help in WW11. I think LBJ was taken to see it, whereupon the place was named after him.</p>
<p>In looking around I came upon <a href="http://hbswk.hbs.edu/archive/5332.html" rel="nofollow">this excerpt of an interview with Caro on Johnson.</a> A cynical bastard. See especially the last para.</p>
<blockquote><p>For Johnson, all men were tools, and to use them he had to know their weaknesses.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: Anita</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/03/30/masters-of-war/#comment-451809</link>
		<dc:creator>Anita</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Mar 2008 12:34:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I remember my father telling me that LBJ stayed at Buchanan's Hotel in Townsville during WW2 (so had my father.) Dad booked the family into Buchanan's on a family trip south from FNQ in 1971 so we could soak up the history and atmosphere. Buchanan's was a fabulous iron lace affair - probably not unlike the Brisbane Bellevue, I'd guess. I was impressed. It was wonderful. Judging by a quick google, Buchanan's is not there any more, probably gone in the Idiot Wind reign of Joh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I remember my father telling me that LBJ stayed at Buchanan&#8217;s Hotel in Townsville during WW2 (so had my father.) Dad booked the family into Buchanan&#8217;s on a family trip south from FNQ in 1971 so we could soak up the history and atmosphere. Buchanan&#8217;s was a fabulous iron lace affair - probably not unlike the Brisbane Bellevue, I&#8217;d guess. I was impressed. It was wonderful. Judging by a quick google, Buchanan&#8217;s is not there any more, probably gone in the Idiot Wind reign of Joh.</p>
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		<title>By: gandhi</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/03/30/masters-of-war/#comment-451800</link>
		<dc:creator>gandhi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Mar 2008 11:44:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is always an apt Dylan title for a blog post. Always. Even if it's "Too Much Of Nothing"!

I thought there was an interesting power contrast between Rudd and Bush, with the supposedly more powerful one representing failure and the past, somewhat in the shadow of the one representing the future. 

Bush recently sang a ditty called the "Brown Brown Grass of Home" - he seems to be counting the days till he can pack it all in. Rudd on the other hand seems quite brimming with confidence and optimism - it's a good look for our country.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is always an apt Dylan title for a blog post. Always. Even if it&#8217;s &#8220;Too Much Of Nothing&#8221;!</p>
<p>I thought there was an interesting power contrast between Rudd and Bush, with the supposedly more powerful one representing failure and the past, somewhat in the shadow of the one representing the future. </p>
<p>Bush recently sang a ditty called the &#8220;Brown Brown Grass of Home&#8221; - he seems to be counting the days till he can pack it all in. Rudd on the other hand seems quite brimming with confidence and optimism - it&#8217;s a good look for our country.</p>
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