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	<title>Comments on: Time to go</title>
	<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/07/13/time-to-go/</link>
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		<title>By: Kim</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/07/13/time-to-go/#comment-489232</link>
		<dc:creator>Kim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 03:20:42 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/07/13/time-to-go/#comment-489232</guid>
		<description>Aaron, I really enjoyed your commentary!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aaron, I really enjoyed your commentary!</p>
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		<title>By: Eye</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/07/13/time-to-go/#comment-488983</link>
		<dc:creator>Eye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 14:00:22 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/07/13/time-to-go/#comment-488983</guid>
		<description>Hi,
Just wanted to say a big thanks for plugging the site, for the past couple of months, very much appreciated! :)
Eye/Aaron (slowly morphing back!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,<br />
Just wanted to say a big thanks for plugging the site, for the past couple of months, very much appreciated! <img src='http://larvatusprodeo.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> Eye/Aaron (slowly morphing back!)</p>
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		<title>By: Kim</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/07/13/time-to-go/#comment-486506</link>
		<dc:creator>Kim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2008 13:30:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/07/13/time-to-go/#comment-486506</guid>
		<description>Well, he doesn't really understand what being a lefty is either! ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, he doesn&#8217;t really understand what being a lefty is either! <img src='http://larvatusprodeo.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Pavlov's Cat</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/07/13/time-to-go/#comment-486504</link>
		<dc:creator>Pavlov's Cat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2008 13:17:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/07/13/time-to-go/#comment-486504</guid>
		<description>If that link is anything to go by, Tim Brunero doesn't appear to understand what narrative actually is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If that link is anything to go by, Tim Brunero doesn&#8217;t appear to understand what narrative actually is.</p>
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		<title>By: Kim</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/07/13/time-to-go/#comment-486501</link>
		<dc:creator>Kim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2008 12:59:42 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/07/13/time-to-go/#comment-486501</guid>
		<description>&lt;b&gt;Just in&lt;/b&gt;: &lt;a href="http://www.livenews.com.au/Articles/2008/07/14/Vale_Big_Brother" rel="nofollow"&gt;"Lefty" Tim Brunero&lt;/a&gt; mourns the demise of BB. Well, he would, wouldn't he?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Just in</b>: <a href="http://www.livenews.com.au/Articles/2008/07/14/Vale_Big_Brother" rel="nofollow">&#8220;Lefty&#8221; Tim Brunero</a> mourns the demise of BB. Well, he would, wouldn&#8217;t he?</p>
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		<title>By: Margo</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/07/13/time-to-go/#comment-486467</link>
		<dc:creator>Margo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2008 09:48:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/07/13/time-to-go/#comment-486467</guid>
		<description>In the early days BB was interesting as it was new but as the years rolled on the participants were very aware of the cameras and seemed to be acting up a bit. For BB to tell someone they were too quiet is off.   Lets hope another channel takes it over and revamps it into something interesting, and ....  can't think of anything else...good luck to them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the early days BB was interesting as it was new but as the years rolled on the participants were very aware of the cameras and seemed to be acting up a bit. For BB to tell someone they were too quiet is off.   Lets hope another channel takes it over and revamps it into something interesting, and &#8230;.  can&#8217;t think of anything else&#8230;good luck to them.</p>
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		<title>By: Zoe</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/07/13/time-to-go/#comment-486465</link>
		<dc:creator>Zoe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2008 09:26:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/07/13/time-to-go/#comment-486465</guid>
		<description>Well, I was a big fan in the past but this year it's all Gladiators (especially &lt;a href="http://stgeorge.yourguide.com.au/multimedia/images/full/137881.jpg" rel="nofollow"&gt;Amazon&lt;/a&gt;) and Battle of the Choirs for us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I was a big fan in the past but this year it&#8217;s all Gladiators (especially <a href="http://stgeorge.yourguide.com.au/multimedia/images/full/137881.jpg" rel="nofollow">Amazon</a>) and Battle of the Choirs for us.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Burns</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/07/13/time-to-go/#comment-486442</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Burns</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2008 06:11:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/07/13/time-to-go/#comment-486442</guid>
		<description>Maybe some more high quality Australian drama?
Yeah, I know, wishful thinking.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe some more high quality Australian drama?<br />
Yeah, I know, wishful thinking.</p>
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		<title>By: patrickg</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/07/13/time-to-go/#comment-486412</link>
		<dc:creator>patrickg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2008 04:48:30 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/07/13/time-to-go/#comment-486412</guid>
		<description>pfft Glen Dyer get your hand off it. So no other 'nasty, confrontational' television shows are popular in Australia? (Gordon f*cking Ramsay, anyone? Today Tonight?) We're all waiting on the return of "The Wonderful World of Disney"?? (Well I am, but that's beside the point).

