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	<title>Comments on: Picture this: Ararat</title>
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		<title>By: Darlene</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/07/20/picture-this-ararat/#comment-495684</link>
		<dc:creator>Darlene</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Aug 2008 22:49:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tee hee, that's funny. :) Okay, okay, there are more codes than just league and AFL. I better concede that before I'm put in the pod.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tee hee, that&#8217;s funny. <img src='http://larvatusprodeo.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> Okay, okay, there are more codes than just league and AFL. I better concede that before I&#8217;m put in the pod.</p>
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		<title>By: tigtog</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/07/20/picture-this-ararat/#comment-495589</link>
		<dc:creator>tigtog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Aug 2008 12:50:51 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/07/20/picture-this-ararat/#comment-495589</guid>
		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Go team, Paul. Which side do you support? Are you an AFL man or a rugby league fan? Not sure if there are any other codes besides those.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

On behalf of every RU fan and every "world game" fan, it saddens me Darlene but this simply must be done:

&lt;a href="http://picasaweb.google.com/tigtog/Miscellaneous/photo#5233983493113129682" rel="nofollow"&gt;&lt;img src="http://lh4.ggpht.com/tigtog/SKLYQZNEKtI/AAAAAAAABYo/yv0pc1dydhk/s400/body-snatchers.jpg" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;

You're not going to struggle when we put you in the pod, are you?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Go team, Paul. Which side do you support? Are you an AFL man or a rugby league fan? Not sure if there are any other codes besides those.</p></blockquote>
<p>On behalf of every RU fan and every &#8220;world game&#8221; fan, it saddens me Darlene but this simply must be done:</p>
<p><a href="http://picasaweb.google.com/tigtog/Miscellaneous/photo#5233983493113129682" rel="nofollow"><img src="http://lh4.ggpht.com/tigtog/SKLYQZNEKtI/AAAAAAAABYo/yv0pc1dydhk/s400/body-snatchers.jpg" /></a></p>
<p>You&#8217;re not going to struggle when we put you in the pod, are you?</p>
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		<title>By: Darlene</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/07/20/picture-this-ararat/#comment-495470</link>
		<dc:creator>Darlene</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Aug 2008 07:00:17 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/07/20/picture-this-ararat/#comment-495470</guid>
		<description>Thanks Kapil. You haven't left an email address in your comment.

Feel free to contact me on darlenectaylor (at) yahoo.com.au and let me know what you're after.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Kapil. You haven&#8217;t left an email address in your comment.</p>
<p>Feel free to contact me on darlenectaylor (at) yahoo.com.au and let me know what you&#8217;re after.</p>
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		<title>By: Prof.Kapil Kumar</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/07/20/picture-this-ararat/#comment-495464</link>
		<dc:creator>Prof.Kapil Kumar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Aug 2008 06:41:01 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/07/20/picture-this-ararat/#comment-495464</guid>
		<description>I am a historian working on convict heritage tourism at Monash,Clayton.By recording this past of Ararat,I believe you have done a good service for historicalre-enactment by putting this experience on the web.Keep it up.
Would you mail me back as I would further like to have your views on the J ward
Bye
kapil</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a historian working on convict heritage tourism at Monash,Clayton.By recording this past of Ararat,I believe you have done a good service for historicalre-enactment by putting this experience on the web.Keep it up.<br />
Would you mail me back as I would further like to have your views on the J ward<br />
Bye<br />
kapil</p>
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		<title>By: melaleuca</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/07/20/picture-this-ararat/#comment-488457</link>
		<dc:creator>melaleuca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jul 2008 08:16:47 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/07/20/picture-this-ararat/#comment-488457</guid>
		<description>"Stawell and off into the Grampians is a good buzz, too."

The Grampians is an absolute treasure. Check it out in spring for the wildflowers. Also go see Royce Raleigh's hakea collection.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Stawell and off into the Grampians is a good buzz, too.&#8221;</p>
<p>The Grampians is an absolute treasure. Check it out in spring for the wildflowers. Also go see Royce Raleigh&#8217;s hakea collection.</p>
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		<title>By: Pavlov's Cat</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/07/20/picture-this-ararat/#comment-488432</link>
		<dc:creator>Pavlov's Cat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jul 2008 07:40:25 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/07/20/picture-this-ararat/#comment-488432</guid>
		<description>Curramulka has lights? Gee, I've been gone longer than I thought. 

