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	<title>Comments on: Where&#8217;s the qualitative Newspoll?</title>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/06/04/wheres-the-qualitative-newspoll/#comment-475669</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jun 2008 02:23:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh dear!</description>
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		<title>By: joe2</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/06/04/wheres-the-qualitative-newspoll/#comment-475668</link>
		<dc:creator>joe2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jun 2008 02:06:41 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/06/04/wheres-the-qualitative-newspoll/#comment-475668</guid>
		<description>Funny that, Mark@18.

Jon Faine interviewed Rudd this morning. One of his questions was inevitably..now that Obama has the job, do you now regret supporting Hillary? Or something close to that. A good thing Ken has left the country and missed it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Funny that, Mark@18.</p>
<p>Jon Faine interviewed Rudd this morning. One of his questions was inevitably..now that Obama has the job, do you now regret supporting Hillary? Or something close to that. A good thing Ken has left the country and missed it.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/06/04/wheres-the-qualitative-newspoll/#comment-475569</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 16:12:24 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/06/04/wheres-the-qualitative-newspoll/#comment-475569</guid>
		<description>Ken Lovell's had an unsatisfactory response to a complaint he made to the ABC:

http://www.roadtosurfdom.com/2008/06/06/abc-complaint/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ken Lovell&#8217;s had an unsatisfactory response to a complaint he made to the ABC:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.roadtosurfdom.com/2008/06/06/abc-complaint/" rel="nofollow">http://www.roadtosurfdom.com/2008/06/06/abc-complaint/</a></p>
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		<title>By: joe2</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/06/04/wheres-the-qualitative-newspoll/#comment-475362</link>
		<dc:creator>joe2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 01:32:59 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/06/04/wheres-the-qualitative-newspoll/#comment-475362</guid>
		<description>"This went all the way through the world’s second longest election campaign last year, too, with the bug-eyed Michael Brissenden appearing nightly on the 7.30 Report to provide the boilerplate analysis: “What happens next is anyone’s guess. But for now, one thing is certain - the Rudd honeymoon is over.” 

This line is now repeated as a mantra at the top of the ABC news bulletin every night, as a sort of product guarantee (trying so hard not to be seen leaning left, that it falls over to the right)."
..........Mr Denmore @7, 

Jon Faine, on local ABC Melbourne, had a chat with Barry Cassidy this morning. "The Rudd honeymoon is over", apparently. Yep, those famous words again. 

The negativity towards Labor and Rudd was most obvious while caller criticism of the former Howard government members, actively discouraged. The brainwashing of all but a few Aunty hosts is quite breathtaking. It obviously extends well beyond the so called, "7PM news", Mark.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;This went all the way through the world’s second longest election campaign last year, too, with the bug-eyed Michael Brissenden appearing nightly on the 7.30 Report to provide the boilerplate analysis: “What happens next is anyone’s guess. But for now, one thing is certain - the Rudd honeymoon is over.” </p>
<p>This line is now repeated as a mantra at the top of the ABC news bulletin every night, as a sort of product guarantee (trying so hard not to be seen leaning left, that it falls over to the right).&#8221;<br />
&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.Mr Denmore @7, </p>
<p>Jon Faine, on local ABC Melbourne, had a chat with Barry Cassidy this morning. &#8220;The Rudd honeymoon is over&#8221;, apparently. Yep, those famous words again. </p>
<p>The negativity towards Labor and Rudd was most obvious while caller criticism of the former Howard government members, actively discouraged. The brainwashing of all but a few Aunty hosts is quite breathtaking. It obviously extends well beyond the so called, &#8220;7PM news&#8221;, Mark.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew E</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/06/04/wheres-the-qualitative-newspoll/#comment-475181</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew E</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 12:31:11 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/06/04/wheres-the-qualitative-newspoll/#comment-475181</guid>
		<description>Firstly, qualitative polling is shrouded in mystery. It's enormously powerful and very few people have seen it - those who do feel very privileged indeed, and behave accordingly. For a while (in a period that seems long ago but wasn't), the second-most powerful man in the party that governed the nation was not Peter Costello but Mark Textor. You don't see qualitative polling in the newspaper for the same reason that you can't get details of the Westpac-St George merger by popping in to your local branch. Letting sunlight in on mystery, and all that.

