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		<title>By: PinkyOz</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/07/21/northern-territory-election/#comment-494591</link>
		<dc:creator>PinkyOz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Aug 2008 11:48:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Always glad to help Mark. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Always glad to help Mark. <img src='http://larvatusprodeo.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/07/21/northern-territory-election/#comment-494588</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Aug 2008 11:37:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the update, PinkyOz.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the update, PinkyOz.</p>
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		<title>By: PinkyOz</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/07/21/northern-territory-election/#comment-494561</link>
		<dc:creator>PinkyOz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Aug 2008 08:43:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry to revive a terribly old thread for this, but it would seem that the NT election has yielded a few more surprises then expected ...

It a close game, a lot closer then expected by the bookies and a few of the pundits, a few were uttering "CLP Irrelevance" but it would seem that's not the case, at least at face value. Labor looks like retaining power, but a 9% isn't good news for any sitting government (probably 13-1-11) but if Fannie Bay goes CLP we could have a minority government base on a single independent (Sound familiar QLD?).

Also notable was a relatively low voter turnout and high informal rate.  Both explained by confusion around the redistribution (there are heaps of Absentee votes to be counted becuase of this) and poor voter education in two-horse races (&lt;a href="http://blogs.abc.net.au/antonygreen/2008/08/northern-territ.html#more" rel="nofollow"&gt;Antony Green&lt;/a&gt; has detail on this in his election blog). Overall probably not a shining example of electoral management and probably a bit poor of a sitting government to set a short campaign following a redistribution anyway, The NT Electoral Commission really had it rough this time around.

Further details at &lt;a href="http://www.abc.net.au/elections/nt/2008/" rel="nofollow"&gt;ABC Elections Website&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href="http://www.pollbludger.com/912" rel="nofollow"&gt;The Poll Bludger&lt;/a&gt;.

PinkyOz</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry to revive a terribly old thread for this, but it would seem that the NT election has yielded a few more surprises then expected &#8230;</p>
<p>It a close game, a lot closer then expected by the bookies and a few of the pundits, a few were uttering &#8220;CLP Irrelevance&#8221; but it would seem that&#8217;s not the case, at least at face value. Labor looks like retaining power, but a 9% isn&#8217;t good news for any sitting government (probably 13-1-11) but if Fannie Bay goes CLP we could have a minority government base on a single independent (Sound familiar QLD?).</p>
<p>Also notable was a relatively low voter turnout and high informal rate.  Both explained by confusion around the redistribution (there are heaps of Absentee votes to be counted becuase of this) and poor voter education in two-horse races (<a href="http://blogs.abc.net.au/antonygreen/2008/08/northern-territ.html#more" rel="nofollow">Antony Green</a> has detail on this in his election blog). Overall probably not a shining example of electoral management and probably a bit poor of a sitting government to set a short campaign following a redistribution anyway, The NT Electoral Commission really had it rough this time around.</p>
<p>Further details at <a href="http://www.abc.net.au/elections/nt/2008/" rel="nofollow">ABC Elections Website</a> and <a href="http://www.pollbludger.com/912" rel="nofollow">The Poll Bludger</a>.</p>
<p>PinkyOz</p>
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		<title>By: Pappinbarra Fox</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/07/21/northern-territory-election/#comment-491029</link>
		<dc:creator>Pappinbarra Fox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jul 2008 22:26:33 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/07/21/northern-territory-election/#comment-491029</guid>
		<description>I have been told the NT has an annual population turnover of around the thirty percent mark. If this is true it would be almost impossible to predict any outcome across the board. Voters would be voting on prejudices they have brought with them from down south and in such small electorates a few dozen votes could make all the difference.
The Brian Burk vote last time did seem to be personal. And Some wag put one of Brian’s posters up on the road into the CBD the Monday after the election with a sign hanging around the neck saying: “Will work for food.” Unkind.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been told the NT has an annual population turnover of around the thirty percent mark. If this is true it would be almost impossible to predict any outcome across the board. Voters would be voting on prejudices they have brought with them from down south and in such small electorates a few dozen votes could make all the difference.<br />
The Brian Burk vote last time did seem to be personal. And Some wag put one of Brian’s posters up on the road into the CBD the Monday after the election with a sign hanging around the neck saying: “Will work for food.” Unkind.</p>
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		<title>By: Mangoman</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/07/21/northern-territory-election/#comment-488523</link>
		<dc:creator>Mangoman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jul 2008 10:20:15 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/07/21/northern-territory-election/#comment-488523</guid>
		<description>I agree that Labor is a certainty - pretty much. They are small electorates and sitting members tend to get back unless they have really mucked things up or are faced with a popular opponent.

On the other hand, 4 seats require swings of less than 2% and all of the sitting members are first termers. The Member for Sanderson, not one on a small margin, has stuffed up and badly. For good measure there are 3 seats in which there will be no sitting members. Fannie Bay, Clare Martin's current seat, was taken by Labor when the previous Chief Minister, Marshall Perron, left Parliament. There are strong candidates for the CLP and Labor in Fannie Bay but the CLP contender has the advantage of a high profile as the ex- Lord Mayor of Darwin.