They may be basing this bold tourism initiative on the annual Christmas &lt;a href="http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://satcatdw.itnu.com.au/multimedia/SATC/9003161_2.jpg&#38;imgrefurl=http://www.southaustralia.com/search.aspx%3Fsearch-field%3Dlobethal&#38;h=280&#38;w=210&#38;sz=15&#38;hl=en&#38;start=14&#38;tbnid=r5Au%E2%80%937THYBzOM:&#38;tbnh=114&#38;tbnw=86&#38;prev=/images%3Fq%3D%2522lights%2Bof%2Blobethal%2522%26as_st%3Dy%26hl%3Den%26safe%3Doff%26sa%3DG" rel="nofollow"&gt;Lights of Lobethal&lt;/a&gt; Festival in the Adelaide Hills. (Note obligatory use of the word 'nestled' to refer to any town or building on anything less than dead-flat terrain.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Curramulka has lights? Gee, I&#8217;ve been gone longer than I thought. </p>
<p>They may be basing this bold tourism initiative on the annual Christmas <a href="http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://satcatdw.itnu.com.au/multimedia/SATC/9003161_2.jpg&amp;imgrefurl=http://www.southaustralia.com/search.aspx%3Fsearch-field%3Dlobethal&amp;h=280&amp;w=210&amp;sz=15&amp;hl=en&amp;start=14&amp;tbnid=r5Au%E2%80%937THYBzOM:&amp;tbnh=114&amp;tbnw=86&amp;prev=/images%3Fq%3D%2522lights%2Bof%2Blobethal%2522%26as_st%3Dy%26hl%3Den%26safe%3Doff%26sa%3DG" rel="nofollow">Lights of Lobethal</a> Festival in the Adelaide Hills. (Note obligatory use of the word &#8216;nestled&#8217; to refer to any town or building on anything less than dead-flat terrain.)</p>
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		<title>By: paul walter</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/07/20/picture-this-ararat/#comment-488393</link>
		<dc:creator>paul walter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jul 2008 06:11:30 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/07/20/picture-this-ararat/#comment-488393</guid>
		<description>I agree with Pavlov's Cat. He could quite easily ordered her to test for the offending tea bag with a spoon instead. Tea bags in  teapots are the bane of a civilised person's existence ( still can't get past that cat!!). 
Stawell and off into the  Grampians is a good buzz, too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Pavlov&#8217;s Cat. He could quite easily ordered her to test for the offending tea bag with a spoon instead. Tea bags in  teapots are the bane of a civilised person&#8217;s existence ( still can&#8217;t get past that cat!!).<br />
Stawell and off into the  Grampians is a good buzz, too.</p>
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		<title>By: Darlene</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/07/20/picture-this-ararat/#comment-488388</link>
		<dc:creator>Darlene</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jul 2008 06:00:03 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/07/20/picture-this-ararat/#comment-488388</guid>
		<description>"When you get to St Arnaud Darlene, slip out to Berry’s Bridge, there’s a great little winery".

Thanks for that tip, zorronsky. Love a little drop of white.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;When you get to St Arnaud Darlene, slip out to Berry’s Bridge, there’s a great little winery&#8221;.</p>
<p>Thanks for that tip, zorronsky. Love a little drop of white.</p>
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		<title>By: Darlene</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/07/20/picture-this-ararat/#comment-488386</link>
		<dc:creator>Darlene</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jul 2008 05:57:38 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/07/20/picture-this-ararat/#comment-488386</guid>
		<description>Nice thoughts, PC. A lot of history buried in that regional SA cemetery.

Mmmm, bread baked fresh and purchased hot. 