How about this: Big Brother ceased to be entertaining, mainly because it lost its' variety and 'reality'.

So You Think You Can Dance, by contrast, is entertaining, precisely because of that variety (and, you know, dancing). 

That all said, come to talk me in SYTCD Season 8 Glenn, and tell me what Australians are rejecting when they can that one (Idol and plummeting ratings, anyone?)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>pfft Glen Dyer get your hand off it. So no other &#8216;nasty, confrontational&#8217; television shows are popular in Australia? (Gordon f*cking Ramsay, anyone? Today Tonight?) We&#8217;re all waiting on the return of &#8220;The Wonderful World of Disney&#8221;?? (Well I am, but that&#8217;s beside the point).</p>
<p>How about this: Big Brother ceased to be entertaining, mainly because it lost its&#8217; variety and &#8216;reality&#8217;.</p>
<p>So You Think You Can Dance, by contrast, is entertaining, precisely because of that variety (and, you know, dancing). </p>
<p>That all said, come to talk me in SYTCD Season 8 Glenn, and tell me what Australians are rejecting when they can that one (Idol and plummeting ratings, anyone?)</p>
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		<title>By: Robert</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/07/13/time-to-go/#comment-486406</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2008 04:24:37 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/07/13/time-to-go/#comment-486406</guid>
		<description>Good that it's going yet it's been a fascinating television (some said social) experiment. Channel Ten was facing the wall prior to first obtaining it, and tossed its future solely on the first season, which evidently worked and turned its fortunes around.  Back then, the show was something of a phenomena - amazing how things change - with an audience including other than the 16 - 39 age group it re-pitched itself at. Columns were written attempting to dissect it and it was all the gossipy rage.

Checking on it this year it was astounding how poor were the selections. What ever were they thinking?  Yet the writing may have been on the wall since the time, like, Jamie or whatever his name is was never heard of again after winning. Producers must have hated the Australian public for voting for that, effectively killing a continuum and forcing another look.

But other factors are interesting about its demise. The younger age group have since grown to have their very own reality tv shows, through mobile phones and the internet (Myspace and YouTube for starters), what's more of their own creating.  And it would be interesting to better understand how young people relate today; snippets and soundbites through texts, comments video messages and the like seem to run contrary to an ongoing building and breaking of relationships via BB narrative.

Originally, the power of an unknown, faceless public somehow connected through the ability to ostracise an individual from a group was, while not bound to the show, a compelling public development. This cuts to the core of some pretty awesome psychology. But it was crap, and in the end, regardless of any other factors, that's what was left of it. 

