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	<title>Comments on: Newspoll Tuesday: Labor 57-43 (populist bank bashing edition)</title>
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		<title>By: Youie</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/08/12/newspoll-tuesday-labor-57-43-populist-bank-bashing-edition/#comment-221006</link>
		<dc:creator>Youie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 09:52:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t worry FDB, while he was doing that, I was doing his girlfriend. There&#039;s the drinkers, and there&#039;s the thinkers...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t worry FDB, while he was doing that, I was doing his girlfriend. There&#8217;s the drinkers, and there&#8217;s the thinkers&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Adrien</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adrien</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 09:24:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;It reminds the band that people watching have taken a gamble with thier time and money that they’ll be entertained.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Not me. I climbed in thru the back window to steal your beer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>It reminds the band that people watching have taken a gamble with thier time and money that they’ll be entertained.</p></blockquote>
<p>Not me. I climbed in thru the back window to steal your beer.</p>
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		<title>By: Youie</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/08/12/newspoll-tuesday-labor-57-43-populist-bank-bashing-edition/#comment-221004</link>
		<dc:creator>Youie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 04:03:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re Andrew Reynolds Aug 12th, 2008 at 1:47 am

But surely the lowering of the nim has been more than offset by the huge increase in the value of loans made over the past 20 years? I mean (for example) 1% on $50 billion is a lot more than 3% on $10 billion... And then there&#039;s the rampant charging of account-keeping and all the other fees that didn&#039;t exist in the not-too-distant past. It&#039;s not as thought the banks are going broke; not the big ones in Aus anyway.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re Andrew Reynolds Aug 12th, 2008 at 1:47 am</p>
<p>But surely the lowering of the nim has been more than offset by the huge increase in the value of loans made over the past 20 years? I mean (for example) 1% on $50 billion is a lot more than 3% on $10 billion&#8230; And then there&#8217;s the rampant charging of account-keeping and all the other fees that didn&#8217;t exist in the not-too-distant past. It&#8217;s not as thought the banks are going broke; not the big ones in Aus anyway.</p>
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		<title>By: FDB</title>
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		<dc:creator>FDB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 01:05:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Adrian, it seems not, but as a muso I don&#039;t mind it. It reminds the band that people watching have taken a gamble with thier time and money that they&#039;ll be entertained. Which, depending on how you look at it, might make you more or less competent performing. But at least you think about it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Adrian, it seems not, but as a muso I don&#8217;t mind it. It reminds the band that people watching have taken a gamble with thier time and money that they&#8217;ll be entertained. Which, depending on how you look at it, might make you more or less competent performing. But at least you think about it.</p>
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		<title>By: wilful</title>
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		<dc:creator>wilful</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 00:41:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Adrian, no.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Adrian, no.</p>
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		<title>By: adrian</title>
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		<dc:creator>adrian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 00:23:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Am I the only one who hates the term &#039;punters&#039; and all it connotes?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Am I the only one who hates the term &#8216;punters&#8217; and all it connotes?</p>
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		<title>By: PinkyOz</title>
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		<dc:creator>PinkyOz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 00:09:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Spiros,

Its not so much that &quot;The punters want their government in control&quot; as &quot;The punters &lt;b&gt;wanting to see&lt;/b&gt; their government in control&quot;.  It&#039;s a bit of an old &lt;i&gt;Yes Minister&lt;/i&gt; thing, but very pertinent to the governments we have at the moment.

What Kim is suggesting is that if the Banks don&#039;t follow the RBA down, they instantly have a target on which to blame economic woe, not so much banks in particular but &quot;The Market&quot;, that way they can start applying increasingly restrictive commercial laws to regulate it.  This is the narrative they&#039;re playing to, look at FuelWatch and GroceryWatch, and the opposition is playing to their hand, being wedged on their key (perceived) strength, the Economy.

Yeah it&#039;s cynical, but it&#039;s strategically sound.  Peter Beattie used to do it well, almost waiting for disasters to happen so he could go &quot;striding in on his white charger to save the day&quot;, but in the end only doing what should have been done in the first place.

PinkyOz</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Spiros,</p>
<p>Its not so much that &#8220;The punters want their government in control&#8221; as &#8220;The punters <b>wanting to see</b> their government in control&#8221;.  It&#8217;s a bit of an old <i>Yes Minister</i> thing, but very pertinent to the governments we have at the moment.</p>
<p>What Kim is suggesting is that if the Banks don&#8217;t follow the RBA down, they instantly have a target on which to blame economic woe, not so much banks in particular but &#8220;The Market&#8221;, that way they can start applying increasingly restrictive commercial laws to regulate it.  This is the narrative they&#8217;re playing to, look at FuelWatch and GroceryWatch, and the opposition is playing to their hand, being wedged on their key (perceived) strength, the Economy.</p>
<p>Yeah it&#8217;s cynical, but it&#8217;s strategically sound.  Peter Beattie used to do it well, almost waiting for disasters to happen so he could go &#8220;striding in on his white charger to save the day&#8221;, but in the end only doing what should have been done in the first place.</p>
<p>PinkyOz</p>
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		<title>By: Spiros</title>
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		<dc:creator>Spiros</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2008 23:07:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This Brendan death watch has been going on longer than that of the Bali bombers. The Liberal Party is not really waiting for Hamlet Costello to make up his mind, are they?

&quot;If Labor were cynics, they’d be hoping that the banks don’t pass on the full rate cut.&quot;

I doubt it. The punters want their governments to be in control. They know nothing and care less than nothing about the nuances of risk margins and the ups and downs of the international capital markets</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This Brendan death watch has been going on longer than that of the Bali bombers. The Liberal Party is not really waiting for Hamlet Costello to make up his mind, are they?</p>
<p>&#8220;If Labor were cynics, they’d be hoping that the banks don’t pass on the full rate cut.&#8221;</p>
<p>I doubt it. The punters want their governments to be in control. They know nothing and care less than nothing about the nuances of risk margins and the ups and downs of the international capital markets</p>
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		<title>By: GW</title>
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		<dc:creator>GW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2008 22:21:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just a side note, isn&#039;t Planet Janet husband a senior lawyer with the Commonwealth Bank or some such?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just a side note, isn&#8217;t Planet Janet husband a senior lawyer with the Commonwealth Bank or some such?</p>
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		<title>By: Bingo Bango Boingo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bingo Bango Boingo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2008 15:58:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;As for legislation to make them pass on official rate cuts -I doubt it would be an easy Act to draw up. Wouldn’t it contravene the constitution if the government acts to limit profit?&quot;

What, like levying a company tax, or putting price controls on petrol, or mandating a minimum wage?

BBB</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;As for legislation to make them pass on official rate cuts -I doubt it would be an easy Act to draw up. Wouldn’t it contravene the constitution if the government acts to limit profit?&#8221;</p>
<p>What, like levying a company tax, or putting price controls on petrol, or mandating a minimum wage?</p>
<p>BBB</p>
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