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	<title>Comments on: Marketised celebrity politics, Australian style</title>
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	<description>Blogging politics, culture, sociology and life from Brisvegas</description>
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		<title>By: Paul Burns</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/06/24/marketised-celebrity-politics-australian-style/#comment-480420</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Burns</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 06:20:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>jethro @ 21,
Not if they were coerced, which seems to be the case. In any case she withdrew it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>jethro @ 21,<br />
Not if they were coerced, which seems to be the case. In any case she withdrew it.</p>
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		<title>By: jethro</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/06/24/marketised-celebrity-politics-australian-style/#comment-480412</link>
		<dc:creator>jethro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 05:25:51 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/06/24/marketised-celebrity-politics-australian-style/#comment-480412</guid>
		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;i&gt;Not mentioned in any of the reports this morning I’ve looked at [...] was the fact that Batten was paid by Channel Nine’s A Current Affair for her story.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
If someone knowingly signs an allegedly false stat dec, then maybe such payment would be considered as "proceeds of crime" and forfeited?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><i>Not mentioned in any of the reports this morning I’ve looked at [&#8230;] was the fact that Batten was paid by Channel Nine’s A Current Affair for her story.</i></p></blockquote>
<p>If someone knowingly signs an allegedly false stat dec, then maybe such payment would be considered as &#8220;proceeds of crime&#8221; and forfeited?</p>
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		<title>By: Chookie</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/06/24/marketised-celebrity-politics-australian-style/#comment-480405</link>
		<dc:creator>Chookie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 05:08:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mark at 10, it would be interesting to know if the soapie-watching demographic likes its political scandals served up the same way.  Day in, day out coverage might be just what the punters want.

Like photos through the fridge, so are the days of our lives...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark at 10, it would be interesting to know if the soapie-watching demographic likes its political scandals served up the same way.  Day in, day out coverage might be just what the punters want.</p>
<p>Like photos through the fridge, so are the days of our lives&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: paul walter</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/06/24/marketised-celebrity-politics-australian-style/#comment-480399</link>
		<dc:creator>paul walter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 04:51:51 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/06/24/marketised-celebrity-politics-australian-style/#comment-480399</guid>
		<description>Ambig, just in case.
Yes did see a report in one of the newspapers, probably Fairfax, a couple of weeks ago. The Junta regard her as disloyal. Just presumed they were using her as a hostage to get the western press off their backs over their aid botch-up. Scum that they are.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ambig, just in case.<br />
Yes did see a report in one of the newspapers, probably Fairfax, a couple of weeks ago. The Junta regard her as disloyal. Just presumed they were using her as a hostage to get the western press off their backs over their aid botch-up. Scum that they are.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Burns</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/06/24/marketised-celebrity-politics-australian-style/#comment-480398</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Burns</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 04:42:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/06/24/marketised-celebrity-politics-australian-style/#comment-480398</guid>
		<description>Iguanagate dies deserve some attention - but really, after a day it should have faded - that it hasn't is entirely trhe fault of Belinda Neal and probably Dellabosca - what on earth were they thinking?!
I find the attempt to tie it to Rudd's office by the Opposition intriguing.
Surely, if Howard was PM. and embtoiled in a similar mess, many of us would say, "Of course he's guilty!" So what's different?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Iguanagate dies deserve some attention - but really, after a day it should have faded - that it hasn&#8217;t is entirely trhe fault of Belinda Neal and probably Dellabosca - what on earth were they thinking?!<br />
I find the attempt to tie it to Rudd&#8217;s office by the Opposition intriguing.<br />
Surely, if Howard was PM. and embtoiled in a similar mess, many of us would say, &#8220;Of course he&#8217;s guilty!&#8221; So what&#8217;s different?</p>
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		<title>By: Terry</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/06/24/marketised-celebrity-politics-australian-style/#comment-480386</link>
		<dc:creator>Terry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 04:08:53 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/06/24/marketised-celebrity-politics-australian-style/#comment-480386</guid>
		<description>I'd also have to disagree on whether "Do you know who I am?" remains a story. The history of comedy is full of the table being turned on authority figures who try and pull rank, and public sentiment is definitely with the proles trying to get the disco dance floor organised at Iguana's as against the tipsy Member for Robertson. 

