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		<title>By: Adrien</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/04/04/students-against-academic-freedom/comment-page-3/#comment-454771</link>
		<dc:creator>Adrien</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Apr 2008 05:33:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I’ve got too much work to do today to go talk to Bird, Adrien. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

No you are lying. You know that stoushing with Graeme is the most useful thing you could ever do and you just don&#039;t want to do it because adhering to the mainstream view of climatology disqualifies you from teaching humanities subjects at Uni. 

&lt;blockquote&gt;Peter Carey worked in advertising for a lot of years, although I think he went part time when he started to get published.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

And Don Delillo; and Raymond Chandler who once wrote that chess is the greatest waste of human intelligence you&#039;ll find anywhere outside an advertising agency.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I’ve got too much work to do today to go talk to Bird, Adrien. </p></blockquote>
<p>No you are lying. You know that stoushing with Graeme is the most useful thing you could ever do and you just don&#8217;t want to do it because adhering to the mainstream view of climatology disqualifies you from teaching humanities subjects at Uni. </p>
<blockquote><p>Peter Carey worked in advertising for a lot of years, although I think he went part time when he started to get published.</p></blockquote>
<p>And Don Delillo; and Raymond Chandler who once wrote that chess is the greatest waste of human intelligence you&#8217;ll find anywhere outside an advertising agency.</p>
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		<title>By: Klaus K</title>
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		<dc:creator>Klaus K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Apr 2008 05:25:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;There are people who do advertising and art. Altho’ being advertising full time sucks the creative cordial out of you.&quot;

Peter Carey worked in advertising for a lot of years, although I think he went part time when he started to get published.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;There are people who do advertising and art. Altho’ being advertising full time sucks the creative cordial out of you.&#8221;</p>
<p>Peter Carey worked in advertising for a lot of years, although I think he went part time when he started to get published.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/04/04/students-against-academic-freedom/comment-page-3/#comment-454760</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Apr 2008 04:48:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve got too much work to do today to go talk to Bird, Adrien. Contrary to his belief, those tax dollars don&#039;t get eaten automatically, and nor does the nefarious income stream from paid writing flow without working for it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve got too much work to do today to go talk to Bird, Adrien. Contrary to his belief, those tax dollars don&#8217;t get eaten automatically, and nor does the nefarious income stream from paid writing flow without working for it.</p>
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		<title>By: Adrien</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/04/04/students-against-academic-freedom/comment-page-3/#comment-454757</link>
		<dc:creator>Adrien</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Apr 2008 04:42:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Oh yeah, middleweight and heavyweight ad teams talk about the great art they’re gonna do someday while the artists talk about the grants they’re applying for.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

There are people who do advertising and art. Altho&#039; being advertising full time sucks the creative cordial out of you. And gives you a certain kind of tunnel vision:

&lt;blockquote&gt;Y&#039;know what Bill&#039;s doing. He&#039;s going for that anti-marketing dollar. That&#039;s a big dollar we&#039;ve done our research. He&#039;s doing a good thing&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I&#039;ve seen lots of filmakers, aritists, writers etc get sucked into the Money-Go-Round. They can&#039;t get off. Fine living is addictive and erodes willpower. But there are people who manage to to plug in without getting sucked in: - http://www.adamcruickshank.com/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Oh yeah, middleweight and heavyweight ad teams talk about the great art they’re gonna do someday while the artists talk about the grants they’re applying for.</p></blockquote>
<p>There are people who do advertising and art. Altho&#8217; being advertising full time sucks the creative cordial out of you. And gives you a certain kind of tunnel vision:</p>
<blockquote><p>Y&#8217;know what Bill&#8217;s doing. He&#8217;s going for that anti-marketing dollar. That&#8217;s a big dollar we&#8217;ve done our research. He&#8217;s doing a good thing</p></blockquote>
<p>I&#8217;ve seen lots of filmakers, aritists, writers etc get sucked into the Money-Go-Round. They can&#8217;t get off. Fine living is addictive and erodes willpower. But there are people who manage to to plug in without getting sucked in: &#8211; <a href="http://www.adamcruickshank.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.adamcruickshank.com/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Adrien</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/04/04/students-against-academic-freedom/comment-page-2/#comment-454753</link>
		<dc:creator>Adrien</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Apr 2008 04:33:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On the concept of selling out. I remember just before graduation an acquaintence of my mine scoffed at the very idea that one could sell out. Of course she was about to sell out. She was a law student; what could she do? 
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You can of course sell out. But you don&#039;t do this by writing for News Ltd. Are the writers of &lt;i&gt;The Simpsons&lt;/i&gt; &#039;sell-outs&#039;? Are the people who made &lt;i&gt;Fight Club&lt;/i&gt; &#039;sell-outs&#039;? Rupert didn&#039;t like &lt;i&gt;Fight Club&lt;/i&gt;; apparently the colour drained from his face when he saw it.
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Anyway you sell out by doing something dishonest for money. As a writer that means writing something you don&#039;t really believe for money. I do this routinely. I haven&#039;t the time or the inclination to investigate my clientelle throughly and find out whether Hokey Hills really is the best location on the Whatever Coast. That&#039;s not my business. However that&#039;s PR bullshit and just like every other kind of promotional bullshit it&#039;s understood as such. I do draw a line however - I&#039;m not helping anyone market arsenic flavour&#039;d children&#039;s cereal.
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In the case of political opinion there at least should be a higher stand (tongue cheeck/eyes to ceiling). So if you find Mark writing articles advocating Work Choices or something then you can call him a sell-out (IMHO).
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BTW Mark please get yourself over to Catallaxy. GMB&#039;s complaining that you haven&#039;t old him what you want to lie about - http://catallaxyfiles.com/?p=3503#comment-89256
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What do you want to lie about? Enquiring mnds wanna know. 



