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	<title>Comments on: Line of the day</title>
	<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/05/20/line-of-the-day/</link>
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		<title>By: Ben Raue</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/05/20/line-of-the-day/#comment-469391</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben Raue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 03:57:17 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/05/20/line-of-the-day/#comment-469391</guid>
		<description>Until Crean came to the leadership things were quite stable for the federal ALP. Likewise Bob Carr was the only leader for the seven years of Liberal government in NSW and as far as I can tell Brumby and Bracks were the only two opposition leaders in Victoria.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Until Crean came to the leadership things were quite stable for the federal ALP. Likewise Bob Carr was the only leader for the seven years of Liberal government in NSW and as far as I can tell Brumby and Bracks were the only two opposition leaders in Victoria.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/05/20/line-of-the-day/#comment-469104</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 12:14:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/05/20/line-of-the-day/#comment-469104</guid>
		<description>Thanks, casey!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, casey!</p>
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		<title>By: casey</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/05/20/line-of-the-day/#comment-469051</link>
		<dc:creator>casey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 09:31:29 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/05/20/line-of-the-day/#comment-469051</guid>
		<description>Costello did march. Not across the bridge,  but in Melbourne.

". But Mr Costello doesn't intend to miss the Walk for Reconciliation in his home town of Melbourne on Sunday, shifting another engagement to take up the invitation from ATSIC chair Geoff Clark. Other prominent Liberals have now decided to join the Treasurer, rearranging their programs. Among them, Victorian Liberal Leader Denis Napthine, federal Education Minister David Kemp and Health Minister Michael Wooldridge."

http://www.abc.net.au/am/stories/s217991.htm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Costello did march. Not across the bridge,  but in Melbourne.</p>
<p>&#8220;. But Mr Costello doesn&#8217;t intend to miss the Walk for Reconciliation in his home town of Melbourne on Sunday, shifting another engagement to take up the invitation from ATSIC chair Geoff Clark. Other prominent Liberals have now decided to join the Treasurer, rearranging their programs. Among them, Victorian Liberal Leader Denis Napthine, federal Education Minister David Kemp and Health Minister Michael Wooldridge.&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.abc.net.au/am/stories/s217991.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.abc.net.au/am/stories/s217991.htm</a></p>
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		<title>By: catlick</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/05/20/line-of-the-day/#comment-469046</link>
		<dc:creator>catlick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 09:06:55 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/05/20/line-of-the-day/#comment-469046</guid>
		<description>&lt;i&gt;Speaking of which, Malcolm Turnbull apparently came up with the *clever* plan of suggesting all possible leadership rivals move to state politics.&lt;/i&gt;

Costello?  No, work with me on this one...Would he come home, roll up his sleeves and show the local yokels how it's done?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Speaking of which, Malcolm Turnbull apparently came up with the *clever* plan of suggesting all possible leadership rivals move to state politics.</i></p>
<p>Costello?  No, work with me on this one&#8230;Would he come home, roll up his sleeves and show the local yokels how it&#8217;s done?</p>
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		<title>By: Fine</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/05/20/line-of-the-day/#comment-468969</link>
		<dc:creator>Fine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 04:57:58 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/05/20/line-of-the-day/#comment-468969</guid>
		<description>You see May 3rd - Mayo.