Peter Ruehl in Saturday' AFR added the line "in case someone had mistaken her for Michelle Obama", which I thought was funny at a few levels, and not just the obvious one. When one looks at "power couple" Della Bosca and Neal alongside Barack and Michelle Obama, it suggests that being players in the US Democratic Party probably entails a healthier lifestyle than that of the NSW Right of the ALP.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d also have to disagree on whether &#8220;Do you know who I am?&#8221; remains a story. The history of comedy is full of the table being turned on authority figures who try and pull rank, and public sentiment is definitely with the proles trying to get the disco dance floor organised at Iguana&#8217;s as against the tipsy Member for Robertson. </p>
<p>Peter Ruehl in Saturday&#8217; AFR added the line &#8220;in case someone had mistaken her for Michelle Obama&#8221;, which I thought was funny at a few levels, and not just the obvious one. When one looks at &#8220;power couple&#8221; Della Bosca and Neal alongside Barack and Michelle Obama, it suggests that being players in the US Democratic Party probably entails a healthier lifestyle than that of the NSW Right of the ALP.</p>
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		<title>By: Ambigulous</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/06/24/marketised-celebrity-politics-australian-style/#comment-480374</link>
		<dc:creator>Ambigulous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 03:39:40 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/06/24/marketised-celebrity-politics-australian-style/#comment-480374</guid>
		<description>Yes, grace: apologies for the omission. But where to stop, eh? ;-)

Paul Walter, are they really planning to flog the Prime Minister of Burma? Was it her fault the cyclone caused such damage? I suppose it must have been. Quite similar to all the acts of "treason" the MDC in Zimbabwe has been guilty of during the recent election campaigns. Pests.

Burma cyclone got a bit of a run for a few weeks, then China quake for a while. One event that seems to have gone relatively unnoticed is the trial of a few Khmer Rouge "leaders" in Phnomh Penh. I mean, they made a Hollywood FILM about that era; so why doesn't the trial "rate"?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, grace: apologies for the omission. But where to stop, eh? <img src='http://larvatusprodeo.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Paul Walter, are they really planning to flog the Prime Minister of Burma? Was it her fault the cyclone caused such damage? I suppose it must have been. Quite similar to all the acts of &#8220;treason&#8221; the MDC in Zimbabwe has been guilty of during the recent election campaigns. Pests.</p>
<p>Burma cyclone got a bit of a run for a few weeks, then China quake for a while. One event that seems to have gone relatively unnoticed is the trial of a few Khmer Rouge &#8220;leaders&#8221; in Phnomh Penh. I mean, they made a Hollywood FILM about that era; so why doesn&#8217;t the trial &#8220;rate&#8221;?</p>
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		<title>By: paul walter</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/06/24/marketised-celebrity-politics-australian-style/#comment-480367</link>
		<dc:creator>paul walter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 03:29:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another issue of immense gravitas getting a run is seat sniffer Buswell again; pairs nicely with Iguanagate for mundanity, and much more life threatening than a hundred thousand suffering battlers dying in China and another hundred thousand in Burma, where the junta is working on getting Aung San Suu Kyi the mother of all floggings, for her pains.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another issue of immense gravitas getting a run is seat sniffer Buswell again; pairs nicely with Iguanagate for mundanity, and much more life threatening than a hundred thousand suffering battlers dying in China and another hundred thousand in Burma, where the junta is working on getting Aung San Suu Kyi the mother of all floggings, for her pains.</p>
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		<title>By: grace pettigrew</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/06/24/marketised-celebrity-politics-australian-style/#comment-480351</link>
		<dc:creator>grace pettigrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 03:01:22 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/06/24/marketised-celebrity-politics-australian-style/#comment-480351</guid>
		<description>And can I add to your list Ambigulous:

"Men and women of Australia...."

