Saturday Salon

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48 Responses to “Saturday Salon”


  1. 1 Alex on the BusNo Gravatar

    Ah, the joy of frist…

  2. 2 David RubieNo Gravatar

    We are stardust
    we are golden
    we are billion year old carbon
    and we’ve got to get ourselves
    back to the garden.

    Dirty corporate hippies should have listened to their own advice.

  3. 3 Pavlov's CatNo Gravatar

    Oi, no bashing Joni.

  4. 4 dk.auNo Gravatar

    If you’re in Melbourne, go see Bonde Do Role when they play down there. Best live show I’ve seen since !!! last year.

  5. 5 naskingNo Gravatar

    Bit corny…but I love the lyrics, musicians…& the effort:

    (kitaro & jon anderson / island of life)

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nx0Q0Of_CXo

  6. 6 ZoeNo Gravatar

    The Devil Drink is providing advice and guidance to those who seek it: The Alcholoical Oracle

  7. 7 naskingNo Gravatar

    Was just reading about the Silk Road on Wikipedia…interesting stuff.

    Then played this:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZoURE7kheKg&feature=related

    (Kitaro- Silk Road)

    Brings back memories. Got into Kitaro in Vienna around the same time as we bought The Friends of Mr. Cairo by Jon & Vangelis…& heard Jean Michel Jarre for the first time on a early version of the Walkman, under a mutli-coloured globe…very cool. Was also into Tangerine Dream, Ennio Morricone & Mike Oldfield.

    From what I recall we didn’t have a TV…just an old radio. Remember listening to the news and hearin’ Maggie Thatcher had gone thru a metamorphosis by way of the Falklands and come out the other side as an Iron Woman. Like a certain Aussie Superman that is no more. Does the same fate await Captain Britain?

    Was reading Kafka at the time & thought “hmmm…”. Those NATIONAL broadcasts were delivered at FEVER PITCH but I couldn’t stop yawning. And shaking my head befuddled. Then I heard the flags were being frantically waved, Royals were the toast of the town, the music became jingoistic. Then it all became clear…& eventually the Unions got bashed courtesy of Rupert et al…”leader of the pack”. So I cancelled my trip to the UK & headed to Australia. Better CHOICE.

    Picked up The Church, U2 & Simple Minds as we travelled the Great Southern Land.

  8. 8 naskingNo Gravatar

    Wasn’t long before we got thirsty…were asking:

    How Soon is Now?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2NrIALcNOw

    From Hatful Of Hollow & Aussie version of Meat Is Murder…

    More rain. Cool. But I was hoping to mow the lawn. Will just cut palm fronds instead. Sigh. Still, plenty of Farscape recorded…rain just might’ve come in handy. Fills QLD dams too. Lucky Labor. But I guess they were thinking ahead on the recycled bit. Come in handy for schools & ovals. And drilling for gas? And DRY days.

    Have a goodie.

  9. 9 Pavlov's CatNo Gravatar

    Went to see the Audreys last night — best $35 I’ve spent in a very long time. Hope to get a post written about it later today.

  10. 10 Paul BurnsNo Gravatar

    The problems of having slightly impaired vision- Yesterday, I splurged out on a caramel sticky date cake with a hole in the middle. Except, while it was still in its plastic cover, I didn’t think there was a hole in the middle. I thought it was a big two or three inch circle thick wad of dark chocolate. You can imagine my disappointment when I opened it when I got home. Still, it was nice, and I’ve managed to be abstemious enough not to have gobbled the lot yet.

  11. 11 sublime cowgirlNo Gravatar

    mmm … sticky date pudding - the only thing worth buying from those unmentionable burger chains.

  12. 12 adrianNo Gravatar

    Damn it nasking, still listening to April by Sun Kil Moon - if this isn’t the best CD I’ve heard since their last release, I’ll eat my CD player.

    And yes, leave Joni alone Mr Rubie.

  13. 13 Tyro RexNo Gravatar

    Stuff folk music - I’m going to see SPOD tonight!

  14. 14 naskingNo Gravatar

    “Damn it nasking, still listening to April by Sun Kil Moon - if this isn’t the best CD I’ve heard since their last release, I’ll eat my CD player.”

    adrian, doesn’t it go down a treat? Kozalek has the most amazing voice. Dripping w/ pathos, reluctant acceptance…sometimes yearning. You could imagine him living in a cabin off Walden Pond. Or walkin’ on a wet, windswept day under an abandoned rollercoaster…lookin’ out to the worried sea.

