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	<title>Comments on: He&#8217;ll never be an old man Jock&#8230;</title>
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		<title>By: wilful</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/05/07/hell-never-be-an-old-man-jock/#comment-465228</link>
		<dc:creator>wilful</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 07:27:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Feral at 24, I think the pseudonym offered for the gig was 'mist'. Yet another awesome gig.

Took a japanese friend to a tism gig a few years ago. She could hardly speak for a few days after that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Feral at 24, I think the pseudonym offered for the gig was &#8216;mist&#8217;. Yet another awesome gig.</p>
<p>Took a japanese friend to a tism gig a few years ago. She could hardly speak for a few days after that.</p>
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		<title>By: Aussie Oskar</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/05/07/hell-never-be-an-old-man-jock/#comment-465063</link>
		<dc:creator>Aussie Oskar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 23:28:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My memory of TISM was a support they did to some big name international act at The Palace in St. Kilda in the mid-80s. That period was not particularly kind to my quota of brain cells and when push comes to shove, the identity of the headline act seems to have left the building. The Cult, perhaps?

But what is burned strongly onto my memory is that the entire TISM set was accompanied by a full wedding reception taking place on stage behind the band. Long table, 3-story cake, bride, groom, bridesmaids and best men, all fully dolled up and nodding politely to one another. The utter banality of it all was spectacular and the contrast with the manic writhing taking place in front was sheer poetry. Not many bands ever imagined operating on that plane. They were a one-off.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My memory of TISM was a support they did to some big name international act at The Palace in St. Kilda in the mid-80s. That period was not particularly kind to my quota of brain cells and when push comes to shove, the identity of the headline act seems to have left the building. The Cult, perhaps?</p>
<p>But what is burned strongly onto my memory is that the entire TISM set was accompanied by a full wedding reception taking place on stage behind the band. Long table, 3-story cake, bride, groom, bridesmaids and best men, all fully dolled up and nodding politely to one another. The utter banality of it all was spectacular and the contrast with the manic writhing taking place in front was sheer poetry. Not many bands ever imagined operating on that plane. They were a one-off.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/05/07/hell-never-be-an-old-man-jock/#comment-465053</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 22:31:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is sad news. Seeing the youtube video bought back many memories of the several times I managed to see tism. 

The nude cricket playing on stage at glenworth (it was a hot day!)

Funky light suits at BDO

And I think they had red dragon suits at a homebake.

The big signs before every song.

My condolences to Jock's family. His music touched a large number of people, and made them smile.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is sad news. Seeing the youtube video bought back many memories of the several times I managed to see tism. </p>
<p>The nude cricket playing on stage at glenworth (it was a hot day!)</p>
<p>Funky light suits at BDO</p>
<p>And I think they had red dragon suits at a homebake.</p>
<p>The big signs before every song.</p>
<p>My condolences to Jock&#8217;s family. His music touched a large number of people, and made them smile.</p>
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		<title>By: Jacques de Molay</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/05/07/hell-never-be-an-old-man-jock/#comment-465044</link>
		<dc:creator>Jacques de Molay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 20:04:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A truly great band. I only ever got to see them live once and that was in '98 on their Caveat Emptour with Regurgitator and The Fauves. The album they were promoting 'www.tism.wanker.com' is in my opinion one of their best and was to be their last relevant album. 

I'm sure Jock would be smirking and appreciating that TISM staple '40 Years-Then Death' right about now. I still say 'Saturday Night Palsy' is one of the best songs they wrote but perhaps none more fitting for Jock than that B-side on the 'Yob' single, 'The Last Australian Guitar Hero'.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A truly great band. I only ever got to see them live once and that was in &#8216;98 on their Caveat Emptour with Regurgitator and The Fauves. The album they were promoting &#8216;www.tism.wanker.com&#8217; is in my opinion one of their best and was to be their last relevant album. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure Jock would be smirking and appreciating that TISM staple &#8216;40 Years-Then Death&#8217; right about now. I still say &#8216;Saturday Night Palsy&#8217; is one of the best songs they wrote but perhaps none more fitting for Jock than that B-side on the &#8216;Yob&#8217; single, &#8216;The Last Australian Guitar Hero&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: feral sparrowhawk</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/05/07/hell-never-be-an-old-man-jock/#comment-464884</link>
		<dc:creator>feral sparrowhawk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 04:47:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In early nineties the house of the much loved President of the Monash Student Association burnt down and she was trapped inside. For six weeks (from memory) the doctors were not sure she was going to make it.

