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	<title>Comments on: Liveblogging Budget 2008</title>
	<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/05/13/liveblogging-budget-2008/</link>
	<description>Blogging politics, culture, sociology and life from Brisvegas</description>
	<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 15:28:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: David Rubie</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/05/13/liveblogging-budget-2008/#comment-466652</link>
		<dc:creator>David Rubie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 23:18:35 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/05/13/liveblogging-budget-2008/#comment-466652</guid>
		<description>Darlene,

We probably qualify as a "working family" but because we avoid using child care and have only one paying job, a lot of the "working family" largesse passes us by (other than the stupidity of family tax benefits).  It seems like a pretty narrow definition when you look at it that way, so don't feel too hard done by.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Darlene,</p>
<p>We probably qualify as a &#8220;working family&#8221; but because we avoid using child care and have only one paying job, a lot of the &#8220;working family&#8221; largesse passes us by (other than the stupidity of family tax benefits).  It seems like a pretty narrow definition when you look at it that way, so don&#8217;t feel too hard done by.</p>
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		<title>By: Darlene</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/05/13/liveblogging-budget-2008/#comment-466648</link>
		<dc:creator>Darlene</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 23:03:15 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/05/13/liveblogging-budget-2008/#comment-466648</guid>
		<description>Was there anything in the budget for me?????

Am I a "working family", "working family", "working family"?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Was there anything in the budget for me?????</p>
<p>Am I a &#8220;working family&#8221;, &#8220;working family&#8221;, &#8220;working family&#8221;?</p>
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		<title>By: Mercurius</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/05/13/liveblogging-budget-2008/#comment-466629</link>
		<dc:creator>Mercurius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 20:38:20 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/05/13/liveblogging-budget-2008/#comment-466629</guid>
		<description>Amanda, &lt;em&gt;Abraham Lincoln&lt;/em&gt; isn't the guy you'd pick to deliver Gettysburg, either! I'd go for something in a (young, buff) Marlon Brando, a Charlton Heston circa 1996 in Kenneth Branagh's&lt;em&gt;Hamlet&lt;/em&gt;, or perhaps even...Obama?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amanda, <em>Abraham Lincoln</em> isn&#8217;t the guy you&#8217;d pick to deliver Gettysburg, either! I&#8217;d go for something in a (young, buff) Marlon Brando, a Charlton Heston circa 1996 in Kenneth Branagh&#8217;s<em>Hamlet</em>, or perhaps even&#8230;Obama?</p>
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		<title>By: Amanda</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/05/13/liveblogging-budget-2008/#comment-466624</link>
		<dc:creator>Amanda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 19:49:09 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/05/13/liveblogging-budget-2008/#comment-466624</guid>
		<description>&lt;em&gt;Meh. Every speech he’s ever given in the House, he’s been looking at his opponents.&lt;/em&gt;

Which is sort of the point, since none of those speeches were Teh Budget.   He has the rounds of the media immediately afterwards and this morning which is where the soundbites come from.   He's got half an hour, read the numbers however you want and get out of there.  He's not the bloke I'd tap on the shoulder to deliver Gettysburg sure but he never has been and who could have been expecting it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Meh. Every speech he’s ever given in the House, he’s been looking at his opponents.</em></p>
<p>Which is sort of the point, since none of those speeches were Teh Budget.   He has the rounds of the media immediately afterwards and this morning which is where the soundbites come from.   He&#8217;s got half an hour, read the numbers however you want and get out of there.  He&#8217;s not the bloke I&#8217;d tap on the shoulder to deliver Gettysburg sure but he never has been and who could have been expecting it?</p>
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		<title>By: steve</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/05/13/liveblogging-budget-2008/#comment-466558</link>
		<dc:creator>steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 12:28:15 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/05/13/liveblogging-budget-2008/#comment-466558</guid>
		<description>Just looking at the education component of the budget: Nurses, maths and science students seem to be getting money thrown at them.

http://www.budget.gov.au/2008-09/content/ministerial_statements/html/education-03.htm#P129_13602</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just looking at the education component of the budget: Nurses, maths and science students seem to be getting money thrown at them.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.budget.gov.au/2008-09/content/ministerial_statements/html/education-03.htm#P129_13602" rel="nofollow">http://www.budget.gov.au/2008-09/content/ministerial_statements/html/education-03.htm#P129_13602</a></p>
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		<title>By: steve</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/05/13/liveblogging-budget-2008/#comment-466555</link>
		<dc:creator>steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 12:15:10 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/05/13/liveblogging-budget-2008/#comment-466555</guid>
		<description>Business has certainly not taken fright.

http://news.smh.com.au/business-groups-give-budget-thumbs-up/20080513-2ds2.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Business has certainly not taken fright.</p>
<p><a href="http://news.smh.com.au/business-groups-give-budget-thumbs-up/20080513-2ds2.html" rel="nofollow">http://news.smh.com.au/business-groups-give-budget-thumbs-up/20080513-2ds2.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: steve</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/05/13/liveblogging-budget-2008/#comment-466552</link>
		<dc:creator>steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 12:08:11 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/05/13/liveblogging-budget-2008/#comment-466552</guid>
		<description>Budget papers are here.

