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	<title>Comments on: Flight of the Conchords</title>
	<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/05/14/the-flight-of-the-conchords/</link>
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		<title>By: MPW</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/05/14/the-flight-of-the-conchords/#comment-467853</link>
		<dc:creator>MPW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 14:25:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From Stuff White People Like (http://stuffwhitepeoplelike.wordpress.com/2008/02/28/77-musical-comedy/): 

 "...when you have jokes that aren’t that great and music that isn’t that great, you can mix them together and create something that will entertain white people..."</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From Stuff White People Like (http://stuffwhitepeoplelike.wordpress.com/2008/02/28/77-musical-comedy/): </p>
<p> &#8220;&#8230;when you have jokes that aren’t that great and music that isn’t that great, you can mix them together and create something that will entertain white people&#8230;&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Darlene</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/05/14/the-flight-of-the-conchords/#comment-467309</link>
		<dc:creator>Darlene</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 11:31:03 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/05/14/the-flight-of-the-conchords/#comment-467309</guid>
		<description>Hiker, the FoTC play up their supposed lack of musical talent in interviews, but they are obviously talented singers and musicians. 

Thanks, tigtog. Just been loooking up info about I Got News for You.

Caroline Quentin was in that fine English drama, Blue Murder. She was also in that not terribly funny comedy with Chris Langham called Kiss Me Kate (he was in the funnier People Like Us).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hiker, the FoTC play up their supposed lack of musical talent in interviews, but they are obviously talented singers and musicians. </p>
<p>Thanks, tigtog. Just been loooking up info about I Got News for You.</p>
<p>Caroline Quentin was in that fine English drama, Blue Murder. She was also in that not terribly funny comedy with Chris Langham called Kiss Me Kate (he was in the funnier People Like Us).</p>
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		<title>By: Hilker</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/05/14/the-flight-of-the-conchords/#comment-467286</link>
		<dc:creator>Hilker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 10:31:10 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/05/14/the-flight-of-the-conchords/#comment-467286</guid>
		<description>Sorry, the BBC 7 link wasn't right, &lt;a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbc7/listenagain/" rel="nofollow"&gt;try again&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, the BBC 7 link wasn&#8217;t right, <a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbc7/listenagain/" rel="nofollow">try again</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Hilker</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/05/14/the-flight-of-the-conchords/#comment-467284</link>
		<dc:creator>Hilker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 10:27:47 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/05/14/the-flight-of-the-conchords/#comment-467284</guid>
		<description>Merton and Quentin are divorced now.

Merton is an extraordinary improvisor (and Quentin's not bad either). Check the wonderful improvised radio series, The Masterton Inheritance, which is rebroadcast on &lt;a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbc" rel="nofollow"&gt;BBC 7&lt;/a&gt; from time to time, like currently, on Mondays. (BBC 7 allows you to replay any show from the last week.)

Merton is also a long time member of the TV panel show, Have I Got News For You, which is much the same as our Good News Week (or vice versa), and on that show he produced the best recovery I have ever seen from a comedian whose &lt;a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5bJWef21gM" rel="nofollow"&gt;joke line wasn't working&lt;/a&gt;.

The Flight of the Conchords is quite good, and something that isn't always appreciated is the high level of musicianship of the two actors.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Merton and Quentin are divorced now.</p>
<p>Merton is an extraordinary improvisor (and Quentin&#8217;s not bad either). Check the wonderful improvised radio series, The Masterton Inheritance, which is rebroadcast on <a href="http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbc" rel="nofollow">BBC 7</a> from time to time, like currently, on Mondays. (BBC 7 allows you to replay any show from the last week.)</p>
<p>Merton is also a long time member of the TV panel show, Have I Got News For You, which is much the same as our Good News Week (or vice versa), and on that show he produced the best recovery I have ever seen from a comedian whose <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5bJWef21gM" rel="nofollow">joke line wasn&#8217;t working</a>.</p>
<p>The Flight of the Conchords is quite good, and something that isn&#8217;t always appreciated is the high level of musicianship of the two actors.</p>
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		<title>By: tigtog</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/05/14/the-flight-of-the-conchords/#comment-467262</link>
		<dc:creator>tigtog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 10:04:23 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/05/14/the-flight-of-the-conchords/#comment-467262</guid>
		<description>Paul Merton was a long time team captain on &lt;i&gt;Have I Got News For You&lt;/i&gt;, the British show from which &lt;i&gt;Good News Week&lt;/i&gt; derives.  He's pretty sharp.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paul Merton was a long time team captain on <i>Have I Got News For You</i>, the British show from which <i>Good News Week</i> derives.  He&#8217;s pretty sharp.</p>
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		<title>By: Darlene</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/05/14/the-flight-of-the-conchords/#comment-467246</link>
		<dc:creator>Darlene</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 09:25:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/05/14/the-flight-of-the-conchords/#comment-467246</guid>
		<description>Thanks for that, amphbious. I will listen next week and see how the modern version compares to the days of Nimmo and Williams et al