I wouldn't put it down as a lay down misere for Labor although they are clearly the favourite.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that Labor is a certainty - pretty much. They are small electorates and sitting members tend to get back unless they have really mucked things up or are faced with a popular opponent.</p>
<p>On the other hand, 4 seats require swings of less than 2% and all of the sitting members are first termers. The Member for Sanderson, not one on a small margin, has stuffed up and badly. For good measure there are 3 seats in which there will be no sitting members. Fannie Bay, Clare Martin&#8217;s current seat, was taken by Labor when the previous Chief Minister, Marshall Perron, left Parliament. There are strong candidates for the CLP and Labor in Fannie Bay but the CLP contender has the advantage of a high profile as the ex- Lord Mayor of Darwin.</p>
<p>I wouldn&#8217;t put it down as a lay down misere for Labor although they are clearly the favourite.</p>
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		<title>By: Jacques Chester</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/07/21/northern-territory-election/#comment-488490</link>
		<dc:creator>Jacques Chester</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jul 2008 09:00:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes and no.

The real test for Opposition Leader Terry Mills is whether he can claw back enough seats to get within striking distance circa 2012. If he can't then he'll probably be rolled. That's a shame. In my experience Mills is one of the genuinely decent people in politics.

He's up against a real gunner in Henderson. Hendo was nicknamed "Minister for Everything" at one point because of how many portfolios wound up in his purview. He's actually a good fit as Chief Minister -- young, smart, aggressive in going after big projects. Voters in the NT rewarded that approach for decades until Clare Martin.

At the level of leadership alternatives, the NT is probably the luckiest state or territory. Ministry is here and there because the pool is so small (only 25 MLAs total). But we can't have it all.

My question is whether the relevation about spending (or not spending) on aboriginal-oriented programs will become an election issue or not. I like to think it would, but I won't hold my breath. The NT is the heart of unresolved tensions in Australian aboriginal life. It's more than unfinished business, it's mostly been stuck around the starting blocks for decades.

I should note that I am not an unbiased observer: I used to work for CLP candidate Dave Tollner when he was an MHR. And then I ran against him. And that I've reckoned Terry would be a fantastic Chief Minister since the first time I met him.

Oh! And I'm a Territorian in exile, no less. I expect Ken Parish will probably hold up Club Troppo's end of the discussion and remarks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes and no.</p>
<p>The real test for Opposition Leader Terry Mills is whether he can claw back enough seats to get within striking distance circa 2012. If he can&#8217;t then he&#8217;ll probably be rolled. That&#8217;s a shame. In my experience Mills is one of the genuinely decent people in politics.</p>
<p>He&#8217;s up against a real gunner in Henderson. Hendo was nicknamed &#8220;Minister for Everything&#8221; at one point because of how many portfolios wound up in his purview. He&#8217;s actually a good fit as Chief Minister &#8212; young, smart, aggressive in going after big projects. Voters in the NT rewarded that approach for decades until Clare Martin.</p>
<p>At the level of leadership alternatives, the NT is probably the luckiest state or territory. Ministry is here and there because the pool is so small (only 25 MLAs total). But we can&#8217;t have it all.</p>
<p>My question is whether the relevation about spending (or not spending) on aboriginal-oriented programs will become an election issue or not. I like to think it would, but I won&#8217;t hold my breath. The NT is the heart of unresolved tensions in Australian aboriginal life. It&#8217;s more than unfinished business, it&#8217;s mostly been stuck around the starting blocks for decades.</p>
<p>I should note that I am not an unbiased observer: I used to work for CLP candidate Dave Tollner when he was an MHR. And then I ran against him. And that I&#8217;ve reckoned Terry would be a fantastic Chief Minister since the first time I met him.</p>
<p>Oh! And I&#8217;m a Territorian in exile, no less. I expect Ken Parish will probably hold up Club Troppo&#8217;s end of the discussion and remarks.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/07/21/northern-territory-election/#comment-488484</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jul 2008 08:53:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So it's not going to be very interesting, you think, Jacques?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So it&#8217;s not going to be very interesting, you think, Jacques?</p>
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		<title>By: Jacques Chester</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/07/21/northern-territory-election/#comment-488481</link>
		<dc:creator>Jacques Chester</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jul 2008 08:46:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would be amazed, astounded, stumped, stunned, ker-donked and kerfluhgled if the ALP weren't returned.

19 out of 25 seats is essentially an impossible barrier to surmount.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would be amazed, astounded, stumped, stunned, ker-donked and kerfluhgled if the ALP weren&#8217;t returned.</p>
<p>19 out of 25 seats is essentially an impossible barrier to surmount.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/07/21/northern-territory-election/#comment-488431</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jul 2008 07:40:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The government has got to be returned, they're clearly the stronger party...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The government has got to be returned, they&#8217;re clearly the stronger party&#8230;</p>
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