http://www.budget.gov.au/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Budget papers are here.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.budget.gov.au/" rel="nofollow">http://www.budget.gov.au/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/05/13/liveblogging-budget-2008/#comment-466542</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 11:23:27 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/05/13/liveblogging-budget-2008/#comment-466542</guid>
		<description>It seems there's an advantage to liveblogging from Brisbane rather than Parliament House. Crikey were told "electronic devices" weren't allowed in the chamber, and had to &lt;a href="http://www.crikey.com.au/Blogs/Budget-Nite-Live.html" rel="nofollow"&gt;deadblog&lt;/a&gt; the budget speech instead.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems there&#8217;s an advantage to liveblogging from Brisbane rather than Parliament House. Crikey were told &#8220;electronic devices&#8221; weren&#8217;t allowed in the chamber, and had to <a href="http://www.crikey.com.au/Blogs/Budget-Nite-Live.html" rel="nofollow">deadblog</a> the budget speech instead.</p>
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		<title>By: Maozze</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/05/13/liveblogging-budget-2008/#comment-466538</link>
		<dc:creator>Maozze</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 11:11:42 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/05/13/liveblogging-budget-2008/#comment-466538</guid>
		<description>By the deity of your choice, that was dull.

What happened to requirement for the Australian Treasurer to be snide and smug?  It was like your best friend's dad at their 21st birthday.  

Not as dull as Kerin or Howard, but on the shortlist.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By the deity of your choice, that was dull.</p>
<p>What happened to requirement for the Australian Treasurer to be snide and smug?  It was like your best friend&#8217;s dad at their 21st birthday.  </p>
<p>Not as dull as Kerin or Howard, but on the shortlist.</p>
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		<title>By: onimod</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/05/13/liveblogging-budget-2008/#comment-466536</link>
		<dc:creator>onimod</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 11:08:01 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/05/13/liveblogging-budget-2008/#comment-466536</guid>
		<description>16
It's Bishops hypnotic stare that I'd be avoiding</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>16<br />
It&#8217;s Bishops hypnotic stare that I&#8217;d be avoiding</p>
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		<title>By: Rebekka</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/05/13/liveblogging-budget-2008/#comment-466534</link>
		<dc:creator>Rebekka</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 11:03:13 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/05/13/liveblogging-budget-2008/#comment-466534</guid>
		<description>"Was Roxon wearing a noose-ette?"

Totally! It looked like she was going to hang herself afterwards - which considering the extra health spending is probably unnecessary!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Was Roxon wearing a noose-ette?&#8221;</p>
<p>Totally! It looked like she was going to hang herself afterwards - which considering the extra health spending is probably unnecessary!</p>
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		<title>By: Darryl Rosin</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/05/13/liveblogging-budget-2008/#comment-466519</link>
		<dc:creator>Darryl Rosin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 10:41:58 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/05/13/liveblogging-budget-2008/#comment-466519</guid>
		<description>@Amanda: "If he looks up, he’s looking at the Opposition"

Meh. Every speech he's ever given in the House, he's been looking at his opponents. He should be used to that by now. Besides, there's a camera pointing straight at him that's over Dr Brendo's right shoulder. If you're talking to the folk at home, you do it through that camera.

This speech is THE big set-piece in the Parliament, with a prepared speech that's been surely (or should have been) rehearsed to an inch of its life. I'm just surprised Swannie came out of the gate so weakly.

d</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Amanda: &#8220;If he looks up, he’s looking at the Opposition&#8221;</p>
<p>Meh. Every speech he&#8217;s ever given in the House, he&#8217;s been looking at his opponents. He should be used to that by now. Besides, there&#8217;s a camera pointing straight at him that&#8217;s over Dr Brendo&#8217;s right shoulder. If you&#8217;re talking to the folk at home, you do it through that camera.</p>
<p>This speech is THE big set-piece in the Parliament, with a prepared speech that&#8217;s been surely (or should have been) rehearsed to an inch of its life. I&#8217;m just surprised Swannie came out of the gate so weakly.</p>
<p>d</p>
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		<title>By: philiptravers</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/05/13/liveblogging-budget-2008/#comment-466517</link>
		<dc:creator>philiptravers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 10:28:33 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/05/13/liveblogging-budget-2008/#comment-466517</guid>
		<description>didn't hear it.Couldn't care less.Not alive to remember somebody's elses feeling they are doing much for others.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>didn&#8217;t hear it.Couldn&#8217;t care less.Not alive to remember somebody&#8217;s elses feeling they are doing much for others.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/05/13/liveblogging-budget-2008/#comment-466514</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 10:27:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/05/13/liveblogging-budget-2008/#comment-466514</guid>
		<description>Here's the insta-commentary from me!

http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/05/13/budget-politics-2008-style/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s the insta-commentary from me!</p>
<p><a href="http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/05/13/budget-politics-2008-style/" rel="nofollow">http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/05/13/budget-politics-2008-style/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Nick Caldwell</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/05/13/liveblogging-budget-2008/#comment-466513</link>
		<dc:creator>Nick Caldwell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 10:25:30 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/05/13/liveblogging-budget-2008/#comment-466513</guid>
		<description>The environmental stuff on first blush looks like deck-chair rearranging. Might it not be better to spend some more of that surplus to prevent a few major extinction events?