Paul Merton...have heard the name but unaware of his comedy. Stephen Fry is good value.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for that, amphbious. I will listen next week and see how the modern version compares to the days of Nimmo and Williams et al</p>
<p>Paul Merton&#8230;have heard the name but unaware of his comedy. Stephen Fry is good value.</p>
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		<title>By: amphibious</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/05/14/the-flight-of-the-conchords/#comment-467242</link>
		<dc:creator>amphibious</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 09:12:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/05/14/the-flight-of-the-conchords/#comment-467242</guid>
		<description>Darlene - You can hear Just a Minute on RN at 5.30am on Wednesdays. As well as Stephen Fry and Norton, the current star, a bit too determined for mine, is Paul Merton, some husband on Caroline Quentin.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Darlene - You can hear Just a Minute on RN at 5.30am on Wednesdays. As well as Stephen Fry and Norton, the current star, a bit too determined for mine, is Paul Merton, some husband on Caroline Quentin.</p>
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		<title>By: Darlene</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/05/14/the-flight-of-the-conchords/#comment-467205</link>
		<dc:creator>Darlene</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 07:30:30 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/05/14/the-flight-of-the-conchords/#comment-467205</guid>
		<description>Tee hee, it's all good material, Jobby :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tee hee, it&#8217;s all good material, Jobby <img src='http://larvatusprodeo.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Jobby</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/05/14/the-flight-of-the-conchords/#comment-467197</link>
		<dc:creator>Jobby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 07:03:51 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/05/14/the-flight-of-the-conchords/#comment-467197</guid>
		<description>I did my thesis on life experience.

Boom boom.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I did my thesis on life experience.</p>
<p>Boom boom.</p>
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		<title>By: Darlene</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/05/14/the-flight-of-the-conchords/#comment-467186</link>
		<dc:creator>Darlene</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 06:24:03 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/05/14/the-flight-of-the-conchords/#comment-467186</guid>
		<description>With a double major in politics and a minor in witlessness ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With a double major in politics and a minor in witlessness <img src='http://larvatusprodeo.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Jobby</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/05/14/the-flight-of-the-conchords/#comment-467182</link>
		<dc:creator>Jobby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 06:11:08 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/05/14/the-flight-of-the-conchords/#comment-467182</guid>
		<description>"Jobby, it’s a lost cause trying to re-educate me since I wasn’t educamacated in the first place."

Art degree, right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Jobby, it’s a lost cause trying to re-educate me since I wasn’t educamacated in the first place.&#8221;</p>
<p>Art degree, right?</p>
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		<title>By: Darlene</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/05/14/the-flight-of-the-conchords/#comment-467164</link>
		<dc:creator>Darlene</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 05:35:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/05/14/the-flight-of-the-conchords/#comment-467164</guid>
		<description>Only if you are the bingo caller, Deborah.

I'll mark you down for a couple of complimentary tickets for the upcoming bawdy farce, Carry On Kiwis, a hilarious and saucy look at a couple of young Kiwis in Australia. The shows features a well-known Australian celebrity as the lecherous Aussie owner of a fruit picking firm. It writes itself.    

Jobby, it's a lost cause trying to re-educate me since I wasn't educamacated in the first place.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Only if you are the bingo caller, Deborah.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll mark you down for a couple of complimentary tickets for the upcoming bawdy farce, Carry On Kiwis, a hilarious and saucy look at a couple of young Kiwis in Australia. The shows features a well-known Australian celebrity as the lecherous Aussie owner of a fruit picking firm. It writes itself.    </p>
<p>Jobby, it&#8217;s a lost cause trying to re-educate me since I wasn&#8217;t educamacated in the first place.</p>
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		<title>By: Nick Caldwell</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/05/14/the-flight-of-the-conchords/#comment-467162</link>
		<dc:creator>Nick Caldwell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 05:08:39 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/05/14/the-flight-of-the-conchords/#comment-467162</guid>
		<description>Old Piggy Muldoon used to say we expats raised the IQ of both countries. Now that man really knew how to talk smack.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Old Piggy Muldoon used to say we expats raised the IQ of both countries. Now that man really knew how to talk smack.</p>
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		<title>By: darin</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/05/14/the-flight-of-the-conchords/#comment-467160</link>
		<dc:creator>darin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 05:00:49 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/05/14/the-flight-of-the-conchords/#comment-467160</guid>
		<description>I think this discussion is sidestepping the real question. Which end of the bell curve are the Kiwis who emigrate sitting on? 