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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On the concept of selling out. I remember just before graduation an acquaintence of my mine scoffed at the very idea that one could sell out. Of course she was about to sell out. She was a law student; what could she do?<br />
&gt;<br />
You can of course sell out. But you don&#8217;t do this by writing for News Ltd. Are the writers of <i>The Simpsons</i> &#8217;sell-outs&#8217;? Are the people who made <i>Fight Club</i> &#8217;sell-outs&#8217;? Rupert didn&#8217;t like <i>Fight Club</i>; apparently the colour drained from his face when he saw it.<br />
&gt;<br />
Anyway you sell out by doing something dishonest for money. As a writer that means writing something you don&#8217;t really believe for money. I do this routinely. I haven&#8217;t the time or the inclination to investigate my clientelle throughly and find out whether Hokey Hills really is the best location on the Whatever Coast. That&#8217;s not my business. However that&#8217;s PR bullshit and just like every other kind of promotional bullshit it&#8217;s understood as such. I do draw a line however &#8211; I&#8217;m not helping anyone market arsenic flavour&#8217;d children&#8217;s cereal.<br />
&gt;<br />
In the case of political opinion there at least should be a higher stand (tongue cheeck/eyes to ceiling). So if you find Mark writing articles advocating Work Choices or something then you can call him a sell-out (IMHO).<br />
&gt;<br />
BTW Mark please get yourself over to Catallaxy. GMB&#8217;s complaining that you haven&#8217;t old him what you want to lie about &#8211; <a href="http://catallaxyfiles.com/?p=3503#comment-89256" rel="nofollow">http://catallaxyfiles.com/?p=3503#comment-89256</a><br />
&gt;<br />
What do you want to lie about? Enquiring mnds wanna know. </p>
<p><a href="http://catallaxyfiles.com/?p=3503#comment-89256" rel="nofollow">http://catallaxyfiles.com/?p=3503#comment-89256</a></p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/04/04/students-against-academic-freedom/comment-page-2/#comment-454674</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Apr 2008 00:48:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cheers, Alastair - glad you liked the piece!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cheers, Alastair &#8211; glad you liked the piece!</p>
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		<title>By: Nabakov</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nabakov</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Apr 2008 18:28:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Speak like a hippie but behave like a member of the mafia.&quot;

Oh yeah, middleweight and heavyweight ad teams talk about the great art they&#039;re gonna do someday while the artists talk about the grants they&#039;re applying for.

And re the whole &quot;Mark is selling out&quot; thang. The only thing worse than selling out is not getting even a whisper of a nibble in the first place.

Temporary canvas shelters and my urinary tract have intersected many times over the years. So I can tell y&#039;all for experience that outside the tent pissing in is not a patch on being inside the tent, pissing in the punchbowl and then sticking to freshly opened champagne for the rest of the evening.

I used to accept money from one of the world&#039;s biggest weapons merchants for copywriting work. Cheerfully. And then spent quite a lot of it with glee on pursuits that would never be sanctioned by the senior management of L*ckh**d. 

As did Thomas Pynchon, who used to write copy for Boeing&#039;s missile division in the early sixties. The fact he went onto possibly more impressive creative shit than I did in no way disproves my point...whatever the fuck it was.