Those Libs are going off like a frog in a sock.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You see May 3rd - Mayo.</p>
<p>Those Libs are going off like a frog in a sock.</p>
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		<title>By: David Rubie</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/05/20/line-of-the-day/#comment-468964</link>
		<dc:creator>David Rubie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 04:50:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/05/20/line-of-the-day/#comment-468964</guid>
		<description>How old is Dolly's photo on his blog?  It looks about 10 years and 15 kilos ago.  I'm sure the constituents of Mayo are enthralled with his erudite musings on the Blairs and poor public form.  Or not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How old is Dolly&#8217;s photo on his blog?  It looks about 10 years and 15 kilos ago.  I&#8217;m sure the constituents of Mayo are enthralled with his erudite musings on the Blairs and poor public form.  Or not.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/05/20/line-of-the-day/#comment-468962</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 04:43:12 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/05/20/line-of-the-day/#comment-468962</guid>
		<description>To give Dolly his due, it does look like he writes his blog himself, and he's a lot more literate than his glorious leader proved to be when he wrote the execrable listening tour diary. What his musings have to do with the constituents of Mayo is another matter...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To give Dolly his due, it does look like he writes his blog himself, and he&#8217;s a lot more literate than his glorious leader proved to be when he wrote the execrable listening tour diary. What his musings have to do with the constituents of Mayo is another matter&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Burns</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/05/20/line-of-the-day/#comment-468960</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Burns</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 04:40:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/05/20/line-of-the-day/#comment-468960</guid>
		<description>Resisted temptation to comment on Downer's blog. (if one can.)
All I wanted to say was:
Hullo, Dolly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Resisted temptation to comment on Downer&#8217;s blog. (if one can.)<br />
All I wanted to say was:<br />
Hullo, Dolly.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/05/20/line-of-the-day/#comment-468958</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 04:39:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/05/20/line-of-the-day/#comment-468958</guid>
		<description>Hmm, I think Dolly should redirect his talents. A blog reviewing cigars and malt scotches might be a more apt contribution from him to these intertubes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmm, I think Dolly should redirect his talents. A blog reviewing cigars and malt scotches might be a more apt contribution from him to these intertubes.</p>
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		<title>By: Brett</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/05/20/line-of-the-day/#comment-468955</link>
		<dc:creator>Brett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 04:35:21 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/05/20/line-of-the-day/#comment-468955</guid>
		<description>The Minchin/Downer story is &lt;a href="http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2008/05/20/2249904.htm" rel="nofollow"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;. Doesn't say anything about May 3rd but does refer to "Mayo" :)

Hey! Downer has a blog: http://www.alexanderdowner.com.au/Pages/Headlines.aspx?SectionID=28</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Minchin/Downer story is <a href="http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2008/05/20/2249904.htm" rel="nofollow">here</a>. Doesn&#8217;t say anything about May 3rd but does refer to &#8220;Mayo&#8221; <img src='http://larvatusprodeo.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
Hey! Downer has a blog: <a href="http://www.alexanderdowner.com.au/Pages/Headlines.aspx?SectionID=28" rel="nofollow">http://www.alexanderdowner.com.au/Pages/Headlines.aspx?SectionID=28</a></p>
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		<title>By: Ambigulous</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/05/20/line-of-the-day/#comment-468953</link>
		<dc:creator>Ambigulous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 04:34:57 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/05/20/line-of-the-day/#comment-468953</guid>
		<description>Mark wrote
"then changed his mind when Howard told him not to"

{sigh} the story of his life in Parliament, even at the dizzy heights of Treasurer and Deputy Leader.

He's a damp squib. He rose without a trace. His best years [did he have any good ones?] are behind him. The souffle has collapsed. 

The bubble was burst by a little prick.

On Sunday 25th November he raised the White Flag for the umpteenth time. He was ever the Knight of the White Flag.

******

May he mount his tired and bony steed "Workshy" 
And shuffle off to distant pastures brown and dry.

******

cheerio</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark wrote<br />
&#8220;then changed his mind when Howard told him not to&#8221;</p>
<p>{sigh} the story of his life in Parliament, even at the dizzy heights of Treasurer and Deputy Leader.</p>
<p>He&#8217;s a damp squib. He rose without a trace. His best years [did he have any good ones?] are behind him. The souffle has collapsed. </p>
<p>The bubble was burst by a little prick.</p>
<p>On Sunday 25th November he raised the White Flag for the umpteenth time. He was ever the Knight of the White Flag.</p>
<p>******</p>
<p>May he mount his tired and bony steed &#8220;Workshy&#8221;<br />
And shuffle off to distant pastures brown and dry.</p>
<p>******</p>
<p>cheerio</p>
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		<title>By: Ken Lovell</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/05/20/line-of-the-day/#comment-468948</link>
		<dc:creator>Ken Lovell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 04:20:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/05/20/line-of-the-day/#comment-468948</guid>
		<description>"Who wants a bet on Costello being leader by the end of the year?"