Some friends of hers organised a benefit concert, partly to raise money for anything she might need, but mostly because it was the only thing they could think of to do. Most of the acts were small Melbourne bands who were friends, or friends of friends of hers. However, after the gig was organised TISM contacted the venue about doing a secret gig to try out their new material. It was a perfect fit and they were slotted onto the line-up under some pseudonym (although word got around).

Ironically, given the cause, the attendance would have been close to double the firelimit, so in a seething mass of far too many people, many light-headed at the news that Janoel would make a full recovery I was one of the first witnesses to a live performance of the song Robert posted, along with quite a few others. Truly an experience to treasure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In early nineties the house of the much loved President of the Monash Student Association burnt down and she was trapped inside. For six weeks (from memory) the doctors were not sure she was going to make it.</p>
<p>Some friends of hers organised a benefit concert, partly to raise money for anything she might need, but mostly because it was the only thing they could think of to do. Most of the acts were small Melbourne bands who were friends, or friends of friends of hers. However, after the gig was organised TISM contacted the venue about doing a secret gig to try out their new material. It was a perfect fit and they were slotted onto the line-up under some pseudonym (although word got around).</p>
<p>Ironically, given the cause, the attendance would have been close to double the firelimit, so in a seething mass of far too many people, many light-headed at the news that Janoel would make a full recovery I was one of the first witnesses to a live performance of the song Robert posted, along with quite a few others. Truly an experience to treasure.</p>
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		<title>By: FDB</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/05/07/hell-never-be-an-old-man-jock/#comment-464860</link>
		<dc:creator>FDB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 02:46:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I played a couple of shows supporting them in Perth with one of my old bands. Very nice chaps with a jolly fine rider they were too.

A ex-bandmate was recruited to mime keyboards as a band member for the previous tour of the West - apparently this was quite common - it was mostly just ADAT playback for lots of shows, with some live guitar and vocals.

Anyway, vale Jock. He's defecating on angels now...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I played a couple of shows supporting them in Perth with one of my old bands. Very nice chaps with a jolly fine rider they were too.</p>
<p>A ex-bandmate was recruited to mime keyboards as a band member for the previous tour of the West - apparently this was quite common - it was mostly just ADAT playback for lots of shows, with some live guitar and vocals.</p>
<p>Anyway, vale Jock. He&#8217;s defecating on angels now&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Sam Clifford</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/05/07/hell-never-be-an-old-man-jock/#comment-464830</link>
		<dc:creator>Sam Clifford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 01:12:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TISM are shit (but who the fuck isn't?)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TISM are shit (but who the fuck isn&#8217;t?)</p>
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		<title>By: Kim</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/05/07/hell-never-be-an-old-man-jock/#comment-464774</link>
		<dc:creator>Kim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2008 23:53:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Helen!</description>
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		<title>By: Rayedish</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/05/07/hell-never-be-an-old-man-jock/#comment-464765</link>
		<dc:creator>Rayedish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2008 23:23:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>mister Z, i think I was at the same gig, 'cos that's my memory of  TISM and I had been wanting to see them for years. When I was in highschool (back when you would sneak your music in on disc mans) they seemed to me to be one of the few bands out with a sense of humour who weren't taking life seriously (whatever their named claimed).  When I first heard 'There'll never be an old man river' I was torn been hysterics and scandalisation, ahh those days when I was a proper young catholic school girl.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>mister Z, i think I was at the same gig, &#8216;cos that&#8217;s my memory of  TISM and I had been wanting to see them for years. When I was in highschool (back when you would sneak your music in on disc mans) they seemed to me to be one of the few bands out with a sense of humour who weren&#8217;t taking life seriously (whatever their named claimed).  When I first heard &#8216;There&#8217;ll never be an old man river&#8217; I was torn been hysterics and scandalisation, ahh those days when I was a proper young catholic school girl.</p>
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		<title>By: Down and Out of Sài Gòn</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/05/07/hell-never-be-an-old-man-jock/#comment-464761</link>
		<dc:creator>Down and Out of Sài Gòn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2008 23:13:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;I saw them around ‘93 at the club in the bottom of the myer centre in Brisbane.&lt;/i&gt;