Incidentally, according to one website, this is all the events happening in Curramulka:

http://www.australianexplorer.com/events/curramulka.htm

"Curramulka Lights Up! 2008 (EVENT)
Curramulka (Curramulka, South Australia - Australia)

06 December 2008 - 31 December 2008 (TBA)

Following the Curramulka Lights Up! 2008 Light Up Night on Saturday 6 December 2008; the Curramulka town lights will be switched on every night throughout December, until New Years Eve. Stroll or drive around town and see the many wonderful Christmas scenes and light displays. The best time for viewing the Curramulka Lights is after sunset."

Dr S, it's all pretty depressing. Makes one wonder about why there is a lack of recent medication for schizophrenia. Dare I suggest that the pharmaceutical companies make more money out of the current "depression epidemic"? Dare I suggest that some GPs find it easier (and less time consuming) to prescribe Lexapro or whatever than discuss their clients problems or arrange appointments with psychiatrists?   

Apparently there are some drugs for schizophrenia in the works:

http://www.schizophrenia.com/newmeds2004.html

Thanks, melaleuca. That's a great image. Alas, it seems that Cassinia arcuata looks good, but is a bit of problem. Castlemaine looks like a nice little town. For those who haven't heard of it:

http://www.castlemaine.org/

 

http://www.castlemaine.org/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice thoughts, PC. A lot of history buried in that regional SA cemetery.</p>
<p>Mmmm, bread baked fresh and purchased hot. </p>
<p>Incidentally, according to one website, this is all the events happening in Curramulka:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.australianexplorer.com/events/curramulka.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.australianexplorer.com/events/curramulka.htm</a></p>
<p>&#8220;Curramulka Lights Up! 2008 (EVENT)<br />
Curramulka (Curramulka, South Australia - Australia)</p>
<p>06 December 2008 - 31 December 2008 (TBA)</p>
<p>Following the Curramulka Lights Up! 2008 Light Up Night on Saturday 6 December 2008; the Curramulka town lights will be switched on every night throughout December, until New Years Eve. Stroll or drive around town and see the many wonderful Christmas scenes and light displays. The best time for viewing the Curramulka Lights is after sunset.&#8221;</p>
<p>Dr S, it&#8217;s all pretty depressing. Makes one wonder about why there is a lack of recent medication for schizophrenia. Dare I suggest that the pharmaceutical companies make more money out of the current &#8220;depression epidemic&#8221;? Dare I suggest that some GPs find it easier (and less time consuming) to prescribe Lexapro or whatever than discuss their clients problems or arrange appointments with psychiatrists?   </p>
<p>Apparently there are some drugs for schizophrenia in the works:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.schizophrenia.com/newmeds2004.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.schizophrenia.com/newmeds2004.html</a></p>
<p>Thanks, melaleuca. That&#8217;s a great image. Alas, it seems that Cassinia arcuata looks good, but is a bit of problem. Castlemaine looks like a nice little town. For those who haven&#8217;t heard of it:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.castlemaine.org/" rel="nofollow">http://www.castlemaine.org/</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.castlemaine.org/" rel="nofollow">http://www.castlemaine.org/</a></p>
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		<title>By: zorronsky</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/07/20/picture-this-ararat/#comment-488350</link>
		<dc:creator>zorronsky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jul 2008 04:44:45 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/07/20/picture-this-ararat/#comment-488350</guid>
		<description>When you get to St Arnaud Darlene, slip out to Berry's Bridge, there's a great little winery...P C That's the road I live on , sounds like somebody sure had you goin'. Agree with the level of police presence in western Vic and their over zealous attitude to tourists.South Aussies are generally well regarded hereabouts but personally I draw the line at having to watch the Crows and Port as the only game available to free to air sunday.
Dr S clozapine is a blood monitoring problem for my son but modicate[if that's how you spell it] terrified him for both its physical and mental effects. One 42 degree day in a near city institution in Adelaide I found him on a lawn behind his ward, choking on his own vomit, unable to move .The modicate nurse had upped his dosage because of his aversion to the drug and his attempts to avoid being medicated.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When you get to St Arnaud Darlene, slip out to Berry&#8217;s Bridge, there&#8217;s a great little winery&#8230;P C That&#8217;s the road I live on , sounds like somebody sure had you goin&#8217;. Agree with the level of police presence in western Vic and their over zealous attitude to tourists.South Aussies are generally well regarded hereabouts but personally I draw the line at having to watch the Crows and Port as the only game available to free to air sunday.<br />
Dr S clozapine is a blood monitoring problem for my son but modicate[if that&#8217;s how you spell it] terrified him for both its physical and mental effects. One 42 degree day in a near city institution in Adelaide I found him on a lawn behind his ward, choking on his own vomit, unable to move .The modicate nurse had upped his dosage because of his aversion to the drug and his attempts to avoid being medicated.</p>
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		<title>By: melaleuca</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/07/20/picture-this-ararat/#comment-488348</link>
		<dc:creator>melaleuca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jul 2008 04:36:09 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/07/20/picture-this-ararat/#comment-488348</guid>
		<description>Great post Darlene. 