Oh please lord let it be so. Cut'n'run Pete, the bloke who sulked in his room for months after he got beaten ... the bloke whose public devotion to WorkChoices ideology dates back to the 1980s ... the bloke whose every public statement can either be contradicted by something he said in 11+ years in government or used to prove how fixated he is on bringing back the past ... the bloke who can't answer a question from a reporter without adopting either a Serious Look or an insufferable smirk ... he would be a blogging dream. 

Unfortunately there might be just enough shreds of sanity left in the party to realise that he is now the feather duster of all feather dusters and will never, ever be prime minister.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Who wants a bet on Costello being leader by the end of the year?&#8221;</p>
<p>Oh please lord let it be so. Cut&#8217;n'run Pete, the bloke who sulked in his room for months after he got beaten &#8230; the bloke whose public devotion to WorkChoices ideology dates back to the 1980s &#8230; the bloke whose every public statement can either be contradicted by something he said in 11+ years in government or used to prove how fixated he is on bringing back the past &#8230; the bloke who can&#8217;t answer a question from a reporter without adopting either a Serious Look or an insufferable smirk &#8230; he would be a blogging dream. </p>
<p>Unfortunately there might be just enough shreds of sanity left in the party to realise that he is now the feather duster of all feather dusters and will never, ever be prime minister.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/05/20/line-of-the-day/#comment-468947</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 04:19:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/05/20/line-of-the-day/#comment-468947</guid>
		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;DON’T TELL ME THE ENDING, I’M WAITING FOR THE BOOK TO COME OUT!&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Sorry, Antonio! I won't mention the startling revelations that John Howard was a fiscally profligate lying rodent then!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>DON’T TELL ME THE ENDING, I’M WAITING FOR THE BOOK TO COME OUT!</p></blockquote>
<p>Sorry, Antonio! I won&#8217;t mention the startling revelations that John Howard was a fiscally profligate lying rodent then!</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Burns</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/05/20/line-of-the-day/#comment-468943</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Burns</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 04:17:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/05/20/line-of-the-day/#comment-468943</guid>
		<description>Message to Malcolm - you don't ask your political revals politely to leave. You stab 'em in the back, mate!
Downer in a tizzy over Minchin. How nice!
Costello is also a suspect for the leak. So does he have his eyes on the leadership? One wonders, though I have to say I tend ro agree with the doubts expressed by all Lp-ers above.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Message to Malcolm - you don&#8217;t ask your political revals politely to leave. You stab &#8216;em in the back, mate!<br />
Downer in a tizzy over Minchin. How nice!<br />
Costello is also a suspect for the leak. So does he have his eyes on the leadership? One wonders, though I have to say I tend ro agree with the doubts expressed by all Lp-ers above.</p>
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		<title>By: David Rubie</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/05/20/line-of-the-day/#comment-468931</link>
		<dc:creator>David Rubie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 04:06:08 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/05/20/line-of-the-day/#comment-468931</guid>
		<description>They can't make Costello the leader, he'll be torn to bits every parliamentary sitting day with the fallout from his "masterclass" budgets of years past and spinelessness in standing up to Howard in any way, shape or form.

What's surprising to me is just how badly Turnbull has shot himself in the foot.  Clearly he was never a team player (but you don't have to be in the libs) but if most of them didn't hate him before, he just gave them plenty of reason to now.  Ironically, it'll give the "poor Brendan" narrative some legs.