Oh yes, it&#039;s only truly selling out when you&#039;re offering up for the best offer your means of production instead of just your product.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Speak like a hippie but behave like a member of the mafia.&#8221;</p>
<p>Oh yeah, middleweight and heavyweight ad teams talk about the great art they&#8217;re gonna do someday while the artists talk about the grants they&#8217;re applying for.</p>
<p>And re the whole &#8220;Mark is selling out&#8221; thang. The only thing worse than selling out is not getting even a whisper of a nibble in the first place.</p>
<p>Temporary canvas shelters and my urinary tract have intersected many times over the years. So I can tell y&#8217;all for experience that outside the tent pissing in is not a patch on being inside the tent, pissing in the punchbowl and then sticking to freshly opened champagne for the rest of the evening.</p>
<p>I used to accept money from one of the world&#8217;s biggest weapons merchants for copywriting work. Cheerfully. And then spent quite a lot of it with glee on pursuits that would never be sanctioned by the senior management of L*ckh**d. </p>
<p>As did Thomas Pynchon, who used to write copy for Boeing&#8217;s missile division in the early sixties. The fact he went onto possibly more impressive creative shit than I did in no way disproves my point&#8230;whatever the fuck it was.</p>
<p>Oh yes, it&#8217;s only truly selling out when you&#8217;re offering up for the best offer your means of production instead of just your product.</p>
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		<title>By: Alastair</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/04/04/students-against-academic-freedom/comment-page-2/#comment-454620</link>
		<dc:creator>Alastair</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Apr 2008 18:20:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gandhi (and others) get over it. People are entitled to work for a living. That includes writing opinion articles. Who&#039;s opinion you ask? Mark&#039;s opinion. How shocking! Did you even read Mark&#039;s article? It was a very good one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gandhi (and others) get over it. People are entitled to work for a living. That includes writing opinion articles. Who&#8217;s opinion you ask? Mark&#8217;s opinion. How shocking! Did you even read Mark&#8217;s article? It was a very good one.</p>
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		<title>By: jo</title>
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		<dc:creator>jo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Apr 2008 14:38:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>cheers, mark.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>cheers, mark.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Apr 2008 12:04:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Except, Jane, that I don&#039;t think I&#039;m compromising anything much, though Gandhi/Megan obviously do. I think what&#039;s relevant here now is a point my colleague at CI, Jason Wilson, made last year about the &quot;GG v. blogosphere wars&quot; - &quot;ownership&quot; of ideas about a particular field of discussion is more important now than &quot;ownership&quot; in the material sense of a news empire. It gets more complex than that, as Jason would of course recognise, but there&#039;s also the reading habits of politically engaged people to take into account - which are far more about the nature of the content and the ability to engage than the platform that it appears on.

Jo, I believe I may have mentioned before I reckon you&#039;re one supremely smart cookie!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Except, Jane, that I don&#8217;t think I&#8217;m compromising anything much, though Gandhi/Megan obviously do. I think what&#8217;s relevant here now is a point my colleague at CI, Jason Wilson, made last year about the &#8220;GG v. blogosphere wars&#8221; &#8211; &#8220;ownership&#8221; of ideas about a particular field of discussion is more important now than &#8220;ownership&#8221; in the material sense of a news empire. It gets more complex than that, as Jason would of course recognise, but there&#8217;s also the reading habits of politically engaged people to take into account &#8211; which are far more about the nature of the content and the ability to engage than the platform that it appears on.</p>
<p>Jo, I believe I may have mentioned before I reckon you&#8217;re one supremely smart cookie!</p>
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		<title>By: Adrien</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adrien</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Apr 2008 07:54:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Creative Industries crew (on whose ship I sail through the academic seas currently) emphasise a very different sort of economism than any Marxists had in mind.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

The economic culture of the Creative Industries lesson #1: Ettiquette.
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Speak like a hippie but behave like a member of the mafia. :)

&lt;blockquote&gt;I will forbear to elaborate on what one Griffith left-wing delegate did to the instant coffee in the Labor Right students’ shared kitchen one year.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