I live near Castlemaine now which has a similar Chinese goldrush era past.  As I type I can see outside a window a hill 200 metres into the distance that is covered with "Chinese Scrub" - Cassinia arcuata. Supposedly the Chinese gold miners used this native daisy species as incense.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post Darlene. </p>
<p>I live near Castlemaine now which has a similar Chinese goldrush era past.  As I type I can see outside a window a hill 200 metres into the distance that is covered with &#8220;Chinese Scrub&#8221; - Cassinia arcuata. Supposedly the Chinese gold miners used this native daisy species as incense.</p>
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		<title>By: Dr S</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/07/20/picture-this-ararat/#comment-488315</link>
		<dc:creator>Dr S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jul 2008 02:53:09 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/07/20/picture-this-ararat/#comment-488315</guid>
		<description>ECT is the millstone around the neck of psychiatry. There is no doubt it works about as well as the anti-depressants. The problem is that it's reputation is so foul it pollutes the capacity of people to trust psychiatrists. ECT is the torture added to the power of imprisonment (involuntary admission). It does not help that in some circumstances ECT has been used as punishment and that memory problems are unavoidable.

Ban it. Move on.

The second issue is the efficacy of medication. Depression and mania are indeed well treated. As to schizophrenia, there is little new in thirty years. The modern drugs have less side effects but no greater efficacy. The only exception is Clozapine, which was invented in the sixties and rejected due to marrow toxicity. It does work much better, assuming your heart and blood hold up.

The main difference is culture. The reduction in fear of violence and limitation of acceptable restraint.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ECT is the millstone around the neck of psychiatry. There is no doubt it works about as well as the anti-depressants. The problem is that it&#8217;s reputation is so foul it pollutes the capacity of people to trust psychiatrists. ECT is the torture added to the power of imprisonment (involuntary admission). It does not help that in some circumstances ECT has been used as punishment and that memory problems are unavoidable.</p>
<p>Ban it. Move on.</p>
<p>The second issue is the efficacy of medication. Depression and mania are indeed well treated. As to schizophrenia, there is little new in thirty years. The modern drugs have less side effects but no greater efficacy. The only exception is Clozapine, which was invented in the sixties and rejected due to marrow toxicity. It does work much better, assuming your heart and blood hold up.</p>
<p>The main difference is culture. The reduction in fear of violence and limitation of acceptable restraint.</p>
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		<title>By: Pavlov's Cat</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/07/20/picture-this-ararat/#comment-488313</link>
		<dc:creator>Pavlov's Cat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jul 2008 02:43:17 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/07/20/picture-this-ararat/#comment-488313</guid>
		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Why couldn’t he stick the fork in himself?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I got the impression he thought forks and teapots were women's work.