    I recently downloaded from Emusic Robert Forster: The Evangelist, Andrew Bird: Soldier On, Norfolk & Western: The Unsung Colony, Seekonk: Pinkwood, Aidan John Moffat (from Arab Strap): I Can Hear Your Heart, Biosphere: Substrata, Frightened Rabbit: Live at Urban. I’ll throw them into the Yamaha & hit random this evening. Find somethin’ smooth to go down w/ them. Any suggestions? I only do the sobriety thing during the week now…:)

    A trip down memory lane:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AKRA7weVyLs

    (Carry Me , Ohio - from Sun Kil Moon’s LP Ghosts of the Great Highway -2003)

  15. 15 sublime cowgirlNo Gravatar

    Frank Black weekend for me.

  16. 16 BilkoNo Gravatar

    Tax relief query, When families break up the parent left without custody is required quite rightly to pay child maintenance. A lot do and find themselves in a financial straight jacket if they start a second relationship or remarry.

    Broken marriages are very prominent in some professions police, military etc. Correct me if I am wrong but the noncustodial parent cannot claim tax relief as the children are living elsewhere.

    I think at the very least they should be able to claim tax relief on the maintenance payments it might persuade more defaulters to pay and ease the overall centrelink outlays if I am completely off base someone please advise

  17. 17 naskingNo Gravatar

    A previous incarnation:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NFQ4nuUuwNo&feature=related

    (Red House Painters - Katy Song)

    Need to pick up Frank Black’s latest. Enjoy sublime cowgirl.

    Speaking of intensity, just remembered a mate sent me Bob Mould’s District Line, he was full bore last time I saw him live, worked up a lather, much slimmer than in most vids. Almost robotic strangely. Think it was the Modulate tour….or was it Body of Song? Time gets blurred these days.

    Note to self: must put on some Sugar & Husker Du & old Mould next week. And Kristin Hersh, Throwing Muses.

    And adrian, Saddleback: Night Maps (NSW muso) is easy to lose yourself in.

  18. 18 adrianNo Gravatar

    Since you asked nasking, I’d go for a good shiraz, something like a Kilikanoon Killerman’s Run 2005, which the two of us partaking the other day thought was the best shiraz we’d had for quite some time.

    BTW, I was thinking of buying the new Robert Forster, so I’d be interested in our opinion.

    Carry Me Ohio was the song that got me interested in Kozalek after giving up on the Red House Painters. Anyway, Moorestown is one of the highlights of April, but you’ll have to excuse the crappy video: [link]

  19. 19 adrianNo Gravatar

    Make that your opinion..

  20. 20 sublime cowgirlNo Gravatar

    Havn’t heard the album, but a promo image i have stuck on my fridge has him in a suit looking eerily similar to Bryan Ferry.

    Nice.

  21. 21 E.E. HortonNo Gravatar

    Here’s a real shocker:

    “A new study by a team of political scientists and sociologists at the journal Environmental Politics concludes that 9 out of 10 books published since 1972 that have disputed the seriousness of environmental problems and mainstream science can be linked to a conservative think tank (CTT).”

    http://scienceblogs.com/deltoid/2008/06/the_denial_industrial_complex.php

    Like mushrooms righties live in the dark and are fed sh*t.

  22. 22 naskingNo Gravatar

    Couldn’t agree w/ you more regarding Moorestown. Absolutely moving.
    Thnx for the recommendation. Luv a good drop of Shiraz. Will try next weekend if I can find it. Carlo Russo’s Wine World makes it sound delightful:

    Bright, brick red in color with crimson tints. Ripe, bold and lifted Shiraz flavors predominate the nose, rich plum fruits, coffee and chocolate supported by the French and American oak. Made to showcase the unique flavours of Shiraz, the palate tends to be fruit driven but balanced and lengthened by the older oak flavours. A sweet mid palate, soft tannins and warmth of character have created a wine with both power and finesse. Cellaring potential of at least 6 – 8 years.

    Listeing to Robert Forster now…Demon Days is a standout…the last song written together w/ Grant McLennan before his sad passing…I remember writing a condolence message by way of Steve Kilbey’s site (or somethin’ like that), hit home hard. The song seems to reflect well the hopelessness many were feeling under King John…& the reflections that come for some w/ middle age:

    Demon Days
    from the 2008 album ‘The Evangelist’.

    In these demon days
    We’re pulling our pay
    The lights on the hill
    Are freezing us still
    The fingers of fate
    Stretch out and take
    Us to a night
    But something’s not right
    Something’s gone wrong

    The half whispered hopes
    The dreams that we smoked
    Puffed up and ran
    As only dreams can
    Dreamt by the young
    Sparks to be sung
    In places so bright
    But something’s not right
    Something’s gone wrong

    Sad Grant didn’t get to feel the new day rising under Labor. Let’s hope the air remains fresh….gets cleaner.

  23. 23 naskingNo Gravatar

    adrian sometimes I use

    http://www.metacritic.com/music/artists/forsterrobert/evangelist

    to get an idea of an LP. And YouTube of course. Pitchfork is a site I hit alot. Their review of The Evagelist captures much of what I feel. But I try not to judge LPs much from first listen. Amazing how they can grow on you over the years. You start hearing the variety of instruments…&/or chord changes etc. underneath. Layers of meaning in lyrics. I’m sure you do same.