I remember that night - one of Ron Hitler-Barassi's better on-stage rants (concerning corruption), set to:

&lt;i&gt;Russ Hinze's body lies a-rotting in his grave.
But Queensland goes marching on.&lt;/i&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>I saw them around ‘93 at the club in the bottom of the myer centre in Brisbane.</i></p>
<p>I remember that night - one of Ron Hitler-Barassi&#8217;s better on-stage rants (concerning corruption), set to:</p>
<p><i>Russ Hinze&#8217;s body lies a-rotting in his grave.<br />
But Queensland goes marching on.</i></p>
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		<title>By: Helen</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/05/07/hell-never-be-an-old-man-jock/#comment-464750</link>
		<dc:creator>Helen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2008 22:25:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Happy Birthday Kim!

And yes I was sad to read of Paull's death yesterday. Nabs, Buick KBT supported TISM at the Old Greek, but it would have been around mid-80s rather than late 80s? I think Blue Ruin may also have been involved? Must try and check. 

They were a pain to support, because of the anonymity thing, backstage was off limits!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Happy Birthday Kim!</p>
<p>And yes I was sad to read of Paull&#8217;s death yesterday. Nabs, Buick KBT supported TISM at the Old Greek, but it would have been around mid-80s rather than late 80s? I think Blue Ruin may also have been involved? Must try and check. </p>
<p>They were a pain to support, because of the anonymity thing, backstage was off limits!</p>
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		<title>By: Tony of South Yarra</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/05/07/hell-never-be-an-old-man-jock/#comment-464747</link>
		<dc:creator>Tony of South Yarra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2008 21:52:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for that Robert. James Paull has a myspace music page &lt;a href="http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&#38;friendID=91999788" rel="nofollow"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt; with a selection of his non-TISM music.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for that Robert. James Paull has a myspace music page <a href="http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&amp;friendID=91999788" rel="nofollow">here</a> with a selection of his non-TISM music.</p>
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		<title>By: brisvegas</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/05/07/hell-never-be-an-old-man-jock/#comment-464736</link>
		<dc:creator>brisvegas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2008 20:31:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I saw them around '93 at the club in the bottom of the myer centre in Brisbane. Then again at the first BDO at the Gold Coast.

The BDO show was at 3:30 in the afternoon. Stinking Qld humidity up to my ankles in mud.

Recently I got their live DVD to relive the glory days. In memory of Jock, next time I'm in Melbourne I'm going to do a left hand turn at Springvale Rd/Frankston Rd intersection.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I saw them around &#8216;93 at the club in the bottom of the myer centre in Brisbane. Then again at the first BDO at the Gold Coast.</p>
<p>The BDO show was at 3:30 in the afternoon. Stinking Qld humidity up to my ankles in mud.</p>
<p>Recently I got their live DVD to relive the glory days. In memory of Jock, next time I&#8217;m in Melbourne I&#8217;m going to do a left hand turn at Springvale Rd/Frankston Rd intersection.</p>
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		<title>By: Kim</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/05/07/hell-never-be-an-old-man-jock/#comment-464703</link>
		<dc:creator>Kim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2008 14:42:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ZZZ!</description>
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		<title>By: sublime cowgirl</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/05/07/hell-never-be-an-old-man-jock/#comment-464701</link>
		<dc:creator>sublime cowgirl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2008 14:35:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At least y'all had FM radio in the eighties in Brisbane ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At least y&#8217;all had FM radio in the eighties in Brisbane <img src='http://larvatusprodeo.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Kim</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/05/07/hell-never-be-an-old-man-jock/#comment-464695</link>
		<dc:creator>Kim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2008 14:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;a one joke act like Devo&lt;/blockquote&gt;

There are at least two Devo joke acts!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Devo_2.0</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>a one joke act like Devo</p></blockquote>
<p>There are at least two Devo joke acts!</p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Devo_2.0" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Devo_2.0</a></p>
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		<title>By: Kim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2008 14:05:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah ok, I was born in 73.