Funding a few more postgraduate scholarships seems a bit pointless if their departments can't afford to unlock the stationery cabinets for more than a couple of minutes a day.

OK, I'm coming down off the budget high now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The environmental stuff on first blush looks like deck-chair rearranging. Might it not be better to spend some more of that surplus to prevent a few major extinction events?</p>
<p>Funding a few more postgraduate scholarships seems a bit pointless if their departments can&#8217;t afford to unlock the stationery cabinets for more than a couple of minutes a day.</p>
<p>OK, I&#8217;m coming down off the budget high now.</p>
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		<title>By: Amanda</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/05/13/liveblogging-budget-2008/#comment-466510</link>
		<dc:creator>Amanda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 10:20:51 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/05/13/liveblogging-budget-2008/#comment-466510</guid>
		<description>&lt;em&gt;too much reading from the page and not looking up.&lt;/em&gt;

If he looks up, he's looking at the Opposition.  Eyeballing them is fine when you're having a shot but it's not the right vibe for a serious budget delivery. Talk about distracting, Brendan grinning manically away in your line of sight.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>too much reading from the page and not looking up.</em></p>
<p>If he looks up, he&#8217;s looking at the Opposition.  Eyeballing them is fine when you&#8217;re having a shot but it&#8217;s not the right vibe for a serious budget delivery. Talk about distracting, Brendan grinning manically away in your line of sight.</p>
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		<title>By: Lefty E</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/05/13/liveblogging-budget-2008/#comment-466509</link>
		<dc:creator>Lefty E</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 10:19:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/05/13/liveblogging-budget-2008/#comment-466509</guid>
		<description>Well, works for me. No surcharge, and 50% childcare rebate.

Not much for the libs either. Noone's going to get too riled about 150k+ earners beingf means tested.

Nonetheless, my prediction for the OZ headline"

"Swan Masterclasswar"</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, works for me. No surcharge, and 50% childcare rebate.</p>
<p>Not much for the libs either. Noone&#8217;s going to get too riled about 150k+ earners beingf means tested.</p>
<p>Nonetheless, my prediction for the OZ headline&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Swan Masterclasswar&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: danny</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/05/13/liveblogging-budget-2008/#comment-466508</link>
		<dc:creator>danny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 10:16:57 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/05/13/liveblogging-budget-2008/#comment-466508</guid>
		<description>Do your duty and get a premixed one: the doubling of PhD and masters scholarships are to be funded by alcopop taxes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do your duty and get a premixed one: the doubling of PhD and masters scholarships are to be funded by alcopop taxes.</p>
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		<title>By: Darryl Rosin</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/05/13/liveblogging-budget-2008/#comment-466505</link>
		<dc:creator>Darryl Rosin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 10:15:57 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/05/13/liveblogging-budget-2008/#comment-466505</guid>
		<description>He started to lift his game once he got onto Teh Fundz, and he finished strongly.

"he’s talking directly to the public and not to the media and the pundits... not trying to play to the gallery"

I get that and I agree, I'm just talking about the delivery of a prepared speech with highlights repeated on the news. I don't think he hit the highlights enough, too much reading from the page and not looking up. But I'm picky abut that sort of thing. :^)

d</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He started to lift his game once he got onto Teh Fundz, and he finished strongly.</p>
<p>&#8220;he’s talking directly to the public and not to the media and the pundits&#8230; not trying to play to the gallery&#8221;</p>
<p>I get that and I agree, I&#8217;m just talking about the delivery of a prepared speech with highlights repeated on the news. I don&#8217;t think he hit the highlights enough, too much reading from the page and not looking up. But I&#8217;m picky abut that sort of thing. :^)</p>
<p>d</p>
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		<title>By: Nick Caldwell</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/05/13/liveblogging-budget-2008/#comment-466503</link>
		<dc:creator>Nick Caldwell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 10:15:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/05/13/liveblogging-budget-2008/#comment-466503</guid>
		<description>LOL, Mark. Sorry for being on the cheeky side. I guess I'm responding to the vibe that this might be the most conceptually exciting Budget speech we've seen in, what, 13 years?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOL, Mark. Sorry for being on the cheeky side. I guess I&#8217;m responding to the vibe that this might be the most conceptually exciting Budget speech we&#8217;ve seen in, what, 13 years?</p>
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