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	<title>Comments on: Going nowhere</title>
	<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/04/22/going-nowhere/</link>
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	<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 00:52:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: jane</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/04/22/going-nowhere/#comment-459524</link>
		<dc:creator>jane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2008 01:44:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/04/22/going-nowhere/#comment-459524</guid>
		<description>Nabs, I must admit to a preference for cooked chalce, with or without venom glands. Can I keep the plumber on standby, there's never one when you need him/her?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nabs, I must admit to a preference for cooked chalce, with or without venom glands. Can I keep the plumber on standby, there&#8217;s never one when you need him/her?</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Norton</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/04/22/going-nowhere/#comment-459507</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Norton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2008 01:01:10 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/04/22/going-nowhere/#comment-459507</guid>
		<description>The rider is rock musician Sarah McLeod, whose penchant for noise-making machinery extends to a Gibson SG guitar through a Marshall amp.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The rider is rock musician Sarah McLeod, whose penchant for noise-making machinery extends to a Gibson SG guitar through a Marshall amp.</p>
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		<title>By: darin</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/04/22/going-nowhere/#comment-459384</link>
		<dc:creator>darin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Apr 2008 10:42:37 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/04/22/going-nowhere/#comment-459384</guid>
		<description>..and riding a Ducati... Nice taste.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>..and riding a Ducati&#8230; Nice taste.</p>
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		<title>By: pre-dawn leftist</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/04/22/going-nowhere/#comment-459382</link>
		<dc:creator>pre-dawn leftist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Apr 2008 10:30:29 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/04/22/going-nowhere/#comment-459382</guid>
		<description>Back to Brendan "Nowhere Man" Nelson and the motorcycle above - who's the rider?  Looks like a hottie!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Back to Brendan &#8220;Nowhere Man&#8221; Nelson and the motorcycle above - who&#8217;s the rider?  Looks like a hottie!</p>
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		<title>By: Ambigulous</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/04/22/going-nowhere/#comment-459327</link>
		<dc:creator>Ambigulous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Apr 2008 06:37:53 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/04/22/going-nowhere/#comment-459327</guid>
		<description>Ah, Mug Punter, that's a risky tactic isn't it? Have you put money on it? Dolly gave up the Leadership never to return.... the only Liberal returnees I can recall are Andrew Peacock and John Howard.... and perhaps Bob Menzies back in the 40's?

Hmmmmm, it's looking quite a good tactic if past practice is a guide...

But then on the Labor side, Kim Beazley never looked good.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, Mug Punter, that&#8217;s a risky tactic isn&#8217;t it? Have you put money on it? Dolly gave up the Leadership never to return&#8230;. the only Liberal returnees I can recall are Andrew Peacock and John Howard&#8230;. and perhaps Bob Menzies back in the 40&#8217;s?</p>
<p>Hmmmmm, it&#8217;s looking quite a good tactic if past practice is a guide&#8230;</p>
<p>But then on the Labor side, Kim Beazley never looked good.</p>
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		<title>By: Mug Punter</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/04/22/going-nowhere/#comment-459321</link>
		<dc:creator>Mug Punter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Apr 2008 06:28:30 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/04/22/going-nowhere/#comment-459321</guid>
		<description>I imagine Nelson's strategy in taking up the poison chalice straight afer the election is to 'lose' the leadership after a year or so, become a well known face, and attempt a comeback 12 months before the election after next.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I imagine Nelson&#8217;s strategy in taking up the poison chalice straight afer the election is to &#8216;lose&#8217; the leadership after a year or so, become a well known face, and attempt a comeback 12 months before the election after next.</p>
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		<title>By: joe2</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/04/22/going-nowhere/#comment-459190</link>
		<dc:creator>joe2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Apr 2008 01:03:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/04/22/going-nowhere/#comment-459190</guid>
		<description>"Coalition voters prefer…. Costello!!!"