They had it coming, they had it coming, they only had themselves to blame.
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Actually it might&#039;ve been Geelong? No it definitely wasn&#039;t Geelong it was in the middle of nowhere far from the water. Christ I haven&#039;t been out the Parkville-Carlton-CBD triangle in years.
&gt;
Anyway it is interesting that considering the 6-7 figure sums this most over-rated producer of cheap posters and posers charges each student council you&#039;d think they could orgnaize a conference that didn&#039;t put people in surgery. But then you&#039;ve got to get to know &#039;em.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Creative Industries crew (on whose ship I sail through the academic seas currently) emphasise a very different sort of economism than any Marxists had in mind.</p></blockquote>
<p>The economic culture of the Creative Industries lesson #1: Ettiquette.<br />
&gt;<br />
Speak like a hippie but behave like a member of the mafia. <img src='http://larvatusprodeo.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<blockquote><p>I will forbear to elaborate on what one Griffith left-wing delegate did to the instant coffee in the Labor Right students’ shared kitchen one year.</p></blockquote>
<p>They had it coming, they had it coming, they only had themselves to blame.<br />
&gt;<br />
Actually it might&#8217;ve been Geelong? No it definitely wasn&#8217;t Geelong it was in the middle of nowhere far from the water. Christ I haven&#8217;t been out the Parkville-Carlton-CBD triangle in years.<br />
&gt;<br />
Anyway it is interesting that considering the 6-7 figure sums this most over-rated producer of cheap posters and posers charges each student council you&#8217;d think they could orgnaize a conference that didn&#8217;t put people in surgery. But then you&#8217;ve got to get to know &#8216;em.</p>
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		<title>By: jo</title>
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		<dc:creator>jo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Apr 2008 07:35:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The new LP business plan is proceeding nicely, Mark :)

Calls for your ‘head’ – excellent!! – the HES readership could double with the right management of this. 

Alas, Bolt &amp; Blair are just mine hosts for skanky blog taverns (dank surrounds, watered down threads, badly cut opinions), but sadly, not enough influence to create a front-page gate. 

But just imagine a fully formed Rag-gate! You’d have to remodel the fourth quarter forecasts for LP advert revenues.

And have an opinion piece ready - Is biting the hand that feeds it un-The Australian? 

Taking coin from Rupert? Way smarter than giving him yours.

Get as many sackfuls as you can. Or hankies full.
 
You’ll be breaking even on GG’s at some point. Not many can say they are ahead on News.

As for gandhi, if he thought about what he wrote on his blog, instead of just writing it….from his own keypad: 

“At one stage last year I decided to totally boycott the Murdoch media and not even read their stories, let alone link to them. But it proved impossible to continue blogging about Australian politics while doing so, because the Murdoch team was actually creating much of the news (Newspoll is only the most obvious example). Another big problem with a boycott is that Murdoch owns so many bloody media outlets.” 

Yes, cloven hooves are rubbed together every time you link to a News site, gandhi, and you’ll be needing a new bottle of windex to polish up the glasshouse.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The new LP business plan is proceeding nicely, Mark <img src='http://larvatusprodeo.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Calls for your ‘head’ – excellent!! – the HES readership could double with the right management of this. </p>
<p>Alas, Bolt &amp; Blair are just mine hosts for skanky blog taverns (dank surrounds, watered down threads, badly cut opinions), but sadly, not enough influence to create a front-page gate. </p>
<p>But just imagine a fully formed Rag-gate! You’d have to remodel the fourth quarter forecasts for LP advert revenues.</p>
<p>And have an opinion piece ready &#8211; Is biting the hand that feeds it un-The Australian? </p>
<p>Taking coin from Rupert? Way smarter than giving him yours.</p>
<p>Get as many sackfuls as you can. Or hankies full.</p>
<p>You’ll be breaking even on GG’s at some point. Not many can say they are ahead on News.</p>
<p>As for gandhi, if he thought about what he wrote on his blog, instead of just writing it….from his own keypad: </p>
<p>“At one stage last year I decided to totally boycott the Murdoch media and not even read their stories, let alone link to them. But it proved impossible to continue blogging about Australian politics while doing so, because the Murdoch team was actually creating much of the news (Newspoll is only the most obvious example). Another big problem with a boycott is that Murdoch owns so many bloody media outlets.” </p>
<p>Yes, cloven hooves are rubbed together every time you link to a News site, gandhi, and you’ll be needing a new bottle of windex to polish up the glasshouse.</p>
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		<title>By: Jane</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Apr 2008 06:21:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mark, how dare you put pedestrian matters like eating, paying the bills and putting a roof over your head compromise your ideals? Back to your garret, sir.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark, how dare you put pedestrian matters like eating, paying the bills and putting a roof over your head compromise your ideals? Back to your garret, sir.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Apr 2008 04:51:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Teehee!

