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	<title>Comments on: Springborg: against fishy feminisation</title>
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		<title>By: Sam Clifford</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/06/17/springborg-against-fishy-feminisation/#comment-478796</link>
		<dc:creator>Sam Clifford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 21:58:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Paul Walter @ 11, no I certainly do not lean slightly to the conservative side.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paul Walter @ 11, no I certainly do not lean slightly to the conservative side.</p>
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		<title>By: paul walter</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/06/17/springborg-against-fishy-feminisation/#comment-478743</link>
		<dc:creator>paul walter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 13:58:02 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/06/17/springborg-against-fishy-feminisation/#comment-478743</guid>
		<description>Sam Clifford do you lean slightly to the conservative side of politics?
ALL politics inthis country is crazy and self-defeating at the mo. 
It's bad whoever you vote for.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sam Clifford do you lean slightly to the conservative side of politics?<br />
ALL politics inthis country is crazy and self-defeating at the mo.<br />
It&#8217;s bad whoever you vote for.</p>
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		<title>By: philiptravers</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/06/17/springborg-against-fishy-feminisation/#comment-478710</link>
		<dc:creator>philiptravers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 12:04:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I suppose,I  suppose.Then again in Victoria we have a Minister that has ky at the end of her name that have made train tickets in costs... flights to other planets.According to A.M. ABC. In comparison,Springborg would still have his feet on the ground,albeit in a befuddled manner,and the Female in Victoria,is,if someone asked me...Off the Planet! B Kos you are mine,I walk the line! Hey! Kidz! From what song is that line from!?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I suppose,I  suppose.Then again in Victoria we have a Minister that has ky at the end of her name that have made train tickets in costs&#8230; flights to other planets.According to A.M. ABC. In comparison,Springborg would still have his feet on the ground,albeit in a befuddled manner,and the Female in Victoria,is,if someone asked me&#8230;Off the Planet! B Kos you are mine,I walk the line! Hey! Kidz! From what song is that line from!?</p>
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		<title>By: wpd</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/06/17/springborg-against-fishy-feminisation/#comment-478703</link>
		<dc:creator>wpd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 11:26:27 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/06/17/springborg-against-fishy-feminisation/#comment-478703</guid>
		<description>Bob Quinn must be in stitches.  He now has a sinecure based in Singapore as a Trade Commissioner.  He would know only too well his appointment was simply a smokescreen that allowed Bredhauer's appointment as Trade Commissioner to China to fly under the radar.

While Beattie has some claims in Trade, neither Quinn nor Bredhauer have any background or experience that warrant such appointments.

Personally I can't see this takeover by the Nats ever occurring.  Certainly Quinn and Borbidge could agree as could Quinn and the Borg but Quinn and Vaughan or indeed any Nat west of the divide seems totally out of the question.  They barely tolerated each other when in government.

Stuffed if they do but stuffed if they don't.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bob Quinn must be in stitches.  He now has a sinecure based in Singapore as a Trade Commissioner.  He would know only too well his appointment was simply a smokescreen that allowed Bredhauer&#8217;s appointment as Trade Commissioner to China to fly under the radar.</p>
<p>While Beattie has some claims in Trade, neither Quinn nor Bredhauer have any background or experience that warrant such appointments.</p>
<p>Personally I can&#8217;t see this takeover by the Nats ever occurring.  Certainly Quinn and Borbidge could agree as could Quinn and the Borg but Quinn and Vaughan or indeed any Nat west of the divide seems totally out of the question.  They barely tolerated each other when in government.</p>
<p>Stuffed if they do but stuffed if they don&#8217;t.</p>
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		<title>By: Frank Calabrese</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/06/17/springborg-against-fishy-feminisation/#comment-478679</link>
		<dc:creator>Frank Calabrese</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 09:42:40 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/06/17/springborg-against-fishy-feminisation/#comment-478679</guid>
		<description>[It seems the WA Libs are still stuck with Buswell.]
And note that the WA Nationals have split from the Coalition here and the leader has said they will NEVER rejoin it, and will be candidates in all rural seats and also in the metro Upper house Seats.

http://www.nationalswa.com/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[It seems the WA Libs are still stuck with Buswell.]<br />
And note that the WA Nationals have split from the Coalition here and the leader has said they will NEVER rejoin it, and will be candidates in all rural seats and also in the metro Upper house Seats.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.nationalswa.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.nationalswa.com/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Sam Clifford</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/06/17/springborg-against-fishy-feminisation/#comment-478673</link>
		<dc:creator>Sam Clifford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 09:27:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/06/17/springborg-against-fishy-feminisation/#comment-478673</guid>
		<description>If the Coalition parties are intent on fighting over the spoils of defeat and setting themselves up for electoral oblivion, Seeney is their man.  Once the merger is on, the Pineapple Party will have to fight against another party like One Nation which allows all the dissatisfied anti-Labor voters a chance to throw their support behind someone who will at least make a mark.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the Coalition parties are intent on fighting over the spoils of defeat and setting themselves up for electoral oblivion, Seeney is their man.  Once the merger is on, the Pineapple Party will have to fight against another party like One Nation which allows all the dissatisfied anti-Labor voters a chance to throw their support behind someone who will at least make a mark.</p>
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		<title>By: nasking</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/06/17/springborg-against-fishy-feminisation/#comment-478661</link>
		<dc:creator>nasking</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 08:18:57 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/06/17/springborg-against-fishy-feminisation/#comment-478661</guid>
		<description>Tell you a funny story. 

