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	<title>Comments on: Grammatical gender</title>
	<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/08/14/grammatical-gender/</link>
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		<title>By: sg</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/08/14/grammatical-gender/#comment-496585</link>
		<dc:creator>sg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Aug 2008 08:37:13 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/08/14/grammatical-gender/#comment-496585</guid>
		<description>Then I can only recommend you play the computer game - every scene is a pastiche of comic cliches!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Then I can only recommend you play the computer game - every scene is a pastiche of comic cliches!</p>
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		<title>By: Pavlov's Cat</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/08/14/grammatical-gender/#comment-496559</link>
		<dc:creator>Pavlov's Cat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Aug 2008 06:10:19 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/08/14/grammatical-gender/#comment-496559</guid>
		<description>sg @ #25 -- that was &lt;b&gt;hilarious&lt;/b&gt;!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sg @ #25 &#8212; that was <b>hilarious</b>!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: sg</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/08/14/grammatical-gender/#comment-496457</link>
		<dc:creator>sg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Aug 2008 21:33:09 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/08/14/grammatical-gender/#comment-496457</guid>
		<description>and, j_p_z, if you buy the computer game "Freedom Force vs. the 3rd Reich", you get to do and experience all of this &lt;i&gt;first hand&lt;/i&gt;. It is &lt;i&gt;highly&lt;/i&gt; entertaining.

Patrick B, I think you are using a girly programming language. Real &lt;i&gt;men&lt;/i&gt; program with curly brackets.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>and, j_p_z, if you buy the computer game &#8220;Freedom Force vs. the 3rd Reich&#8221;, you get to do and experience all of this <i>first hand</i>. It is <i>highly</i> entertaining.</p>
<p>Patrick B, I think you are using a girly programming language. Real <i>men</i> program with curly brackets.</p>
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		<title>By: j_p_z</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/08/14/grammatical-gender/#comment-496442</link>
		<dc:creator>j_p_z</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Aug 2008 19:43:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/08/14/grammatical-gender/#comment-496442</guid>
		<description>sg -- You've left out the other great mainstay of discourse in Marvel comics, which is the thought (or speech) balloon stating the visually obvious.  Like when Spiderman has been pushed off a rooftop, and he thinks to himself, "Ungh... falling..."  "If can only... shoot web... at that flagpole..."  Of course, this has got nothing on the amazing dash-dash-dash sightlines in Nancy.  "Sluggo! [dash-dash-dash]  Am I looking at your new hat?!"  "Yes, Nancy, you are, as the sightlines running directly from your eyes to my hat seem to imply."

For sheer entertainment value, I'd also point out the marvelous passage in "Flowers for Algernon" where the narrator writes, "Today, I learned, the comma, it is, hard, to know, when to use, the comma,..."</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sg &#8212; You&#8217;ve left out the other great mainstay of discourse in Marvel comics, which is the thought (or speech) balloon stating the visually obvious.  Like when Spiderman has been pushed off a rooftop, and he thinks to himself, &#8220;Ungh&#8230; falling&#8230;&#8221;  &#8220;If can only&#8230; shoot web&#8230; at that flagpole&#8230;&#8221;  Of course, this has got nothing on the amazing dash-dash-dash sightlines in Nancy.  &#8220;Sluggo! [dash-dash-dash]  Am I looking at your new hat?!&#8221;  &#8220;Yes, Nancy, you are, as the sightlines running directly from your eyes to my hat seem to imply.&#8221;</p>
<p>For sheer entertainment value, I&#8217;d also point out the marvelous passage in &#8220;Flowers for Algernon&#8221; where the narrator writes, &#8220;Today, I learned, the comma, it is, hard, to know, when to use, the comma,&#8230;&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: sg</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/08/14/grammatical-gender/#comment-496424</link>
		<dc:creator>sg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Aug 2008 17:04:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/08/14/grammatical-gender/#comment-496424</guid>
		<description>I &lt;b&gt;think&lt;/b&gt; that you are all &lt;b&gt;gay&lt;/b&gt;. Real &lt;b&gt;men&lt;/b&gt; randomly &lt;b&gt;bold&lt;/b&gt; statements in their &lt;b&gt;sentences&lt;/b&gt;, even occasionally &lt;b&gt;doing&lt;/b&gt; so where &lt;b&gt;the&lt;/b&gt; emphasis is wrong. &lt;b&gt;This&lt;/b&gt; is how Supermen and Supervillains have &lt;b&gt;talked&lt;/b&gt; since the &lt;b&gt;sixties&lt;/b&gt; in Marvel &lt;b&gt;Comics&lt;/b&gt;. It's &lt;b&gt;like&lt;/b&gt; an Iambic &lt;b&gt;Pentameter&lt;/b&gt; of &lt;b&gt;tough&lt;/b&gt;; though &lt;b&gt;of course&lt;/b&gt;, real &lt;b&gt;men&lt;/b&gt; know &lt;b&gt;nothing&lt;/b&gt; of &lt;b&gt;poetry&lt;/b&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I <b>think</b> that you are all <b>gay</b>. Real <b>men</b> randomly <b>bold</b> statements in their <b>sentences</b>, even occasionally <b>doing</b> so where <b>the</b> emphasis is wrong. <b>This</b> is how Supermen and Supervillains have <b>talked</b> since the <b>sixties</b> in Marvel <b>Comics</b>. It&#8217;s <b>like</b> an Iambic <b>Pentameter</b> of <b>tough</b>; though <b>of course</b>, real <b>men</b> know <b>nothing</b> of <b>poetry</b>.</p>
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		<title>By: Pavlov's Cat</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/08/14/grammatical-gender/#comment-496223</link>
		<dc:creator>Pavlov's Cat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 15:34:32 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/08/14/grammatical-gender/#comment-496223</guid>
		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Ambigulous Aug 14th, 2008 at 3:07 pm