Btw, I&#039;ve just responded to some of the comments on the Higher Ed thread.

http://blogs.theaustralian.news.com.au/markbahnisch/index.php/theaustralian/comments/partisan_nonsense_obscures_sensible_debate/

&lt;b&gt;I haz bolding!&lt;/b&gt;

They seriously need some decent blogging software!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Teehee!</p>
<p>Btw, I&#8217;ve just responded to some of the comments on the Higher Ed thread.</p>
<p><a href="http://blogs.theaustralian.news.com.au/markbahnisch/index.php/theaustralian/comments/partisan_nonsense_obscures_sensible_debate/" rel="nofollow">http://blogs.theaustralian.news.com.au/markbahnisch/index.php/theaustralian/comments/partisan_nonsense_obscures_sensible_debate/</a></p>
<p><b>I haz bolding!</b></p>
<p>They seriously need some decent blogging software!</p>
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		<title>By: Lefty E</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/04/04/students-against-academic-freedom/comment-page-2/#comment-454408</link>
		<dc:creator>Lefty E</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Apr 2008 04:24:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>heheeee, FDB.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>heheeee, FDB.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Burns</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/04/04/students-against-academic-freedom/comment-page-2/#comment-454407</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Burns</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Apr 2008 04:19:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mark,
Re keyboards. Yeah, I know. I haven&#039;t got around to it and I&#039;ve been touch typing since I was 10 so its not really a bother.Thanks, anyway.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark,<br />
Re keyboards. Yeah, I know. I haven&#8217;t got around to it and I&#8217;ve been touch typing since I was 10 so its not really a bother.Thanks, anyway.</p>
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		<title>By: FDB</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/04/04/students-against-academic-freedom/comment-page-2/#comment-454406</link>
		<dc:creator>FDB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Apr 2008 04:14:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Okay LE, in the spirit of full disclosure, I believe my full-time volunteer work here at the North Carlton Carbon-Neutral Refugee Resource Centre and Home for Frightened Puppies gives me carte blanche to sit comfortably in judgement over Mark&#039;s decision to become a hireling of Big Info.

He thinks he can put out his cigar in single mothers&#039; eye-sockets for Rupert&#039;s filthy money and just get away with it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay LE, in the spirit of full disclosure, I believe my full-time volunteer work here at the North Carlton Carbon-Neutral Refugee Resource Centre and Home for Frightened Puppies gives me carte blanche to sit comfortably in judgement over Mark&#8217;s decision to become a hireling of Big Info.</p>
<p>He thinks he can put out his cigar in single mothers&#8217; eye-sockets for Rupert&#8217;s filthy money and just get away with it?</p>
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		<title>By: Lefty E</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/04/04/students-against-academic-freedom/comment-page-2/#comment-454401</link>
		<dc:creator>Lefty E</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Apr 2008 04:00:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, I might add: when I launched the historic &#039;Government Gazette&#039; attack last year (then taken over by far better critics than I) it wasn&#039;t actually because of some vulgar &quot;Rupe is teh class enemy 4 eva&quot; tilt, but to highlight the lack of diversity of views in that rag, in a historically critical pre-election climate. 

I can&#039;t for the life of me see what the problemo is here: I&#039;m glad Mark will be writing for it.

And personally, I feel if pseudonymous critics wanna have a go, they should first ought feel obliged to disclose every source of income they enjoy...

Lets apply a bit of scrutiny, hmmm? Just cos you&#039;re doing wholly unremarkable things out of the public limelight, doesn&#039;t mean you get get a different standard ... does it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, I might add: when I launched the historic &#8216;Government Gazette&#8217; attack last year (then taken over by far better critics than I) it wasn&#8217;t actually because of some vulgar &#8220;Rupe is teh class enemy 4 eva&#8221; tilt, but to highlight the lack of diversity of views in that rag, in a historically critical pre-election climate. </p>
<p>I can&#8217;t for the life of me see what the problemo is here: I&#8217;m glad Mark will be writing for it.</p>
<p>And personally, I feel if pseudonymous critics wanna have a go, they should first ought feel obliged to disclose every source of income they enjoy&#8230;</p>
<p>Lets apply a bit of scrutiny, hmmm? Just cos you&#8217;re doing wholly unremarkable things out of the public limelight, doesn&#8217;t mean you get get a different standard &#8230; does it?</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Apr 2008 03:56:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Paul, keyboards are pretty inexpensive now. You should be able to get one for 20 bucks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paul, keyboards are pretty inexpensive now. You should be able to get one for 20 bucks.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Burns</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/04/04/students-against-academic-freedom/comment-page-2/#comment-454398</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Burns</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Apr 2008 03:41:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Helen, I know. I don&#039;t have good eyesight and the letters have worn off a lot of my keypad. But I manage.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Helen, I know. I don&#8217;t have good eyesight and the letters have worn off a lot of my keypad. But I manage.</p>
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