    It’s a tight little package this LP. And nice & jangly in places. But feels like it’s awaiting more input from someone sadly missing. Worth having tho.

  24. 24 ZarquonNo Gravatar

    Looks like you’ve fractured their fairy tale, Ed.

  25. 25 naskingNo Gravatar

    “Similarly, the self-portrayal of sceptics as marginalised ‘Davids’ battling the powerful ‘Goliath’ of environmentalists and environmental scientists is a charade, as sceptics are supported by politically powerful CTTs funded by wealthy foundations and corporations.”
    (Deltoid)

    Thnx for the link E.E. Horton. Nothing surprised me these days. The charade continues…but the sock puppets & constructers are revealed by the day. And where it stops, nobody knows. Time for a spring cleaning come in the American summer.

    If I hear one more weepy story about Hillary & “she lost because she’s a woman” or “the media beat her up” I think i’ll puke up my Corona w/ Tabasco in it.

    SHE LOST because she played a crappy game of OBVIOUS TRIANGULATION. Used hubby & media outlets & irritating phonecalls to stir up racism…divide & conquer by intimiINSANITY comments…the speeches were often insipid & carbon copies w/out the colour of Obama’s…she made that horrendous VOTE that was a GIVEAWAY…her leading men & women are bullies & corrupt as sh*t…& no matter how much they CHEATED, the sense of THE LIGHT COMING came out on top.

    Now we have to check the source of the light.

    So ENUFF already.

    Hillary…take a holiday. Go join Rupie in NY. I’m sure you have alot to talk about…have a VB together. Some Victorians luv their BITTER these days.

  26. 26 naskingNo Gravatar

    Later on I intend to make the case for Jim Webb as VP.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KKRMTkutuMA

    (Barack Obama/Jim Webb vs John Mccain - Veteran GI Bill)

    No tomatoes thrown. And James A. Michener read. Thoughts of the The Sand Pebbles.

  27. 27 naskingNo Gravatar

    Well, apart from the NEW WORLD. And taking on the Neo-Cons in their Virginian base (whole lotta stuff there), I guess I pretty well already made the bulk of the case for Webb.

    Ya know, it really comes down to where we are on THE STRING…some string eh?

    So…IF I WERE A RICH MAN, i’d spend alot to tell you WHY YOU SHOULD…but I had a penchant for anything that tasted like caramel.

    Intead, I’m gonna defend a friend…at heart, mind…& groin, at least.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYRsH3hogXw&feature=related

    (Woody Allen - Introduction to Love and Death)

    To the SMH…hutzpah works better when you don’t use platforms to look taller than your sibling. Someday you need to slip off the shoes & go out & work.

  28. 28 naskingNo Gravatar

    A few of our fave films…we used to go to OUT…festivals & such before THE CAGING:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-5GT77fbEM&feature=related

    (Let Go - When Night is Falling)

    Will there be another EXPO in Brisbane? So may beautiful friends LEFT to Sydney.

    Even stopped listening to music on the rocking horse. Too busy. Watchin’ suits go buy/by.

  29. 29 naskingNo Gravatar

    Can Hillary MOVE beyond the PERCEPTION of the owned by CORPORATE SWINE thing?…& not blame the PATRIARCH? BASED on the sofa kinda GUY he is…MONSTER of SEX, LOVE & ROCK & shift to the RIGHT by PHOTO?

    Can SHE-…MALE?…HEROINE…FREE the EXPLOITED…not take for granted the word BIRD? I’d WELCOME her if she could. So would my PARTNER…LONG TIME COMPANION.

    We’d hear the Mermaids Singing

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LobJiV1rkQ0

    Ho sentito le sirene cantare

    A real Wonder Woman. With saving LIVES on her mind.

    “Gosh, sometimes I think my head is like a gas tank, you have to be really careful what you put into it ’cause it might just affect the whole system”

    It’s the Canuck in me. Da da do…da da da…da do…dA………DO

  30. 30 naskingNo Gravatar

    MULTI bleedin’ work:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75wusZCurCw

    Let’s drink Thatcher’s poison. Raj on black hole wasn’t it?

  31. 31 naskingNo Gravatar

    So yea…want yer LIBERATION? Yer INDEPENDENCE?

    Yer DEMOCRACY?

    That’s cool.

    But it doesn’t come just by watching TV.

    Takin’ it FOR GRANTED.

    We HOPE everyday…every MOMENT we haven’t missed something.

    Sometimes YOU think WE THINK too much.

    Get seemingly too INTENSE.

    BORING!!!

    YOU MISTAKE US for the OTHER.