&lt;blockquote&gt;It was a strangely powerful experience to see the place where great-grandma is buried, and to see the bareness of her and some other graves. The cemetery is certainly located in a lovely serene area.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Country cemeteries are fabulous that way. The Curramulka Cemetery, which is way out in the middle of the wheat on Yorke Peninsula in SA, contains the graves of both my (paternal) great-grandparents and both my great-great grandparents, plus at least a dozen people I used to call 'Auntie X or 'Uncle Y', half a dozen people I went to primary school with, a couple of those people's children, the bloke who used to bake the bread we bought hot from the bakery, the woman who taught me to read music and play the piano, and goodness knows who-all else. I go there whenever I get the chance and wander around communing with the dead.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Why couldn’t he stick the fork in himself?</p></blockquote>
<p>I got the impression he thought forks and teapots were women&#8217;s work.</p>
<blockquote><p>It was a strangely powerful experience to see the place where great-grandma is buried, and to see the bareness of her and some other graves. The cemetery is certainly located in a lovely serene area.</p></blockquote>
<p>Country cemeteries are fabulous that way. The Curramulka Cemetery, which is way out in the middle of the wheat on Yorke Peninsula in SA, contains the graves of both my (paternal) great-grandparents and both my great-great grandparents, plus at least a dozen people I used to call &#8216;Auntie X or &#8216;Uncle Y&#8217;, half a dozen people I went to primary school with, a couple of those people&#8217;s children, the bloke who used to bake the bread we bought hot from the bakery, the woman who taught me to read music and play the piano, and goodness knows who-all else. I go there whenever I get the chance and wander around communing with the dead.</p>
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		<title>By: Darlene</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/07/20/picture-this-ararat/#comment-488303</link>
		<dc:creator>Darlene</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jul 2008 01:48:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/07/20/picture-this-ararat/#comment-488303</guid>
		<description>Thanks, derrida derider. Does that mean people can move quite quickly from needing to be in a High Dependency Unit to being released or at least put into the general area of a pysch hospital thanks to the drugs that are given these days? Interesting what you say about the attitudes. 

I note that there was an article about ECT (a subject that doesn't seem to be discussed that much anymore) on On Line Opinion in April:

http://www.onlineopinion.com.au/view.asp?article=7179</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, derrida derider. Does that mean people can move quite quickly from needing to be in a High Dependency Unit to being released or at least put into the general area of a pysch hospital thanks to the drugs that are given these days? Interesting what you say about the attitudes. </p>
<p>I note that there was an article about ECT (a subject that doesn&#8217;t seem to be discussed that much anymore) on On Line Opinion in April:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.onlineopinion.com.au/view.asp?article=7179" rel="nofollow">http://www.onlineopinion.com.au/view.asp?article=7179</a></p>
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		<title>By: Darlene</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/07/20/picture-this-ararat/#comment-488297</link>
		<dc:creator>Darlene</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jul 2008 01:39:53 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/07/20/picture-this-ararat/#comment-488297</guid>
		<description>Thanks, PC. I enjoyed the day out at Ararat. It was a particularly lovely trek to the cemetery (walked down a dirt road, which contained a rather large puddle). It was a strangely powerful experience to see the place where great-grandma is buried, and to see the bareness of her and some other graves. The cemetery is certainly located in a lovely serene area. 

Sounds like a hideous drive that night. My word, almost a scary movie that experience.

Christ knows what that old bugger would've done if they'd used teabags. Why couldn't he stick the fork in himself?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, PC. I enjoyed the day out at Ararat. It was a particularly lovely trek to the cemetery (walked down a dirt road, which contained a rather large puddle). It was a strangely powerful experience to see the place where great-grandma is buried, and to see the bareness of her and some other graves. The cemetery is certainly located in a lovely serene area. </p>
<p>Sounds like a hideous drive that night. My word, almost a scary movie that experience.</p>
<p>Christ knows what that old bugger would&#8217;ve done if they&#8217;d used teabags. Why couldn&#8217;t he stick the fork in himself?</p>
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		<title>By: Pavlov's Cat</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/07/20/picture-this-ararat/#comment-488262</link>
		<dc:creator>Pavlov's Cat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jul 2008 00:20:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/07/20/picture-this-ararat/#comment-488262</guid>
		<description>Nice post, Darlene, I really enjoyed reading this and looking at the pix. 