    nah, FDB: it’s the namby-pamby “have I finished this sentence?

Y’see, I would’ve used a semicolon rather than a colon there…&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Actually, that's one of the rare cases where either would be appropriate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Ambigulous Aug 14th, 2008 at 3:07 pm</p>
<p>    nah, FDB: it’s the namby-pamby “have I finished this sentence?</p>
<p>Y’see, I would’ve used a semicolon rather than a colon there…</p></blockquote>
<p>Actually, that&#8217;s one of the rare cases where either would be appropriate.</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick B</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/08/14/grammatical-gender/#comment-496024</link>
		<dc:creator>Patrick B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 03:11:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/08/14/grammatical-gender/#comment-496024</guid>
		<description>We programmers find the semi colon to be indispensable as in:

long now = new Date().getTime();
UserDetails details = usrMgrOID.getUser(eNumber);
long then = new Date().getTime(); 

if you see what I mean.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We programmers find the semi colon to be indispensable as in:</p>
<p>long now = new Date().getTime();<br />
UserDetails details = usrMgrOID.getUser(eNumber);<br />
long then = new Date().getTime(); </p>
<p>if you see what I mean.</p>
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		<title>By: tigtog</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/08/14/grammatical-gender/#comment-495863</link>
		<dc:creator>tigtog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 11:38:14 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/08/14/grammatical-gender/#comment-495863</guid>
		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The free exclamation marks are on me!&lt;/blockquote&gt;

To which the only possible response is:

&lt;blockquote&gt;"Multiple exclamation marks," he went on, shaking his head, "are a sure sign of a diseased mind."

    -- (Terry Pratchett, Eric)&lt;/blockquote&gt;

As &lt;a href="http://www.lspace.org/" rel="nofollow"&gt;lspace.org&lt;/a&gt; says, this is "Something that Terry feels strongly about, because a similar quote also appears in &lt;i&gt;Reaper Man&lt;/i&gt;".