    The FEAR-MONGERS, THE PROFITEERS…

    the GLASS HALF-EMPTY

    Hey! Sometimes WE all SURF.

    Sometimes we all see the WISDOM. Of the ELDERS.

    Not the HATE. That neglects the DREAMTIME.

    But sometimes…our GENES…go haywire.

    In the TIME of XENOPHOBIA. The PROTECTION. THE fear that someone will break that glass OWNED-THING. In the TRAUMA of our TIMES.

    Sometimes HEROES are MADE in the moment that FIELDS are QUESTIONED in their SERVITUDE response.

    It’s a BATTLE for YOU…& US…& OUR FREEDOM.

    YEARS AGO. CHOICE was MADE.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_DyBVdeYH30

    JOIN US.

    Again…it’s TIME…for…A CHANGE.

    Give the FUTURE

    a SIGN

    OBAMA 08

    No more writings on the wall.

  32. 32 Jacques de MolayNo Gravatar

    For those that like their music left-of-centre I just recently came across this band, Carny. They consider themselves “Psychedelic/Blues/Punk” and the song “Hand In The Fire” is a ripper. Like a more out there Babes In Toyland. Oh and the singer ‘Formica’ paints herself green ;)

    http://www.myspace.com/carnymusic

  33. 33 naskingNo Gravatar

    I love songs about old horses:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nNrs1ZspVyc

    (1900 — a tribute)

  34. 34 naskingNo Gravatar

    STOP

    While this BEAUT country

    has the chance:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vj6v1jyqAq8&feature=related

    don’t let your BRIDGES fester

  35. 35 naskingNo Gravatar

    Don’t let the children be LOST

    in our GAMES

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nNrs1ZspVyc

    tho I might add

    i Did it for the ONES who NEVER HAD

    surely we can JOIN TOGETHER

    RIGHT NOW

    OVER

    THEM

    ???

  36. 36 naskingNo Gravatar
  37. 37 naskingNo Gravatar

    Panda Bear - “Comfy In Nautica”

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=25_gjUbvqNg

  38. 38 naskingNo Gravatar

    The Black Angels - Sniper at the Gates of Heaven

    ever tired of the same old bolts and screws?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RT7e843nWfg

  39. 39 naskingNo Gravatar

    Black Angels, “Black Grease”

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQTkOP60bGg

    I will not STOP until YOU do GW

  40. 40 naskingNo Gravatar

    When I was a boy, my heroes:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_USp_Bv8Ho8

  41. 41 naskingNo Gravatar

    Bobby Hull Montage - Part I CHICAGO BLACKHAWKS

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uoCONk_jKl4

  42. 42 naskingNo Gravatar

    Tony Esposito Montage CHICAGO BLACKHAWKS

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WZ7qqs5mYQs

  43. 43 OzNo Gravatar

    I was amused reading Barnaby’s Op/Ed in the SMH as he stated that the Nationals are an agrarian socialist party

  44. 44 Paul BurnsNo Gravatar

    Oz @ 43,
    Yep. Barnaby’s right. Doesn’t mean they’re left wing though. Theryu were dounded in the days when Labor was a Socialist party and controlled lots of bush seats. So they had to be agrarian socialists to win. Conservative socialists.

  45. 45 David RubieNo Gravatar

    Why can’t I have a bash on Joni? That whole crew (Crosby, Joni, Dylan etc) wasted acres of vinyl on social protest and environmental awareness and didn’t believe a single word they ever sang apparently. None of them changed anything permanently and the generation that grew up listening to them were the worst environmental vandals in history. Consciousness raising sells records, but it didn’t change attitudes. If Crosby or Joni Mitchell had spent a quarter of what they did on cocaine on social projects, half the worlds problems would be solved. Ignorant, selfish and stupid enough (especially Mitchell) lately to start lecturing Gen-X on their non-activism via the pages of music magazines like Mojo, she can kiss my hairy butt.

  46. 46 FineNo Gravatar

    But what do you really think, David?

  47. 47 Tyro RexNo Gravatar

    Why can’t I have a bash on Joni? That whole crew (Crosby, Joni, Dylan etc) wasted acres of vinyl on social protest and environmental awareness and didn’t believe a single word they ever sang apparently. None of them changed anything permanently and the generation that grew up listening to them were the worst environmental vandals in history. Consciousness raising sells records, but it didn’t change attitudes. If Crosby or Joni Mitchell had spent a quarter of what they did on cocaine on social projects, half the worlds problems would be solved. Ignorant, selfish and stupid enough (especially Mitchell) lately to start lecturing Gen-X on their non-activism via the pages of music magazines like Mojo, she can kiss my hairy butt.

    +1

  48. 48 Graham BellNo Gravatar

    Everyone:

    With so much discussion of modern music in this Saturday Salon, it’s a wonder j-p-z of Brooklyn hasn’t chimed in.

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