At the time, it was huge.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And can I add to your list Ambigulous:</p>
<p>&#8220;Men and women of Australia&#8230;.&#8221;</p>
<p>At the time, it was huge.</p>
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		<title>By: Ambigulous</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/06/24/marketised-celebrity-politics-australian-style/#comment-480349</link>
		<dc:creator>Ambigulous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 02:56:01 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/06/24/marketised-celebrity-politics-australian-style/#comment-480349</guid>
		<description>I beg to differ, Mark.

In my opinion the phrase "Do you know who I am?" will go into the Aussie lexicon along with
* "the recession we had to have"
* "Maintain your rage"
* "We didn't lose the election, we just didn't win enough seats" (Snedden)
* "By 1990 no Australian child will live in poverty"
* "We will decide who comes into Australia, and the manner in which they arrive."
* "If you're seeing this, I've been assassinated."
* "Run over the bastards!" (Askin)
* "All the way with LBJ!" (Holt)

cheerio</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I beg to differ, Mark.</p>
<p>In my opinion the phrase &#8220;Do you know who I am?&#8221; will go into the Aussie lexicon along with<br />
* &#8220;the recession we had to have&#8221;<br />
* &#8220;Maintain your rage&#8221;<br />
* &#8220;We didn&#8217;t lose the election, we just didn&#8217;t win enough seats&#8221; (Snedden)<br />
* &#8220;By 1990 no Australian child will live in poverty&#8221;<br />
* &#8220;We will decide who comes into Australia, and the manner in which they arrive.&#8221;<br />
* &#8220;If you&#8217;re seeing this, I&#8217;ve been assassinated.&#8221;<br />
* &#8220;Run over the bastards!&#8221; (Askin)<br />
* &#8220;All the way with LBJ!&#8221; (Holt)</p>
<p>cheerio</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/06/24/marketised-celebrity-politics-australian-style/#comment-480341</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 02:15:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Heh!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heh!</p>
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		<title>By: adrian</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/06/24/marketised-celebrity-politics-australian-style/#comment-480336</link>
		<dc:creator>adrian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 02:08:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It's just that it is so completely out of proportion, but it's just as well that we don't have any potential war criminals as past and current politicians, otherwise we would get non stop coverage for months and months.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s just that it is so completely out of proportion, but it&#8217;s just as well that we don&#8217;t have any potential war criminals as past and current politicians, otherwise we would get non stop coverage for months and months.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/06/24/marketised-celebrity-politics-australian-style/#comment-480333</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 01:59:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First sentence was a response to GG at 7, crossed with steve.

Steve, there might be a bit of prurient interest in Belinda Neal's phraseology and alleged fridge practices, but I very much doubt that the day in, day out coverage interests that many people at all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First sentence was a response to GG at 7, crossed with steve.</p>
<p>Steve, there might be a bit of prurient interest in Belinda Neal&#8217;s phraseology and alleged fridge practices, but I very much doubt that the day in, day out coverage interests that many people at all.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/06/24/marketised-celebrity-politics-australian-style/#comment-480328</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 01:51:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Or in the remainder bin...