Just quietly, I had a birthday on Friday. I'm 35! OMG!

&lt;blockquote&gt;Hang out at the mobil service station with the Torana boys?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Are you assuming the options in Brissie were any wider at the time? ;) I first hit The Beat when I was 15, I think! More fun than the servo or the skatin rink!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah ok, I was born in 73.</p>
<p>Just quietly, I had a birthday on Friday. I&#8217;m 35! OMG!</p>
<blockquote><p>Hang out at the mobil service station with the Torana boys?</p></blockquote>
<p>Are you assuming the options in Brissie were any wider at the time? <img src='http://larvatusprodeo.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> I first hit The Beat when I was 15, I think! More fun than the servo or the skatin rink!</p>
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		<title>By: Nabakov</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/05/07/hell-never-be-an-old-man-jock/#comment-464689</link>
		<dc:creator>Nabakov</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2008 14:04:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some more TISM nuggets
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fv59ABtcLDM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hSTm9aititM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=phuaH2gE2WM

and the one started it all, overwhelmingly voted best new act in a nationwide poll conducted by JJJ  in 1986.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6pd_xCURto8
A provocative study of the analism inherent in Fascism, set to a killer beat.

What lifted and separated them from being a one joke act like Devo was some seriously barbed, lovingly localised yet universally pungent observations. And better musicianship.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some more TISM nuggets<br />
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fv59ABtcLDM" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fv59ABtcLDM</a><br />
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hSTm9aititM" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hSTm9aititM</a><br />
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=phuaH2gE2WM" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=phuaH2gE2WM</a></p>
<p>and the one started it all, overwhelmingly voted best new act in a nationwide poll conducted by JJJ  in 1986.<br />
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6pd_xCURto8" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6pd_xCURto8</a><br />
A provocative study of the analism inherent in Fascism, set to a killer beat.</p>
<p>What lifted and separated them from being a one joke act like Devo was some seriously barbed, lovingly localised yet universally pungent observations. And better musicianship.</p>
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		<title>By: sublime cowgirl</title>
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		<dc:creator>sublime cowgirl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2008 14:03:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Born in 72.  (Qld let 4 yo's start year one provided they turned 5 by end of Feb back then).  Had a 4 year degree and a job by 20. 

Oh i was a pretty good baptist girl from Rocky in first year.  Oddly enough I'd been going out to clubs since i was 14 (can you imagine that now?).  Even my very conservative christian mother didn't mind as long as the older 'youth group' boys looked after me.  What else was there to do in Rockhampton in the eighties after watching Brat pack movies ?  Hang out at the mobil service station with the Torana boys?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Born in 72.  (Qld let 4 yo&#8217;s start year one provided they turned 5 by end of Feb back then).  Had a 4 year degree and a job by 20. </p>
<p>Oh i was a pretty good baptist girl from Rocky in first year.  Oddly enough I&#8217;d been going out to clubs since i was 14 (can you imagine that now?).  Even my very conservative christian mother didn&#8217;t mind as long as the older &#8216;youth group&#8217; boys looked after me.  What else was there to do in Rockhampton in the eighties after watching Brat pack movies ?  Hang out at the mobil service station with the Torana boys?</p>
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		<title>By: Kim</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/05/07/hell-never-be-an-old-man-jock/#comment-464674</link>
		<dc:creator>Kim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2008 13:42:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We must be the same age, sc! I was 16 in 89. Not at uni though.

I hope you stayed away from the Rec Club til second year! I wouldn't want to have to start a retrospective moral panic about underage female yoof drinking! ;)</description>
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<p>I hope you stayed away from the Rec Club til second year! I wouldn&#8217;t want to have to start a retrospective moral panic about underage female yoof drinking! <img src='http://larvatusprodeo.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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