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	<title>Comments on: Bill Henson photography controversy - latest news links and discussion continued</title>
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		<title>By: Kim</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/05/31/bill-henson-photography-controversy-latest-news-links-and-discussion-continued/#comment-475439</link>
		<dc:creator>Kim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 06:38:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;Note&lt;/b&gt;: Comments on this post are now closed, and can be continued &lt;a href="http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/06/05/bbill-henson-photography-controversy-latest-news-links-and-discussion-continued-ii/" rel="nofollow"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Note</b>: Comments on this post are now closed, and can be continued <a href="http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/06/05/bbill-henson-photography-controversy-latest-news-links-and-discussion-continued-ii/" rel="nofollow">here</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Nikki</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/05/31/bill-henson-photography-controversy-latest-news-links-and-discussion-continued/#comment-474911</link>
		<dc:creator>Nikki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 02:21:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Simple, all children are impressionable!!
  I have no problem with nude's in general and am all for freedom of speech. However i do not think these pictures should be allowed to been shown. An adult may not realise they are abusing there position of authority or even aware of it but all adults have a position of authority over children, kids are impressionable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Simple, all children are impressionable!!<br />
  I have no problem with nude&#8217;s in general and am all for freedom of speech. However i do not think these pictures should be allowed to been shown. An adult may not realise they are abusing there position of authority or even aware of it but all adults have a position of authority over children, kids are impressionable.</p>
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		<title>By: Adrien</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/05/31/bill-henson-photography-controversy-latest-news-links-and-discussion-continued/#comment-474671</link>
		<dc:creator>Adrien</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2008 10:25:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;multiple orgasms in parliament
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Dem and blost wot! We should dock that demmed chap his pay and at the club he'll be eating his chop alone quite some time. Did he claim these 'genetically modified orgasms' on the public bill? Did he? Put his dem hide on half-pay and sack him from the regiment. And a Tory too. He should dem well know better. What do you mean he has no regiment?
&#62;
Talk of lowering the tone wot. Society these days - a dem bunch of nobodies talking about nothing. 
&#62;
Anyway off to the Hunt. Gerald's rounded up some of the cleaning staff at one of his buildings. Apparently these chaps can run quite fast. Should make for a spot of sport wot.
&#62;
Tally ho'.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>multiple orgasms in parliament
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<p>Dem and blost wot! We should dock that demmed chap his pay and at the club he&#8217;ll be eating his chop alone quite some time. Did he claim these &#8216;genetically modified orgasms&#8217; on the public bill? Did he? Put his dem hide on half-pay and sack him from the regiment. And a Tory too. He should dem well know better. What do you mean he has no regiment?<br />
&gt;<br />
Talk of lowering the tone wot. Society these days - a dem bunch of nobodies talking about nothing.<br />
&gt;<br />
Anyway off to the Hunt. Gerald&#8217;s rounded up some of the cleaning staff at one of his buildings. Apparently these chaps can run quite fast. Should make for a spot of sport wot.<br />
&gt;<br />
Tally ho&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: Adrien</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/05/31/bill-henson-photography-controversy-latest-news-links-and-discussion-continued/#comment-474667</link>
		<dc:creator>Adrien</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2008 10:20:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;It’s not like we’re losing a Beethoven symphony.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Actually it is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>It’s not like we’re losing a Beethoven symphony.</p></blockquote>
<p>Actually it is.</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/05/31/bill-henson-photography-controversy-latest-news-links-and-discussion-continued/#comment-474665</link>
		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2008 10:15:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don't think Henson should be prosecuted.  However if he can't express his ideas about adolescence without taking pix of nude under-age girls, then too bad.