Howard's coming back.  I'd bet money that Howard is more likely as next leader of the liberal party than Costello.  Hell, I'd bet money that Downer is more likely than Costello.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They can&#8217;t make Costello the leader, he&#8217;ll be torn to bits every parliamentary sitting day with the fallout from his &#8220;masterclass&#8221; budgets of years past and spinelessness in standing up to Howard in any way, shape or form.</p>
<p>What&#8217;s surprising to me is just how badly Turnbull has shot himself in the foot.  Clearly he was never a team player (but you don&#8217;t have to be in the libs) but if most of them didn&#8217;t hate him before, he just gave them plenty of reason to now.  Ironically, it&#8217;ll give the &#8220;poor Brendan&#8221; narrative some legs.</p>
<p>Howard&#8217;s coming back.  I&#8217;d bet money that Howard is more likely as next leader of the liberal party than Costello.  Hell, I&#8217;d bet money that Downer is more likely than Costello.</p>
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		<title>By: Antonio</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/05/20/line-of-the-day/#comment-468930</link>
		<dc:creator>Antonio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 04:02:12 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/05/20/line-of-the-day/#comment-468930</guid>
		<description>Mark said:

"If I’m remembering correctly, he said he was going to march across the bridge then changed his mind when Howard told him not to. Is that right?"

DON'T TELL ME THE ENDING, I'M WAITING FOR THE BOOK TO COME OUT!

Seriously, put a spoiler warning before those posts...!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark said:</p>
<p>&#8220;If I’m remembering correctly, he said he was going to march across the bridge then changed his mind when Howard told him not to. Is that right?&#8221;</p>
<p>DON&#8217;T TELL ME THE ENDING, I&#8217;M WAITING FOR THE BOOK TO COME OUT!</p>
<p>Seriously, put a spoiler warning before those posts&#8230;!</p>
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		<title>By: jane</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/05/20/line-of-the-day/#comment-468928</link>
		<dc:creator>jane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 03:58:35 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/05/20/line-of-the-day/#comment-468928</guid>
		<description>Antonio @16, apparently Kroger and Costello are no longer first best friends or even 100th best friends. They've had a serious falling out over preferred candidates for Tip's seat or somesuch. It was in the Weekend Australian, I think. Sod can't find the article for a link.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Antonio @16, apparently Kroger and Costello are no longer first best friends or even 100th best friends. They&#8217;ve had a serious falling out over preferred candidates for Tip&#8217;s seat or somesuch. It was in the Weekend Australian, I think. Sod can&#8217;t find the article for a link.</p>
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		<title>By: Fine</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/05/20/line-of-the-day/#comment-468923</link>
		<dc:creator>Fine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 03:51:47 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/05/20/line-of-the-day/#comment-468923</guid>
		<description>I may have heard the date wrongly, and of course it's long gone. But, it was definitely a story on ABC midday news with Minchin saying that Downer is retiring.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I may have heard the date wrongly, and of course it&#8217;s long gone. But, it was definitely a story on ABC midday news with Minchin saying that Downer is retiring.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/05/20/line-of-the-day/#comment-468919</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 03:27:24 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/05/20/line-of-the-day/#comment-468919</guid>
		<description>Peter, yes, but Labor kept its head in opposition - that's the point.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Peter, yes, but Labor kept its head in opposition - that&#8217;s the point.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/05/20/line-of-the-day/#comment-468916</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 03:25:41 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/05/20/line-of-the-day/#comment-468916</guid>
		<description>Mark @ 2 - I wouldn't use the Borbidge government (Qld 96-98) as an example of anything.  Labor initially won the election, then the result in Mundingburra (Townsville-based seat) got overturned.  Coalition won the by-election, thereby taking office.

Also, to Fine @ 15 - Downer retiring on May 3rd?  Apart from the fact that it's now May 20, I hadn't heard anything concrete about Downer's retirement.  Methinks a search of the ABC website is in order...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark @ 2 - I wouldn&#8217;t use the Borbidge government (Qld 96-98) as an example of anything.  Labor initially won the election, then the result in Mundingburra (Townsville-based seat) got overturned.  Coalition won the by-election, thereby taking office.</p>
<p>Also, to Fine @ 15 - Downer retiring on May 3rd?  Apart from the fact that it&#8217;s now May 20, I hadn&#8217;t heard anything concrete about Downer&#8217;s retirement.  Methinks a search of the ABC website is in order&#8230;</p>
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