I drove through Ararat dozens of times between 1980 and 1998 and I associate it with sinister on-road experiences (getting fined heftily for doing 82 in a 60 zone because the 60 sign was hidden by foliage, as I confirmed on the next trip over; taking a wrong turn on the counter-intuitive route through Ararat to Adelaide and ending up in Halls Gap as night fell, after driving through a lot of dark unfamiliar forest like Red Riding Hood; etc). I particularly associate it with the overalled, farmer-looking dude in the roadhouse who ordered a pot of tea, "and don't make it with fuck'n teabags." When the pot arrived he pushed it over to the downtrodden-looking woman with him and said "Here, stick your fork in that and see if it's a fuck'n teabag."</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice post, Darlene, I really enjoyed reading this and looking at the pix. </p>
<p>I drove through Ararat dozens of times between 1980 and 1998 and I associate it with sinister on-road experiences (getting fined heftily for doing 82 in a 60 zone because the 60 sign was hidden by foliage, as I confirmed on the next trip over; taking a wrong turn on the counter-intuitive route through Ararat to Adelaide and ending up in Halls Gap as night fell, after driving through a lot of dark unfamiliar forest like Red Riding Hood; etc). I particularly associate it with the overalled, farmer-looking dude in the roadhouse who ordered a pot of tea, &#8220;and don&#8217;t make it with fuck&#8217;n teabags.&#8221; When the pot arrived he pushed it over to the downtrodden-looking woman with him and said &#8220;Here, stick your fork in that and see if it&#8217;s a fuck&#8217;n teabag.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: derrida derider</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jul 2008 00:13:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On mental illness, the drugs really are far more effective these days - that, not simple changes in attitudes, is the main reason that physical restraint has been able to be reduced so much. High Dependency Units are still frightening and miserable places but very few people have to spend long in them now.

That stuff about ECT for schizophrenia is interesting - I, too, thought that its main use these days is for major depression (especially where it's a complication of senile dementia).  Given ECTs record of being oversold, the impossibility of blind (let alone double blind) studies, and the relative mystery about how it's supposed to work I have to confess to some mild scepticism.  Subjecting a computer to repeated [Ctrl-Alt-Del]s is not usually an effective way of dealing with major hardware problems.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On mental illness, the drugs really are far more effective these days - that, not simple changes in attitudes, is the main reason that physical restraint has been able to be reduced so much. High Dependency Units are still frightening and miserable places but very few people have to spend long in them now.</p>
<p>That stuff about ECT for schizophrenia is interesting - I, too, thought that its main use these days is for major depression (especially where it&#8217;s a complication of senile dementia).  Given ECTs record of being oversold, the impossibility of blind (let alone double blind) studies, and the relative mystery about how it&#8217;s supposed to work I have to confess to some mild scepticism.  Subjecting a computer to repeated [Ctrl-Alt-Del]s is not usually an effective way of dealing with major hardware problems.</p>
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		<title>By: Darlene</title>
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		<dc:creator>Darlene</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jul 2008 23:40:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for that info, wilful.

This is what the Gum San Chinese Heritage website says about it:

"One day in May, 1857, 700 Chinese miners from Southern China, travelling overland from the Port of Robe, South Australia, to the Central Goldfields in the Colony of Victoria, rested at a place at the foothills of the Great Dividing Range, some 400 kilometres due east of Robe.
 
Replenishing their water supplies at a spring, they discovered by chance the Canton Lead, the world's richest shallow alluvial goldfield that stretched five kilometres at length.
 
This find marked the beginning of the Ararat Goldfield, which grew to a population of more than 30,000 in a mere few weeks.
 
In the first three weeks of mining, the Canton Lead yielded ninety five kilograms of gold and in the first three months, more than three tonnes."

The Chinese were also subject to some sort of tax, but I can't remember the details (had to get the train and didn't want to miss it and be stuck in Ararat ;) )

Ararat certainly looks like a pleasant sleepy town. The tourist attractions and sights would suggest it's all about facilities for the mentally ill, wine, the Chinese digging for gold and that's about it. Next place to visit for me is St Arnaud, where my great-grandfather is buried. 