It's not like we're losing a Beethoven symphony.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think Henson should be prosecuted.  However if he can&#8217;t express his ideas about adolescence without taking pix of nude under-age girls, then too bad.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not like we&#8217;re losing a Beethoven symphony.</p>
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		<title>By: Adrien</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/05/31/bill-henson-photography-controversy-latest-news-links-and-discussion-continued/#comment-474658</link>
		<dc:creator>Adrien</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2008 09:56:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;not sure if this artist is niave or simply , well um, niave.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Naive or not here's to her; raise your glass. High.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>not sure if this artist is niave or simply , well um, niave.</p></blockquote>
<p>Naive or not here&#8217;s to her; raise your glass. High.</p>
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		<title>By: sublimecowgirl</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/05/31/bill-henson-photography-controversy-latest-news-links-and-discussion-continued/#comment-474629</link>
		<dc:creator>sublimecowgirl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2008 08:14:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>see what this has all led to....multiple orgasms in parliament
http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2008/06/03/1212258746557.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>see what this has all led to&#8230;.multiple orgasms in parliament<br />
<a href="http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2008/06/03/1212258746557.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2008/06/03/1212258746557.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: sublimecowgirl</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/05/31/bill-henson-photography-controversy-latest-news-links-and-discussion-continued/#comment-474620</link>
		<dc:creator>sublimecowgirl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2008 06:58:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>cool comment and thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>cool comment and thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/05/31/bill-henson-photography-controversy-latest-news-links-and-discussion-continued/#comment-474618</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2008 06:45:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/05/31/bill-henson-photography-controversy-latest-news-links-and-discussion-continued/#comment-474618</guid>
		<description>sc, concerning your 99, I did and commented at 44.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sc, concerning your 99, I did and commented at 44.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/05/31/bill-henson-photography-controversy-latest-news-links-and-discussion-continued/#comment-474614</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2008 06:42:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Despammed. It's there now at 99.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Despammed. It&#8217;s there now at 99.</p>
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		<title>By: sublimecowgirl</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/05/31/bill-henson-photography-controversy-latest-news-links-and-discussion-continued/#comment-474613</link>
		<dc:creator>sublimecowgirl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2008 06:40:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/05/31/bill-henson-photography-controversy-latest-news-links-and-discussion-continued/#comment-474613</guid>
		<description>oh and i'm in the spam can again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oh and i&#8217;m in the spam can again.</p>
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		<title>By: sublimecowgirl</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/05/31/bill-henson-photography-controversy-latest-news-links-and-discussion-continued/#comment-474612</link>
		<dc:creator>sublimecowgirl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2008 06:38:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nope, no way they are going to be identified by promoting the show and showing their pics in the paper.

Seriously, (and this seems more like opportunistic promotion than protest), they are 17 now - essentially too old for interest by child protection depts, so i don't think its problematic particularly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nope, no way they are going to be identified by promoting the show and showing their pics in the paper.</p>
<p>Seriously, (and this seems more like opportunistic promotion than protest), they are 17 now - essentially too old for interest by child protection depts, so i don&#8217;t think its problematic particularly.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/05/31/bill-henson-photography-controversy-latest-news-links-and-discussion-continued/#comment-474611</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2008 06:38:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Provided there are no unprincipled dobbers, that is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Provided there are no unprincipled dobbers, that is.</p>
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		<title>By: sublimecowgirl</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/05/31/bill-henson-photography-controversy-latest-news-links-and-discussion-continued/#comment-474605</link>
		<dc:creator>sublimecowgirl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2008 06:24:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Did you catch Radio National Artworks on the weekend or this afternoon btw ?
THought it was quite balanced 

We begin with an interview from 2003 when Bill Henson spoke to Julie Copeland about the relationship between people and place in his photographs - between his dark urban landscapes and the young figures he depicts in them.
The president of the Law Society of New South Wales Hugh Macken believes whilst it will be very difficult to prosecute the artist, people publishing and accessing the images electronically, could be in trouble.
Vivien Gaston is an art historian and critic and an honorary fellow at the University of Melbourne and has mixed feelings about the art of Bill Henson.
&lt;code&gt;http://www.abc.net.au/rn/artworks/stories/2008/2260481.htm&lt;code&gt;