So there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!</p>
<p>The free exclamation marks are on me!</p></blockquote>
<p>To which the only possible response is:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;Multiple exclamation marks,&#8221; he went on, shaking his head, &#8220;are a sure sign of a diseased mind.&#8221;</p>
<p>    &#8212; (Terry Pratchett, Eric)</p></blockquote>
<p>As <a href="http://www.lspace.org/" rel="nofollow">lspace.org</a> says, this is &#8220;Something that Terry feels strongly about, because a similar quote also appears in <i>Reaper Man</i>&#8220;.</p>
<p>So there.</p>
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		<title>By: Youie</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/08/14/grammatical-gender/#comment-495856</link>
		<dc:creator>Youie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 10:39:23 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/08/14/grammatical-gender/#comment-495856</guid>
		<description>I'm picking up what you're putting down, to quote the young folks these days.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m picking up what you&#8217;re putting down, to quote the young folks these days.</p>
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		<title>By: Gummo Trotsky</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/08/14/grammatical-gender/#comment-495854</link>
		<dc:creator>Gummo Trotsky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 10:29:58 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/08/14/grammatical-gender/#comment-495854</guid>
		<description>You seem a little insecure about your sexuality Youie; either a comma or an en-dash could replace that colon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You seem a little insecure about your sexuality Youie; either a comma or an en-dash could replace that colon.</p>
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		<title>By: Youie</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/08/14/grammatical-gender/#comment-495851</link>
		<dc:creator>Youie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 10:16:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/08/14/grammatical-gender/#comment-495851</guid>
		<description>Ambigulous Aug 14th, 2008 at 3:07 pm 
&lt;blockquote&gt;nah, FDB: it’s the namby-pamby “have I finished this sentence?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Y'see, I would've used a semicolon rather than a colon there...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ambigulous Aug 14th, 2008 at 3:07 pm </p>
<blockquote><p>nah, FDB: it’s the namby-pamby “have I finished this sentence?</p></blockquote>
<p>Y&#8217;see, I would&#8217;ve used a semicolon rather than a colon there&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Laura</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/08/14/grammatical-gender/#comment-495847</link>
		<dc:creator>Laura</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 09:41:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/08/14/grammatical-gender/#comment-495847</guid>
		<description>Well, semicolons were thought of as signalling a rational &#38; thus manly prose style in the late eighteenth / early nineteenth century, by English publishers anyway.  And they would put them in wherever the writing was betraying too much girly enthusiasm by way of excessive dashing and insufficiently classically balanced clauses.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, semicolons were thought of as signalling a rational &amp; thus manly prose style in the late eighteenth / early nineteenth century, by English publishers anyway.  And they would put them in wherever the writing was betraying too much girly enthusiasm by way of excessive dashing and insufficiently classically balanced clauses.</p>
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		<title>By: FDB</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/08/14/grammatical-gender/#comment-495836</link>
		<dc:creator>FDB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 07:57:27 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/08/14/grammatical-gender/#comment-495836</guid>
		<description>Subject.

Anyway, I'm a massive abuser of the spaced en - it rocks!!! Microsoft Word makes it into a spaced em automatically though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Subject.</p>
<p>Anyway, I&#8217;m a massive abuser of the spaced en - it rocks!!! Microsoft Word makes it into a spaced em automatically though.</p>
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		<title>By: Darryl Rosin</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/08/14/grammatical-gender/#comment-495826</link>
		<dc:creator>Darryl Rosin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 07:32:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/08/14/grammatical-gender/#comment-495826</guid>
		<description>"what you want is a pair of em dashes, used to separate an independent clause within a statement."

No, no, no. Unless you're forcibly chained to a 'house style' (like the silly old &lt;em&gt;Chicago Manual&lt;/em&gt;, spaced ens are the way to go. Robert Bringhurst says em dashes "belongs to the padded and corseted aesthetic of Victorian typography". I don't mind an ellipse to mark aposiopesis, but built-in ellipses (option–semicolon) are almost always rubbish and three periods are just cheap and dirty.

But the fact remains I wouldn't recognise an independant clause if I fell over it. I'm just terrible at that sort of thing. I can't even reliably pick out the finite verb in a simple sentence. (speaking of which, is it the subject or the object that goes before the verb in a simple sentence?)