It will be interesting to see if they still love him once his much awaited book of memoirs comes out. He has just signed the deal. One wit on talk back radio suggested the title should be "Number Twos".</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Coalition voters prefer…. Costello!!!&#8221;</p>
<p>It will be interesting to see if they still love him once his much awaited book of memoirs comes out. He has just signed the deal. One wit on talk back radio suggested the title should be &#8220;Number Twos&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/04/22/going-nowhere/#comment-459182</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Apr 2008 00:49:14 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/04/22/going-nowhere/#comment-459182</guid>
		<description>But he'll be busy writing his memoirs:

http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/04/22/the-costello-diaries/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But he&#8217;ll be busy writing his memoirs:</p>
<p><a href="http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/04/22/the-costello-diaries/" rel="nofollow">http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/04/22/the-costello-diaries/</a></p>
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		<title>By: FDB</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/04/22/going-nowhere/#comment-459181</link>
		<dc:creator>FDB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Apr 2008 00:49:02 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/04/22/going-nowhere/#comment-459181</guid>
		<description>Mark - that is priceless.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark - that is priceless.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/04/22/going-nowhere/#comment-459178</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Apr 2008 00:30:59 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/04/22/going-nowhere/#comment-459178</guid>
		<description>It's out.

Coalition voters prefer.... Costello!!!

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,23578256-601,00.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s out.</p>
<p>Coalition voters prefer&#8230;. Costello!!!</p>
<p><a href="http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,23578256-601,00.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,23578256-601,00.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Paul Burns</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/04/22/going-nowhere/#comment-459174</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Burns</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Apr 2008 00:19:04 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/04/22/going-nowhere/#comment-459174</guid>
		<description>I thought Dolly's hissy fit at the ACM dinner yesterday was much more instructive. Almost everything the Libs did in the past eleven years is being undone and thry know it. Trouble is, its going to take a bit more than a 20/20 Summit to repair the ravages of the Howard years.( Though I did comr to really love that Summit despiter much initial cynicism and skepticism).
The poll on preferred party leader might start some ructions, though. I want Bumbles to stay. At the risk of the futrure proving me wrong, he's a loser. The 2 point improvement was for ATTENDING the Summit, I suppose?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought Dolly&#8217;s hissy fit at the ACM dinner yesterday was much more instructive. Almost everything the Libs did in the past eleven years is being undone and thry know it. Trouble is, its going to take a bit more than a 20/20 Summit to repair the ravages of the Howard years.( Though I did comr to really love that Summit despiter much initial cynicism and skepticism).<br />
The poll on preferred party leader might start some ructions, though. I want Bumbles to stay. At the risk of the futrure proving me wrong, he&#8217;s a loser. The 2 point improvement was for ATTENDING the Summit, I suppose?</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Norton</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/04/22/going-nowhere/#comment-459162</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Norton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 23:27:46 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/04/22/going-nowhere/#comment-459162</guid>
		<description>Is the photo of Brendan riding pillion, at an event to promote road safety, with a driver who was pinged for drink driving not long afterwards a metaphor for his Liberal Party leadership on the sufferance of the party's right wing?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is the photo of Brendan riding pillion, at an event to promote road safety, with a driver who was pinged for drink driving not long afterwards a metaphor for his Liberal Party leadership on the sufferance of the party&#8217;s right wing?</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Merkel</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/04/22/going-nowhere/#comment-459138</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Merkel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 20:44:04 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/04/22/going-nowhere/#comment-459138</guid>
		<description>It\s one of his redeemding features...

Seriously, the focus on long-term planning is great, tactically, for Labor, as well as being a mostly good idea.

While the last years of the Howard government were an extreme example, the left of politics is always going to be better at grand plans for the future, in large part because we believe in the concept.