Secondly, it's vacuous and ultimately unsatisfying to read about what &lt;i&gt;might&lt;/i&gt; happen, rather than what has happened or does happen. It can be comforting to live in a world where your own urges and prejudices are refracted back at you, but it doesn't prepare you for events which affect you but which you and your equally narrow-minded "leaders" can't foresee in the hall of mirrors. 
 
Insofar as this is important, it's how "our leaders" react that is where the news really is. How the delivery of government services is affected by the "Rudd honeymoon" is unclear to me - perhaps I need to start reading different media.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Firstly, qualitative polling is shrouded in mystery. It&#8217;s enormously powerful and very few people have seen it - those who do feel very privileged indeed, and behave accordingly. For a while (in a period that seems long ago but wasn&#8217;t), the second-most powerful man in the party that governed the nation was not Peter Costello but Mark Textor. You don&#8217;t see qualitative polling in the newspaper for the same reason that you can&#8217;t get details of the Westpac-St George merger by popping in to your local branch. Letting sunlight in on mystery, and all that.</p>
<p>Secondly, it&#8217;s vacuous and ultimately unsatisfying to read about what <i>might</i> happen, rather than what has happened or does happen. It can be comforting to live in a world where your own urges and prejudices are refracted back at you, but it doesn&#8217;t prepare you for events which affect you but which you and your equally narrow-minded &#8220;leaders&#8221; can&#8217;t foresee in the hall of mirrors. </p>
<p>Insofar as this is important, it&#8217;s how &#8220;our leaders&#8221; react that is where the news really is. How the delivery of government services is affected by the &#8220;Rudd honeymoon&#8221; is unclear to me - perhaps I need to start reading different media.</p>
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		<title>By: Kim</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/06/04/wheres-the-qualitative-newspoll/#comment-475169</link>
		<dc:creator>Kim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 12:03:41 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/06/04/wheres-the-qualitative-newspoll/#comment-475169</guid>
		<description>Thanks, Fine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Fine.</p>
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		<title>By: Fine</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/06/04/wheres-the-qualitative-newspoll/#comment-475163</link>
		<dc:creator>Fine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 11:55:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When he was in opposition he gave them a dreadful grilling about advertising revenue in Senate estimates. Apparently, he also has some concern about editorial policy and where the money is being spent -  that's the rumour anyway. The dilemma for SBS is trying to attract advertising revenue whilst still convincing government they should be getting government subsidy as well. It's a bit of a tightrope.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When he was in opposition he gave them a dreadful grilling about advertising revenue in Senate estimates. Apparently, he also has some concern about editorial policy and where the money is being spent -  that&#8217;s the rumour anyway. The dilemma for SBS is trying to attract advertising revenue whilst still convincing government they should be getting government subsidy as well. It&#8217;s a bit of a tightrope.</p>
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		<title>By: Kim</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/06/04/wheres-the-qualitative-newspoll/#comment-475158</link>
		<dc:creator>Kim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 11:44:51 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/06/04/wheres-the-qualitative-newspoll/#comment-475158</guid>
		<description>What's he not happy about, Fine?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What&#8217;s he not happy about, Fine?</p>
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		<title>By: Fine</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/06/04/wheres-the-qualitative-newspoll/#comment-475157</link>
		<dc:creator>Fine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 11:43:09 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/06/04/wheres-the-qualitative-newspoll/#comment-475157</guid>
		<description>That rumours going around for a long time. But what's heating it up now is that Conroy isn't very happy about SBS.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That rumours going around for a long time. But what&#8217;s heating it up now is that Conroy isn&#8217;t very happy about SBS.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/06/04/wheres-the-qualitative-newspoll/#comment-475090</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 08:25:03 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/06/04/wheres-the-qualitative-newspoll/#comment-475090</guid>
		<description>Thanks, Fine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Fine.</p>
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		<title>By: joe2</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/06/04/wheres-the-qualitative-newspoll/#comment-475085</link>
		<dc:creator>joe2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 07:58:38 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/06/04/wheres-the-qualitative-newspoll/#comment-475085</guid>
		<description>"I might try to see if I can get their attention in some other way than putting in a pointless complaint!"