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;what you want is a pair of em dashes, used to separate an independent clause within a statement.&#8221;</p>
<p>No, no, no. Unless you&#8217;re forcibly chained to a &#8216;house style&#8217; (like the silly old <em>Chicago Manual</em>, spaced ens are the way to go. Robert Bringhurst says em dashes &#8220;belongs to the padded and corseted aesthetic of Victorian typography&#8221;. I don&#8217;t mind an ellipse to mark aposiopesis, but built-in ellipses (option–semicolon) are almost always rubbish and three periods are just cheap and dirty.</p>
<p>But the fact remains I wouldn&#8217;t recognise an independant clause if I fell over it. I&#8217;m just terrible at that sort of thing. I can&#8217;t even reliably pick out the finite verb in a simple sentence. (speaking of which, is it the subject or the object that goes before the verb in a simple sentence?)</p>
<p>d</p>
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		<title>By: dj</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/08/14/grammatical-gender/#comment-495825</link>
		<dc:creator>dj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 07:31:07 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/08/14/grammatical-gender/#comment-495825</guid>
		<description>!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The free exclamation marks are on me!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!</p>
<p>The free exclamation marks are on me!</p>
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		<title>By: A Gnome "Named" Grimble "Grumble"</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/08/14/grammatical-gender/#comment-495823</link>
		<dc:creator>A Gnome "Named" Grimble "Grumble"</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 07:22:46 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/08/14/grammatical-gender/#comment-495823</guid>
		<description>For a "good" "laugh," check out The "Blog" of Unnecessary Quotation "Marks".</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For a &#8220;good&#8221; &#8220;laugh,&#8221; check out The &#8220;Blog&#8221; of Unnecessary Quotation &#8220;Marks&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: TimT</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/08/14/grammatical-gender/#comment-495820</link>
		<dc:creator>TimT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 07:07:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/08/14/grammatical-gender/#comment-495820</guid>
		<description>"Agreed".</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Agreed&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Lefty E</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/08/14/grammatical-gender/#comment-495816</link>
		<dc:creator>Lefty E</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 06:55:30 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/08/14/grammatical-gender/#comment-495816</guid>
		<description>What are people's "views" on the employment of "scare quotes" in social science? my own "impression", formed over several "years", is that its an evasive "tool" commonly employed to "avoid" saying anything "concrete" or  "committal" about the "topic" you allegedly "know something" about.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What are people&#8217;s &#8220;views&#8221; on the employment of &#8220;scare quotes&#8221; in social science? my own &#8220;impression&#8221;, formed over several &#8220;years&#8221;, is that its an evasive &#8220;tool&#8221; commonly employed to &#8220;avoid&#8221; saying anything &#8220;concrete&#8221; or  &#8220;committal&#8221; about the &#8220;topic&#8221; you allegedly &#8220;know something&#8221; about.</p>
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		<title>By: Sean</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/08/14/grammatical-gender/#comment-495815</link>
		<dc:creator>Sean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 06:51:17 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/08/14/grammatical-gender/#comment-495815</guid>
		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Are today’s male writers just more insecure than yesterday’s about the manliness of their vocation?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Consider the chickenhawk, grasshopper (and Helen).  The more gentle, bourgouis, office-bound and physically risk-free his life has been, the more likely he is to side with whatever option seems more macho.   

The fewer traditionally manly things a dude has been called upon to do, the more likely he is to set up false masculinity tests that he can pass.

&lt;blockquote&gt;If I were him I would put in everything now and go until something broke. But, thank God, they are not as intelligent as we who kill them&lt;strong&gt;;&lt;/strong&gt; although they are more noble and more able.
...
The wind is our friend, anyway, he thought&lt;strong&gt;;&lt;/strong&gt; Then he added, sometimes. And the great sea with our friends and our enemies. And bed he thought. Bed is my friend. Just bed, he thought. Bed will be a great thing</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Are today’s male writers just more insecure than yesterday’s about the manliness of their vocation?</p></blockquote>
<p>Consider the chickenhawk, grasshopper (and Helen).  The more gentle, bourgouis, office-bound and physically risk-free his life has been, the more likely he is to side with whatever option seems more macho.   </p>
<p>The fewer traditionally manly things a dude has been called upon to do, the more likely he is to set up false masculinity tests that he can pass.</p>
<blockquote><p>If I were him I would put in everything now and go until something broke. But, thank God, they are not as intelligent as we who kill them<strong>;</strong> although they are more noble and more able.<br />
&#8230;<br />
The wind is our friend, anyway, he thought<strong>;</strong> Then he added, sometimes. And the great sea with our friends and our enemies. And bed he thought. Bed is my friend. Just bed, he thought. Bed will be a great thing</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: Liam</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/08/14/grammatical-gender/#comment-495814</link>
		<dc:creator>Liam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 06:43:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/08/14/grammatical-gender/#comment-495814</guid>
		<description>Darryl, what you want is a pair of em dashes, used to separate an independent clause within a statement.
As long as you're not using the ellipsis, which is an abomination.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Darryl, what you want is a pair of em dashes, used to separate an independent clause within a statement.<br />
As long as you&#8217;re not using the ellipsis, which is an abomination.</p>
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