I've heard it argued both ways, mostly around the chully bun....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think this discussion is sidestepping the real question. Which end of the bell curve are the Kiwis who emigrate sitting on? </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve heard it argued both ways, mostly around the chully bun&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Jobby</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/05/14/the-flight-of-the-conchords/#comment-467159</link>
		<dc:creator>Jobby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 04:57:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/05/14/the-flight-of-the-conchords/#comment-467159</guid>
		<description>Ha ha, Darlene committed a thought crime and now the New Zealanders are gonna have her re-educated.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ha ha, Darlene committed a thought crime and now the New Zealanders are gonna have her re-educated.</p>
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		<title>By: Deborah</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/05/14/the-flight-of-the-conchords/#comment-467157</link>
		<dc:creator>Deborah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 04:57:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/05/14/the-flight-of-the-conchords/#comment-467157</guid>
		<description>Whatever, Darlene.  I don't think this is an 'agree to disagree' matter; that's a tactic that can be used to dismiss other people's concerns.  I don't know what Nick / Neil thinks about this, but I do think that if I was playing bingo, I would be pretty close to getting a scorecard completed by now.

I'm doing lots of things at once too.  Some marking, writing a reference for someone, getting washing through.  Heaven knows how my silly little Kiwi brain can cope.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whatever, Darlene.  I don&#8217;t think this is an &#8216;agree to disagree&#8217; matter; that&#8217;s a tactic that can be used to dismiss other people&#8217;s concerns.  I don&#8217;t know what Nick / Neil thinks about this, but I do think that if I was playing bingo, I would be pretty close to getting a scorecard completed by now.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m doing lots of things at once too.  Some marking, writing a reference for someone, getting washing through.  Heaven knows how my silly little Kiwi brain can cope.</p>
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		<title>By: Darlene</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/05/14/the-flight-of-the-conchords/#comment-467156</link>
		<dc:creator>Darlene</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 04:49:43 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/05/14/the-flight-of-the-conchords/#comment-467156</guid>
		<description>I just said that I have a hate rating of 9.6; don't know if I can top that or not. Could try, though, but I am trying to do other things while reading this thread. Bit difficult that doing two things at once thing. 

See comment at 2.30pm and comment at 1.55pm.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just said that I have a hate rating of 9.6; don&#8217;t know if I can top that or not. Could try, though, but I am trying to do other things while reading this thread. Bit difficult that doing two things at once thing. </p>
<p>See comment at 2.30pm and comment at 1.55pm.</p>
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		<title>By: Deborah</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/05/14/the-flight-of-the-conchords/#comment-467153</link>
		<dc:creator>Deborah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 04:43:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/05/14/the-flight-of-the-conchords/#comment-467153</guid>
		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Befitting a show about a couple of musicians from New Zealand, the main characters are pretty dim and not necessarily talented&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Here's another way of putting this 'joke', or piece of 'irony', or whatever.

(1) X is from a certain country.
(2) All people from that certain country are dim and untalented.
(3) Therefore X must be dim and untalented

Generally, we would say that this argument is unsound because the second premise is flawed.  Do you want me to spell it out as to why it's flawed? Or maybe, you could just admit that jibes about NZers being stupid are not really all that funny, and it was kind of a silly thing to say.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Befitting a show about a couple of musicians from New Zealand, the main characters are pretty dim and not necessarily talented</p></blockquote>
<p>Here&#8217;s another way of putting this &#8216;joke&#8217;, or piece of &#8216;irony&#8217;, or whatever.</p>
<p>(1) X is from a certain country.<br />
(2) All people from that certain country are dim and untalented.<br />
(3) Therefore X must be dim and untalented</p>
<p>Generally, we would say that this argument is unsound because the second premise is flawed.  Do you want me to spell it out as to why it&#8217;s flawed? Or maybe, you could just admit that jibes about NZers being stupid are not really all that funny, and it was kind of a silly thing to say.</p>
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		<title>By: Darlene</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/05/14/the-flight-of-the-conchords/#comment-467150</link>
		<dc:creator>Darlene</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 04:39:33 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/05/14/the-flight-of-the-conchords/#comment-467150</guid>
		<description>Of course I don't think NZers (or Qlders) are stupid....Christ almighty as if I am in a position to judge. 

Although after doing the test that Andy gave to Maggie in an episode of Extras I have discovered that I have a hate rating of 9.6:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LLWWFU7r2K0</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course I don&#8217;t think NZers (or Qlders) are stupid&#8230;.Christ almighty as if I am in a position to judge. </p>
<p>Although after doing the test that Andy gave to Maggie in an episode of Extras I have discovered that I have a hate rating of 9.6:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LLWWFU7r2K0" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LLWWFU7r2K0</a></p>
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		<title>By: Pavlov's Cat</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/05/14/the-flight-of-the-conchords/#comment-467146</link>
		<dc:creator>Pavlov's Cat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 04:33:49 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/05/14/the-flight-of-the-conchords/#comment-467146</guid>
		<description>I'm glad someone's mentioned the Finn brothers because I initially thought Darlene was being ironic. I plead guilty to making jokes about the accent (mine is of course unexceptionable :D) but most of New Zealanders I've actually met are in fact either smarter or nicer than I am. Often both.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m glad someone&#8217;s mentioned the Finn brothers because I initially thought Darlene was being ironic. I plead guilty to making jokes about the accent (mine is of course unexceptionable :D) but most of New Zealanders I&#8217;ve actually met are in fact either smarter or nicer than I am. Often both.</p>
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