You might need the bricks for building at some time in the future. So don't waste them. And adrian, there is a bit of a rumour around of merger plans for ABC and SBS. Both boards would then need to be dismantled as a result. Hooray.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I might try to see if I can get their attention in some other way than putting in a pointless complaint!&#8221;</p>
<p>You might need the bricks for building at some time in the future. So don&#8217;t waste them. And adrian, there is a bit of a rumour around of merger plans for ABC and SBS. Both boards would then need to be dismantled as a result. Hooray.</p>
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		<title>By: Fine</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/06/04/wheres-the-qualitative-newspoll/#comment-475075</link>
		<dc:creator>Fine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 07:26:59 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/06/04/wheres-the-qualitative-newspoll/#comment-475075</guid>
		<description>Here's the link again.
http://www.abc.net.au/corp/pubs/service.htm

I agree you'll probably get fobbed off, but I guess you can try!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s the link again.<br />
<a href="http://www.abc.net.au/corp/pubs/service.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.abc.net.au/corp/pubs/service.htm</a></p>
<p>I agree you&#8217;ll probably get fobbed off, but I guess you can try!</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/06/04/wheres-the-qualitative-newspoll/#comment-475070</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 07:18:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/06/04/wheres-the-qualitative-newspoll/#comment-475070</guid>
		<description>I might try to see if I can get their attention in some other way than putting in a pointless complaint!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I might try to see if I can get their attention in some other way than putting in a pointless complaint!</p>
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		<title>By: Mr Denmore</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/06/04/wheres-the-qualitative-newspoll/#comment-475066</link>
		<dc:creator>Mr Denmore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 07:07:37 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/06/04/wheres-the-qualitative-newspoll/#comment-475066</guid>
		<description>I've noticed the ABC's new disposition to almost revel in negative headlines about the Rudd government.

It's almost as if Juanita Phillips is saying "See...we're not a nest of lefties after all".

This went all the way through the world's second longest election campaign last year, too, with the bug-eyed Michael Brissenden appearing nightly on the 7.30 Report to provide the boilerplate analysis: "What happens next is anyone's guess. But for now, one thing is certain - the Rudd honeymoon is over." 

This line is now repeated as a mantra at the top of the ABC news bulletin every night, as a sort of product guarantee (trying so hard not to be seen leaning left, that it falls over to the right).

Someone needs to tell them that the election was decided seven months ago. And the other guys lost.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve noticed the ABC&#8217;s new disposition to almost revel in negative headlines about the Rudd government.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s almost as if Juanita Phillips is saying &#8220;See&#8230;we&#8217;re not a nest of lefties after all&#8221;.</p>
<p>This went all the way through the world&#8217;s second longest election campaign last year, too, with the bug-eyed Michael Brissenden appearing nightly on the 7.30 Report to provide the boilerplate analysis: &#8220;What happens next is anyone&#8217;s guess. But for now, one thing is certain - the Rudd honeymoon is over.&#8221; </p>
<p>This line is now repeated as a mantra at the top of the ABC news bulletin every night, as a sort of product guarantee (trying so hard not to be seen leaning left, that it falls over to the right).</p>
<p>Someone needs to tell them that the election was decided seven months ago. And the other guys lost.</p>
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		<title>By: adrian</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/06/04/wheres-the-qualitative-newspoll/#comment-475053</link>
		<dc:creator>adrian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 06:01:25 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/06/04/wheres-the-qualitative-newspoll/#comment-475053</guid>
		<description>From my experience you receive a generic response, which although superficially tailored to your specific request, says absolutely nothing, but takes about 500 words to say it. This achieves the dual purpose of appearing to be reponsive to listener feedback, while effectively telling the listener to fuck off.
Modern management techniques have a lot to answer for.

