http://www.parliament.qld.gov.au/view/committees/documents/MEPPC/reports/Report%2090.pdf

“Parers number one Loyalties lay with the former PM and him only.”

I’m not entirely sure how you could possibly know that MM! Besides, actions speak louder than words. Parer did a pretty good job of protecting the Santo grouping’s interests - particularly during the state parliamentary leadership debacle!

“Parers number one Loyalties lay with the former PM and him Besides, actions speak louder than words. Parer did a pretty good job of protecting the Santo grouping’s interests - particularly during the state parliamentary leadership debacle!

“Brough has not been the ‘first’ non-Santo person to be elected in almost ten years. There were one or two past Presidents who were certainly not ‘Santo’ people.”

Care to name one? And I’m not referring to people who won election as a Santo person but moved away from Santo towards the end of their Presidency (eg Bob Carroll).

I stand by my original point that the election of Brough represents a significant shift within the Queensland Liberal party.

“I think Parer was definitely considered to be a Santo person regardless of whether he had Howards imprimatur or not. Working for Parer was one of Santos first political jobs right?”

Regardless Parer was backed at the previous convention by BOTH sides- it was not a Santo victory or numbers that he won on- the moderates should have run their own person and not bowed to Howard as they had the numbers but Parers number one Loyalties lay with the former PM and him only.

“Given that Broughs election represents the first non-Santo President in almost ten years, I would say that it’s a pretty significant moment for the QLD Libs. It will be interesting to see what happens with the State Director position.”

Brough has not been the ‘first’ non-Santo person to be elected in almost ten years. There were one or two past Presidents who were certainly not ‘Santo’ people- thought you would know that looking at previous posts about your knowledge and criticisms of various Liberal groups.

An interesting CNN compilation on where personal flying is going.

http://60minutes.yahoo.com/segment/173/flying_cars

http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/05/31/brough-to-can-pineapple-party/

I agree with you that potentially the Borg’s Pineapple has now hit a prickly patch.

I’m not a member of any political party so I could hardly be accused of sneaking around the Liberal Party convention!

I simply reported the numbers that were passed onto me. I’m more than happy to accept corrections on the exact numbers!

I think Parer was definitely considered to be a Santo person regardless of whether he had Howards imprimatur or not. Working for Parer was one of Santos first political jobs right?

Given that Broughs election represents the first non-Santo President in almost ten years, I would say that it’s a pretty significant moment for the QLD Libs. It will be interesting to see what happens with the State Director position.

Thank you for your otherwise positive contribution to the discussion.

Mark @ 15

If I have time I will post a more detailed response but in short I think Brough will be a tough negotiator with the Nats particularly when it comes to the new constitution. The heat will now be on Springborg and his backers. If the Borg cedes to Brough quickly it could anger his backers and show leadership weakness. It will be interesting to see how the Nats handle a bride demanding a far more generous dowry!

http://www.eyeonbigbrother.com/2008/?option=com_content&task=view&id=177&Itemid=26

Wouldn’t it be delicious if the bullies start showing symptoms next week? (google) Incubation period 2-3 weeks, average 14-16 days. That would serve them so right.

And you heard it wrong from Antonio first
The actual numbers are incorrect Antonio- as usual trying to act like you are in the know by a ‘hot off the press’ sneaking around the Hilton while avoiding all Liberals of note and still getting it wrong. Brough got in but not on your numbers buddy lmao

Also if you reflect on last conventions Vice Presidental votes you would see that the VP’s of last convention won by equal numbers to the VP’s of this convention and the other exec positions were won on similar numbers so it is not an unprecedented hammering of Santo. A hammering of Santo is not just winning the Presidential vote but taking the whole box and dice.

*Note Before you say Parer was Santos candidate Parer was uncontested because he was John Howards Presidential nomination not Santos. Parer may have sided with Santo more often that not but he was on both tickets out of respect to Howard.

That refers to Japerz’ comment #24, Tigtog, about one of these blogger-bashers. Boo!

FDB, that’s terrible. I hope you get it sorted soon. I have been broken down (cooked engine) in Junee on the way back from Canberra in similar circs. I hope you have plenty of warm clothing.

at least lauredhel’s LJ is still up and running. She’d just crossposted regarding the assault in the BB House before Hoyden went down. [link]

Boo.

20-30 grand’s worth of musical instruments in it, nowhere to stay and boy am I pissed off.

Hope everyone else’s weekend is going heaps better. I’ve had a fucking gutful.

And what will I do, having become accustomed to lounging around there? What are they up to those Brunswick Heads people, are the prawns running or something?

Also, I finally managed to attend five consecutive nights at agility taining so on Thursday Demi graduated from Basic Beginner to Beginner
Lovely sunny weather outside so will take Demi for a lovely long walk in a minute or 3