grace, agreed, the FF machinations are potentially a very interesting story, which it would take legwork to follow up. Much easier to write garbage which doesn't require any actual news gathering.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Or in the remainder bin&#8230;</p>
<p>grace, agreed, the FF machinations are potentially a very interesting story, which it would take legwork to follow up. Much easier to write garbage which doesn&#8217;t require any actual news gathering.</p>
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		<title>By: steve from brisbane</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/06/24/marketised-celebrity-politics-australian-style/#comment-480327</link>
		<dc:creator>steve from brisbane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 01:51:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mark, I reckon you're likely way off beam when you say it's only the "political class" interested in the Iguanagate story.  The incident, and publicity it has given to other events in her recent past (especially the "demon baby" comment she was caught out on, and the allegation about photos in the freezer) make people think that she's not only aggressive and but just a bit, well, nuts.  Everyone likes stories about characters like that who have ended up in positions of power or influence, surely.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark, I reckon you&#8217;re likely way off beam when you say it&#8217;s only the &#8220;political class&#8221; interested in the Iguanagate story.  The incident, and publicity it has given to other events in her recent past (especially the &#8220;demon baby&#8221; comment she was caught out on, and the allegation about photos in the freezer) make people think that she&#8217;s not only aggressive and but just a bit, well, nuts.  Everyone likes stories about characters like that who have ended up in positions of power or influence, surely.</p>
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		<title>By: Greensborough Growler</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/06/24/marketised-celebrity-politics-australian-style/#comment-480326</link>
		<dc:creator>Greensborough Growler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 01:44:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The on and off career of Costello is only on till the book is published and stuffed in Christmas stockings.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The on and off career of Costello is only on till the book is published and stuffed in Christmas stockings.</p>
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		<title>By: grace pettigrew</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/06/24/marketised-celebrity-politics-australian-style/#comment-480325</link>
		<dc:creator>grace pettigrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 01:43:53 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/06/24/marketised-celebrity-politics-australian-style/#comment-480325</guid>
		<description>And while the MSM is chasing its own tail, the real stories fly right under the media radar. 

In some 20 short lines in a gossip column, on page 11 of today's Australian, it is reported that Bob Randall, former SA Liberal Party President and former member of Senator Nick Minchin's ministerial staff, is "jumping ship" to join Family First. And Dan Sullivan, WA MP and former Liberal deputy leader is also "jumping ship" to join Family First. And former SA Liberal minister Robert Brokenshire has been preselected by Family First for the SA Upper House.

The press gallery has completely lost the plot if it is unable to see the background machinations and political implications here. I would rather see some decent informed analysis of this scrap of information, than another pathetic beat-up on Rudd's office dynamics or Tip Costello's employment prospects, how boring.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And while the MSM is chasing its own tail, the real stories fly right under the media radar. </p>
<p>In some 20 short lines in a gossip column, on page 11 of today&#8217;s Australian, it is reported that Bob Randall, former SA Liberal Party President and former member of Senator Nick Minchin&#8217;s ministerial staff, is &#8220;jumping ship&#8221; to join Family First. And Dan Sullivan, WA MP and former Liberal deputy leader is also &#8220;jumping ship&#8221; to join Family First. And former SA Liberal minister Robert Brokenshire has been preselected by Family First for the SA Upper House.</p>
<p>The press gallery has completely lost the plot if it is unable to see the background machinations and political implications here. I would rather see some decent informed analysis of this scrap of information, than another pathetic beat-up on Rudd&#8217;s office dynamics or Tip Costello&#8217;s employment prospects, how boring.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/06/24/marketised-celebrity-politics-australian-style/#comment-480308</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 01:06:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe so, Chris, but as I'm saying, good journalism would explore other reasons why she might have wanted to resign - but that's highly unlikely when it's a paid interview.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe so, Chris, but as I&#8217;m saying, good journalism would explore other reasons why she might have wanted to resign - but that&#8217;s highly unlikely when it&#8217;s a paid interview.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/06/24/marketised-celebrity-politics-australian-style/#comment-480305</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 01:04:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mark - well its certainly a more profitable forum. Call it a redundancy package given if what she claims is true, she had no real choice but to resign.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark - well its certainly a more profitable forum. Call it a redundancy package given if what she claims is true, she had no real choice but to resign.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/06/24/marketised-celebrity-politics-australian-style/#comment-480302</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 00:59:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And the most appropriate forum to make such an allegation, Bismarck, is A Current Affair, rather than making a statement to police?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And the most appropriate forum to make such an allegation, Bismarck, is A Current Affair, rather than making a statement to police?</p>
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