While the right's philosophical case for not liking central, overly detailed long-term planning is not entirely meritless (for instance, it's one I strongly support whenever people start proposing mandating specific technological measures to reduce greenhouse emissions), it's a difficult political case to make.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It\s one of his redeemding features&#8230;</p>
<p>Seriously, the focus on long-term planning is great, tactically, for Labor, as well as being a mostly good idea.</p>
<p>While the last years of the Howard government were an extreme example, the left of politics is always going to be better at grand plans for the future, in large part because we believe in the concept.</p>
<p>While the right&#8217;s philosophical case for not liking central, overly detailed long-term planning is not entirely meritless (for instance, it&#8217;s one I strongly support whenever people start proposing mandating specific technological measures to reduce greenhouse emissions), it&#8217;s a difficult political case to make.</p>
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		<title>By: MH</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/04/22/going-nowhere/#comment-459109</link>
		<dc:creator>MH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 17:58:49 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/04/22/going-nowhere/#comment-459109</guid>
		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;To be fair, you should point that photo of Brendan was taken two years ago when he was doing a photo op as Defence Minister for some ADF bike safety awareness campaign.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

And Nelson is a long-time motorcyclist, from back in the days in the AMA.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>To be fair, you should point that photo of Brendan was taken two years ago when he was doing a photo op as Defence Minister for some ADF bike safety awareness campaign.</p></blockquote>
<p>And Nelson is a long-time motorcyclist, from back in the days in the AMA.</p>
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		<title>By: Nabakov</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/04/22/going-nowhere/#comment-459100</link>
		<dc:creator>Nabakov</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 16:40:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/04/22/going-nowhere/#comment-459100</guid>
		<description>"Sorry, I believe the word is chalice."

Clearly you've never eaten raw chalce with the venom glands removed by highly-trained plumbers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Sorry, I believe the word is chalice.&#8221;</p>
<p>Clearly you&#8217;ve never eaten raw chalce with the venom glands removed by highly-trained plumbers.</p>
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		<title>By: Nabakov</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/04/22/going-nowhere/#comment-459099</link>
		<dc:creator>Nabakov</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 16:35:40 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/04/22/going-nowhere/#comment-459099</guid>
		<description>To be fair, you should point that photo of Brendan was taken two years ago when he was doing a photo op as Defence Minister for some ADF bike safety awareness campaign. (Why yes, even Coalition pollies have been known to do the odd symbolic publicity stunt from time to time.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To be fair, you should point that photo of Brendan was taken two years ago when he was doing a photo op as Defence Minister for some ADF bike safety awareness campaign. (Why yes, even Coalition pollies have been known to do the odd symbolic publicity stunt from time to time.)</p>
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		<title>By: jane</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/04/22/going-nowhere/#comment-459096</link>
		<dc:creator>jane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 16:24:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/04/22/going-nowhere/#comment-459096</guid>
		<description>Sorry, I believe the word is chalice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, I believe the word is chalice.</p>
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		<title>By: jane</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/04/22/going-nowhere/#comment-459095</link>
		<dc:creator>jane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 16:23:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/04/22/going-nowhere/#comment-459095</guid>
		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;It may not be the common wisdom but it’s certainly possible Nelson will still be Liberal leader after July, because more Liberals may come to realise they have to stop fighting over &lt;strong&gt;an empty prize,&lt;/strong&gt; just as they did for the last year of government, and face Rudd, the real problem, with new policies.&lt;/blockquote&gt; My emphasis.

Wouldn't it be more accurately described as a poisoned chalce?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>It may not be the common wisdom but it’s certainly possible Nelson will still be Liberal leader after July, because more Liberals may come to realise they have to stop fighting over <strong>an empty prize,</strong> just as they did for the last year of government, and face Rudd, the real problem, with new policies.</p></blockquote>
<p> My emphasis.</p>
<p>Wouldn&#8217;t it be more accurately described as a poisoned chalce?</p>
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		<title>By: Mercurius</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/04/22/going-nowhere/#comment-459089</link>
		<dc:creator>Mercurius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 15:09:06 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/04/22/going-nowhere/#comment-459089</guid>
		<description>Look up any psychology textbook for the entry on "mid-life crisis".

That photo is there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Look up any psychology textbook for the entry on &#8220;mid-life crisis&#8221;.</p>
<p>That photo is there.</p>
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