'bout 2 &#38; half weeks ago we went out for dinner w/ my wife's relies. QLD swing voters, all voted for Rudd last time...but usually they're Nat voters...I think two of them voted for One Nation once. After plenty of jovial banter &#38; such we talked serious about pensions &#38; immigration, I made some comments on RTS about the discussion. 

Then I threw in the question:

"What do you think of Springborg's latest ad campaign?"

Stony silence. 

So I explained. They looked befuddled..."never heard of him" said the eldest male. The younger male (in late 40s) agreed. The younger female (early 50s) just shook her head. And the older lady muttered something about "useless". 

I then mentioned the shirt off, ironing moment. Then they remembered. Not a positive word came from those lips. They moved on quickly…as tho I'd brought up some slightly embarrassing moment in QLD history...or something unworthy of discussion.

The Borg just ain't on their radar.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tell you a funny story. </p>
<p>&#8217;bout 2 &amp; half weeks ago we went out for dinner w/ my wife&#8217;s relies. QLD swing voters, all voted for Rudd last time&#8230;but usually they&#8217;re Nat voters&#8230;I think two of them voted for One Nation once. After plenty of jovial banter &amp; such we talked serious about pensions &amp; immigration, I made some comments on RTS about the discussion. </p>
<p>Then I threw in the question:</p>
<p>&#8220;What do you think of Springborg&#8217;s latest ad campaign?&#8221;</p>
<p>Stony silence. </p>
<p>So I explained. They looked befuddled&#8230;&#8221;never heard of him&#8221; said the eldest male. The younger male (in late 40s) agreed. The younger female (early 50s) just shook her head. And the older lady muttered something about &#8220;useless&#8221;. </p>
<p>I then mentioned the shirt off, ironing moment. Then they remembered. Not a positive word came from those lips. They moved on quickly…as tho I&#8217;d brought up some slightly embarrassing moment in QLD history&#8230;or something unworthy of discussion.</p>
<p>The Borg just ain&#8217;t on their radar.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/06/17/springborg-against-fishy-feminisation/#comment-478643</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 07:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/06/17/springborg-against-fishy-feminisation/#comment-478643</guid>
		<description>Springborg the two time loser, Sam? I don't know why you would expect the Lib factions and egos to suddenly subsume themselves under his aura, or Jeff Seeney to forget and forgive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Springborg the two time loser, Sam? I don&#8217;t know why you would expect the Lib factions and egos to suddenly subsume themselves under his aura, or Jeff Seeney to forget and forgive.</p>
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		<title>By: Sam Clifford</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/06/17/springborg-against-fishy-feminisation/#comment-478634</link>
		<dc:creator>Sam Clifford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 06:46:40 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/06/17/springborg-against-fishy-feminisation/#comment-478634</guid>
		<description>I can't see a joint party room meeting rolling the 'Borg in favour of Nicholls or anyone else the Libs can put up.  Perhaps they can get a Nat to stand as a dummy candidate against Springborg but there's nothing they can say that will get Queensland to vote for them.  Springborg may be completely unable to make a dent in the Government's numbers but he's the most charismatic leader the Nationals are able to put forth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t see a joint party room meeting rolling the &#8216;Borg in favour of Nicholls or anyone else the Libs can put up.  Perhaps they can get a Nat to stand as a dummy candidate against Springborg but there&#8217;s nothing they can say that will get Queensland to vote for them.  Springborg may be completely unable to make a dent in the Government&#8217;s numbers but he&#8217;s the most charismatic leader the Nationals are able to put forth.</p>
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		<title>By: Andos</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/06/17/springborg-against-fishy-feminisation/#comment-478567</link>
		<dc:creator>Andos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 03:12:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It seems the WA Libs are still stuck with Buswell.

I don't see how a merger between the Nats and Libs could work. They have fundamentally opposed basic economic ideologies. Something which was illustrated admirably in the reaction to the Wheat Board legislation currently before the Senate.

Is there some mitigating factor in QLD?

It doesn't really make sense to me...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems the WA Libs are still stuck with Buswell.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t see how a merger between the Nats and Libs could work. They have fundamentally opposed basic economic ideologies. Something which was illustrated admirably in the reaction to the Wheat Board legislation currently before the Senate.</p>
<p>Is there some mitigating factor in QLD?</p>
<p>It doesn&#8217;t really make sense to me&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/06/17/springborg-against-fishy-feminisation/#comment-478558</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 02:32:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brough's election means that the terms of the negotiations for amalgamation aren't a lay down misere for the Nats any more. If he does go into state parliament, I think there'd be more leadership instability for the Borg - facing two ex-Liberal contenders and possibly also Seeney. I really don't think we're going to see viable opposition any way this plays out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brough&#8217;s election means that the terms of the negotiations for amalgamation aren&#8217;t a lay down misere for the Nats any more. If he does go into state parliament, I think there&#8217;d be more leadership instability for the Borg - facing two ex-Liberal contenders and possibly also Seeney. I really don&#8217;t think we&#8217;re going to see viable opposition any way this plays out.</p>
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		<title>By: GW</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/06/17/springborg-against-fishy-feminisation/#comment-478555</link>
		<dc:creator>GW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 02:14:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As comical as the whole saga has been for the past year and a half, I wish they would just get the merger/nonmerger issue over with so that we can have some sort of viable opposition in this state.  How do you think the elevation of Mal Brough to the Qld Libs presidency will change things?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As comical as the whole saga has been for the past year and a half, I wish they would just get the merger/nonmerger issue over with so that we can have some sort of viable opposition in this state.  How do you think the elevation of Mal Brough to the Qld Libs presidency will change things?</p>
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