BTW, why doesn't Rudd make some strategic changes to the ABC board? The Opposition Organ may get a little hot under the collar, but so what? The ABC just gets worse and worse!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From my experience you receive a generic response, which although superficially tailored to your specific request, says absolutely nothing, but takes about 500 words to say it. This achieves the dual purpose of appearing to be reponsive to listener feedback, while effectively telling the listener to fuck off.<br />
Modern management techniques have a lot to answer for.</p>
<p>BTW, why doesn&#8217;t Rudd make some strategic changes to the ABC board? The Opposition Organ may get a little hot under the collar, but so what? The ABC just gets worse and worse!</p>
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		<title>By: Fine</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/06/04/wheres-the-qualitative-newspoll/#comment-475040</link>
		<dc:creator>Fine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 05:38:06 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/06/04/wheres-the-qualitative-newspoll/#comment-475040</guid>
		<description>They do have a more formal complaints policy than that and you can follow it through to the bitter end if you want to rigorous about it. I posted it earlier with a link, but maybe it's gone into the spaminator.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They do have a more formal complaints policy than that and you can follow it through to the bitter end if you want to rigorous about it. I posted it earlier with a link, but maybe it&#8217;s gone into the spaminator.</p>
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		<title>By: Lloyd</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/06/04/wheres-the-qualitative-newspoll/#comment-475018</link>
		<dc:creator>Lloyd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 05:00:10 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/06/04/wheres-the-qualitative-newspoll/#comment-475018</guid>
		<description>I've made a few complaints to the ABC re their online news coverage and the fact that half the time it looks like it was written by Janet Albrechtsen or Liberal party staffers.  

This morning's headlines about Rudd being 'Keatingesque' complete with big picture of Keating headlined arrogant was appalling.  

They do have a feedback form though no one has ever responded when I've sent feedback or complaints to them.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/contact/feedback.htm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve made a few complaints to the ABC re their online news coverage and the fact that half the time it looks like it was written by Janet Albrechtsen or Liberal party staffers.  </p>
<p>This morning&#8217;s headlines about Rudd being &#8216;Keatingesque&#8217; complete with big picture of Keating headlined arrogant was appalling.  </p>
<p>They do have a feedback form though no one has ever responded when I&#8217;ve sent feedback or complaints to them.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.abc.net.au/news/contact/feedback.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.abc.net.au/news/contact/feedback.htm</a></p>
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		<title>By: Fine</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/06/04/wheres-the-qualitative-newspoll/#comment-474991</link>
		<dc:creator>Fine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 04:07:39 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/06/04/wheres-the-qualitative-newspoll/#comment-474991</guid>
		<description>Your question prompted me to have a quick look around theri website and voila!
http://www.abc.net.au/corp/pubs/service.htm#complaints

Not sure if to will do you any good, however.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your question prompted me to have a quick look around theri website and voila!<br />
<a href="http://www.abc.net.au/corp/pubs/service.htm#complaints" rel="nofollow">http://www.abc.net.au/corp/pubs/service.htm#complaints</a></p>
<p>Not sure if to will do you any good, however.</p>
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		<title>By: David Rubie</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/06/04/wheres-the-qualitative-newspoll/#comment-474990</link>
		<dc:creator>David Rubie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 04:06:59 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/06/04/wheres-the-qualitative-newspoll/#comment-474990</guid>
		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Does anyone know how to make a complaint to the ABC?&lt;/blockquote&gt;
You're better off asking that question at Catallaxy, although the amount of bitching done about the ABC is probably inversely proportional to the amount of considered complaints they make.

I'm not sure the Australian is all that interested in qualitative polling - after all, they're after fodder to keep the spin engine rotating, not actual facts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Does anyone know how to make a complaint to the ABC?</p></blockquote>
<p>You&#8217;re better off asking that question at Catallaxy, although the amount of bitching done about the ABC is probably inversely proportional to the amount of considered complaints they make.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure the Australian is all that interested in qualitative polling - after all, they&#8217;re after fodder to keep the spin engine rotating, not actual facts.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/06/04/wheres-the-qualitative-newspoll/#comment-474977</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 03:47:56 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/06/04/wheres-the-qualitative-newspoll/#comment-474977</guid>
		<description>As requested, here's the ABC's complaints page - http://www.abc.net.au/contact/complaints.htm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As requested, here&#8217;s the ABC&#8217;s complaints page - <a href="http://www.abc.net.au/contact/complaints.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.abc.net.au/contact/complaints.htm</a></p>
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