The television experiment's been done. Surely it leaves a gaping hole for free-to-air to fill with quality, with now an abundance of quickfix opportunistic pseudo 'human relationship/game playing/voyeuristic cum entertainment' channels elsewhere.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good that it&#8217;s going yet it&#8217;s been a fascinating television (some said social) experiment. Channel Ten was facing the wall prior to first obtaining it, and tossed its future solely on the first season, which evidently worked and turned its fortunes around.  Back then, the show was something of a phenomena - amazing how things change - with an audience including other than the 16 - 39 age group it re-pitched itself at. Columns were written attempting to dissect it and it was all the gossipy rage.</p>
<p>Checking on it this year it was astounding how poor were the selections. What ever were they thinking?  Yet the writing may have been on the wall since the time, like, Jamie or whatever his name is was never heard of again after winning. Producers must have hated the Australian public for voting for that, effectively killing a continuum and forcing another look.</p>
<p>But other factors are interesting about its demise. The younger age group have since grown to have their very own reality tv shows, through mobile phones and the internet (Myspace and YouTube for starters), what&#8217;s more of their own creating.  And it would be interesting to better understand how young people relate today; snippets and soundbites through texts, comments video messages and the like seem to run contrary to an ongoing building and breaking of relationships via BB narrative.</p>
<p>Originally, the power of an unknown, faceless public somehow connected through the ability to ostracise an individual from a group was, while not bound to the show, a compelling public development. This cuts to the core of some pretty awesome psychology. But it was crap, and in the end, regardless of any other factors, that&#8217;s what was left of it. </p>
<p>The television experiment&#8217;s been done. Surely it leaves a gaping hole for free-to-air to fill with quality, with now an abundance of quickfix opportunistic pseudo &#8216;human relationship/game playing/voyeuristic cum entertainment&#8217; channels elsewhere.</p>
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		<title>By: charles</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/07/13/time-to-go/#comment-486398</link>
		<dc:creator>charles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2008 04:03:20 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/07/13/time-to-go/#comment-486398</guid>
		<description>A miracle. Who said the popes visit would be a waste of money.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A miracle. Who said the popes visit would be a waste of money.</p>
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		<title>By: Kim</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/07/13/time-to-go/#comment-486393</link>
		<dc:creator>Kim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2008 03:49:10 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/07/13/time-to-go/#comment-486393</guid>
		<description>Glenn Dyer in &lt;a href="http://www.crikey.com.au/Media-Arts-and-Sports/20080714-BB.html" rel="nofollow"&gt;Crikey&lt;/a&gt;:

&lt;blockquote&gt;There's more to the demise of Big Brother than meets the eye. It's a final and emphatic rejection by Australian TV viewers, especially younger ones, of a nasty, confrontational approach to culture.

Ten's core audiences, the 16 to 39 and 18 to 49 viewers have said 'not interested any more'. It’s a message for all Australian TV. The positive, affirming debut of So You Think You Can Dance Australia started in spectacular fashion in February and finished its first season strongly.&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Glenn Dyer in <a href="http://www.crikey.com.au/Media-Arts-and-Sports/20080714-BB.html" rel="nofollow">Crikey</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>There&#8217;s more to the demise of Big Brother than meets the eye. It&#8217;s a final and emphatic rejection by Australian TV viewers, especially younger ones, of a nasty, confrontational approach to culture.</p>
<p>Ten&#8217;s core audiences, the 16 to 39 and 18 to 49 viewers have said &#8216;not interested any more&#8217;. It’s a message for all Australian TV. The positive, affirming debut of So You Think You Can Dance Australia started in spectacular fashion in February and finished its first season strongly.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: Lefty E</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/07/13/time-to-go/#comment-486386</link>
		<dc:creator>Lefty E</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2008 03:37:47 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/07/13/time-to-go/#comment-486386</guid>
		<description>Im not sure my long-running BB = Boganism theme qualifies as entirely serious, actually JC. 

Nonetheless, I do suspect the climate is changing on certain cultural forms. ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Im not sure my long-running BB = Boganism theme qualifies as entirely serious, actually JC. </p>
<p>Nonetheless, I do suspect the climate is changing on certain cultural forms. <img src='http://larvatusprodeo.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Jacques Chester</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/07/13/time-to-go/#comment-486367</link>
		<dc:creator>Jacques Chester</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2008 02:47:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/07/13/time-to-go/#comment-486367</guid>
		<description>Awww man, I come here to parody leftie obsession with Howard and rightie obsession with Rudd.