I must say I was impressed by the V-Line train service, which was much better than what one gets on the suburban trains.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for that info, wilful.</p>
<p>This is what the Gum San Chinese Heritage website says about it:</p>
<p>&#8220;One day in May, 1857, 700 Chinese miners from Southern China, travelling overland from the Port of Robe, South Australia, to the Central Goldfields in the Colony of Victoria, rested at a place at the foothills of the Great Dividing Range, some 400 kilometres due east of Robe.</p>
<p>Replenishing their water supplies at a spring, they discovered by chance the Canton Lead, the world&#8217;s richest shallow alluvial goldfield that stretched five kilometres at length.</p>
<p>This find marked the beginning of the Ararat Goldfield, which grew to a population of more than 30,000 in a mere few weeks.</p>
<p>In the first three weeks of mining, the Canton Lead yielded ninety five kilograms of gold and in the first three months, more than three tonnes.&#8221;</p>
<p>The Chinese were also subject to some sort of tax, but I can&#8217;t remember the details (had to get the train and didn&#8217;t want to miss it and be stuck in Ararat <img src='http://larvatusprodeo.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> )</p>
<p>Ararat certainly looks like a pleasant sleepy town. The tourist attractions and sights would suggest it&#8217;s all about facilities for the mentally ill, wine, the Chinese digging for gold and that&#8217;s about it. Next place to visit for me is St Arnaud, where my great-grandfather is buried. </p>
<p>I must say I was impressed by the V-Line train service, which was much better than what one gets on the suburban trains.</p>
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		<title>By: wilful</title>
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		<dc:creator>wilful</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jul 2008 23:29:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My understanding is that the Chinese ended up in Ararat because they were walking to the diggings from Adelaide. The colony of Victoria had a whites only policy for port landing but they were able to walk overland.

Ararat is still a pleasant sleepy town.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My understanding is that the Chinese ended up in Ararat because they were walking to the diggings from Adelaide. The colony of Victoria had a whites only policy for port landing but they were able to walk overland.</p>
<p>Ararat is still a pleasant sleepy town.</p>
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		<title>By: Darlene</title>
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		<dc:creator>Darlene</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jul 2008 22:36:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Go team, Paul. Which side do you support? Are you an AFL man or a rugby league fan? Not sure if there are any other codes besides those.

zorronsky, thanks for your insight into life in the Burwood home. I think that'd a fascinating book. Your life sounds like it'd make a good book. Going timber cutting sounds like darned hard work. 

There are times when one sees people on the TV who have spent their early lives in these kinds of homes and they look so sad and, at times, quite damaged by the experience. So much for the good old days. Of course, there are also people who got through the experience okay. 

"Never did me much good though and didn’t stop me from embracing an institutionalised early life."

I'd be interested to read more about that. 

PDAA, thanks. That's the J Ward website, of course. Interesting pictures. Those restraints just boggle the mind. That underground bathroom is just so awful. It should be noted that they also used it to smoke meat. Can't remember if they used it as a bathroom and a smoking room at the same time.

Anyway, if anyone's up at Ararat, I'd recommend giving the J Ward jail a look. The tour guide was very helpful, friendly and well-versed in his subject.

Meself, I hope the high school has improved since the days you were there (although I suspect they're all homes for the mentally unstable - high schools I mean).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Go team, Paul. Which side do you support? Are you an AFL man or a rugby league fan? Not sure if there are any other codes besides those.</p>
<p>zorronsky, thanks for your insight into life in the Burwood home. I think that&#8217;d a fascinating book. Your life sounds like it&#8217;d make a good book. Going timber cutting sounds like darned hard work. </p>
<p>There are times when one sees people on the TV who have spent their early lives in these kinds of homes and they look so sad and, at times, quite damaged by the experience. So much for the good old days. Of course, there are also people who got through the experience okay. </p>
<p>&#8220;Never did me much good though and didn’t stop me from embracing an institutionalised early life.&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;d be interested to read more about that. </p>
<p>PDAA, thanks. That&#8217;s the J Ward website, of course. Interesting pictures. Those restraints just boggle the mind. That underground bathroom is just so awful. It should be noted that they also used it to smoke meat. Can&#8217;t remember if they used it as a bathroom and a smoking room at the same time.</p>
<p>Anyway, if anyone&#8217;s up at Ararat, I&#8217;d recommend giving the J Ward jail a look. The tour guide was very helpful, friendly and well-versed in his subject.</p>
<p>Meself, I hope the high school has improved since the days you were there (although I suspect they&#8217;re all homes for the mentally unstable - high schools I mean).</p>
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