Oh, and on the porn thing, poor old Bill Henson shares his name with a porn star, which probably won't help the search engine hits.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did you catch Radio National Artworks on the weekend or this afternoon btw ?<br />
THought it was quite balanced </p>
<p>We begin with an interview from 2003 when Bill Henson spoke to Julie Copeland about the relationship between people and place in his photographs - between his dark urban landscapes and the young figures he depicts in them.<br />
The president of the Law Society of New South Wales Hugh Macken believes whilst it will be very difficult to prosecute the artist, people publishing and accessing the images electronically, could be in trouble.<br />
Vivien Gaston is an art historian and critic and an honorary fellow at the University of Melbourne and has mixed feelings about the art of Bill Henson.<br />
<code><a href="http://www.abc.net.au/rn/artworks/stories/2008/2260481.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.abc.net.au/rn/artworks/stories/2008/2260481.htm</a></code><code></p>
<p>Oh, and on the porn thing, poor old Bill Henson shares his name with a porn star, which probably won't help the search engine hits.</code></p>
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		<title>By: Kim</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/05/31/bill-henson-photography-controversy-latest-news-links-and-discussion-continued/#comment-474604</link>
		<dc:creator>Kim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2008 06:21:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And they're not being!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And they&#8217;re not being!</p>
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		<title>By: sublimecowgirl</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/05/31/bill-henson-photography-controversy-latest-news-links-and-discussion-continued/#comment-474603</link>
		<dc:creator>sublimecowgirl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2008 06:20:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The parents don't wish the kids to be identified. (?)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The parents don&#8217;t wish the kids to be identified. (?)</p>
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		<title>By: Kim</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/05/31/bill-henson-photography-controversy-latest-news-links-and-discussion-continued/#comment-474600</link>
		<dc:creator>Kim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2008 06:15:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why do you think she's naive, sc?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why do you think she&#8217;s naive, sc?</p>
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		<title>By: sublimecowgirl</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/05/31/bill-henson-photography-controversy-latest-news-links-and-discussion-continued/#comment-474594</link>
		<dc:creator>sublimecowgirl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2008 06:09:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>kim - not sure if this artist is niave or simply , well um, niave.


"Larielle, who studied at Melbourne School of Art, took the photographs when her two subjects were 11. They are now 17, and have given permission, she says, for their images to be shown in public, although their parents do not wish them to be identified."

Good thing there's no media interest in this sort of thing then ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>kim - not sure if this artist is niave or simply , well um, niave.</p>
<p>&#8220;Larielle, who studied at Melbourne School of Art, took the photographs when her two subjects were 11. They are now 17, and have given permission, she says, for their images to be shown in public, although their parents do not wish them to be identified.&#8221;</p>
<p>Good thing there&#8217;s no media interest in this sort of thing then <img src='http://larvatusprodeo.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Kim</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/05/31/bill-henson-photography-controversy-latest-news-links-and-discussion-continued/#comment-474488</link>
		<dc:creator>Kim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2008 02:55:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Photographic protest in Melbourne:

http://www.theage.com.au/national/nude-boy-photos-to-show-20080602-2kwj.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Photographic protest in Melbourne:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.theage.com.au/national/nude-boy-photos-to-show-20080602-2kwj.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.theage.com.au/national/nude-boy-photos-to-show-20080602-2kwj.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Emma</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/05/31/bill-henson-photography-controversy-latest-news-links-and-discussion-continued/#comment-474480</link>
		<dc:creator>Emma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2008 02:40:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But then I was just thinking, Claire Bowdler is from the Classification Board, so I guess a large part of her work would be focussed on deciding what level of classification an image of a naked body will be given. And so of course her focus on the concept of 'nudity' would perhaps always be on the sexual areas of the body, as I imagine that how visble the sexual areas of the body are would be the deciding factor as to whether an image of a naked body is 'G' or PG/M/MA15+/R18+/X18+. 

I think I was reading too much into her idea of 'nudity', given her profession!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But then I was just thinking, Claire Bowdler is from the Classification Board, so I guess a large part of her work would be focussed on deciding what level of classification an image of a naked body will be given. And so of course her focus on the concept of &#8216;nudity&#8217; would perhaps always be on the sexual areas of the body, as I imagine that how visble the sexual areas of the body are would be the deciding factor as to whether an image of a naked body is &#8216;G&#8217; or PG/M/MA15+/R18+/X18+. </p>
<p>I think I was reading too much into her idea of &#8216;nudity&#8217;, given her profession!</p>
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