And someone beat me to it. But "for serious".</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Awww man, I come here to parody leftie obsession with Howard and rightie obsession with Rudd.</p>
<p>And someone beat me to it. But &#8220;for serious&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Jacques Chester</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/07/13/time-to-go/#comment-486366</link>
		<dc:creator>Jacques Chester</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2008 02:46:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/07/13/time-to-go/#comment-486366</guid>
		<description>Since, as I learnt around here, BB was holding up a mirror to the evils John Howard personally foisted on all of us, it is only natural that in the Second Year of Rudd it should have folded.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since, as I learnt around here, BB was holding up a mirror to the evils John Howard personally foisted on all of us, it is only natural that in the Second Year of Rudd it should have folded.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Burns</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/07/13/time-to-go/#comment-486355</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Burns</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2008 02:02:58 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/07/13/time-to-go/#comment-486355</guid>
		<description>OMG, and I've already had to go back to watching re-runs of old movies late at nigh on the ABC because they ditched BB Up late. What will I do?

I suppose I could go out clubbing.  :) 

Lefty E, I think your speculation is spot on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OMG, and I&#8217;ve already had to go back to watching re-runs of old movies late at nigh on the ABC because they ditched BB Up late. What will I do?</p>
<p>I suppose I could go out clubbing.  <img src='http://larvatusprodeo.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Lefty E, I think your speculation is spot on.</p>
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		<title>By: Lefty E</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/07/13/time-to-go/#comment-486354</link>
		<dc:creator>Lefty E</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2008 01:58:04 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/07/13/time-to-go/#comment-486354</guid>
		<description>Juts a speculative theory (and I should acknowledge that I never watched Boring Bogan): but my view from seeing the ads is that it probably couldn't survive the Howard era -viz, the narcissistic, inward-looking, non-challenging combo of self-interest, (yabbering about yourself US-style), and the celebration of popular "mainstream" ordinariness that the politics implied.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Juts a speculative theory (and I should acknowledge that I never watched Boring Bogan): but my view from seeing the ads is that it probably couldn&#8217;t survive the Howard era -viz, the narcissistic, inward-looking, non-challenging combo of self-interest, (yabbering about yourself US-style), and the celebration of popular &#8220;mainstream&#8221; ordinariness that the politics implied.</p>
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		<title>By: Guido</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/07/13/time-to-go/#comment-486317</link>
		<dc:creator>Guido</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2008 00:18:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/07/13/time-to-go/#comment-486317</guid>
		<description>Apparently we are going to get an Australian version of the Japanese game 'Human Tetris' &lt;a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ll2kajMH2u0" rel="nofollow"&gt;[youtube link]&lt;/a&gt;.  What a hoot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apparently we are going to get an Australian version of the Japanese game &#8216;Human Tetris&#8217; <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ll2kajMH2u0" rel="nofollow">[youtube link]</a>.  What a hoot.</p>
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		<title>By: patrickg</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/07/13/time-to-go/#comment-486293</link>
		<dc:creator>patrickg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jul 2008 23:14:53 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/07/13/time-to-go/#comment-486293</guid>
		<description>Oh man, I watched Wipeout last week for precisely that It's A Knockout (sweet square-dancing jesus I loved that show as a kid) vibe. 

It was awesome! Splashes, snarky commentary, more pratfalls. Awesome. Unfortunately I have gotten into the habit of calling it "SplashDown", which is a euphemism my family and friends use for a (hopefully) more regular and intimate, but less pleasant event.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh man, I watched Wipeout last week for precisely that It&#8217;s A Knockout (sweet square-dancing jesus I loved that show as a kid) vibe. </p>
<p>It was awesome! Splashes, snarky commentary, more pratfalls. Awesome. Unfortunately I have gotten into the habit of calling it &#8220;SplashDown&#8221;, which is a euphemism my family and friends use for a (hopefully) more regular and intimate, but less pleasant event.</p>
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		<title>By: Liam</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/07/13/time-to-go/#comment-486291</link>
		<dc:creator>Liam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jul 2008 23:00:10 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/07/13/time-to-go/#comment-486291</guid>
		<description>&lt;a href="http://www.geocities.com/Colosseum/Bleachers/2492/" rel="nofollow"&gt;It's A Knockout&lt;/a&gt;, that's the name of the game!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.geocities.com/Colosseum/Bleachers/2492/" rel="nofollow">It&#8217;s A Knockout</a>, that&#8217;s the name of the game!</p>
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