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	<title>Comments on: 7&#8217;s lies, damned lies and medal counts</title>
	<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/08/18/7s-lies-dammed-lies-and-medal-counts/</link>
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		<title>By: Kim</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/08/18/7s-lies-dammed-lies-and-medal-counts/#comment-497381</link>
		<dc:creator>Kim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2008 13:51:40 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/08/18/7s-lies-dammed-lies-and-medal-counts/#comment-497381</guid>
		<description>I wonder how ABC2 is going to cover the Paralympics.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder how ABC2 is going to cover the Paralympics.</p>
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		<title>By: Hydroxy</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/08/18/7s-lies-dammed-lies-and-medal-counts/#comment-497377</link>
		<dc:creator>Hydroxy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2008 13:42:07 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/08/18/7s-lies-dammed-lies-and-medal-counts/#comment-497377</guid>
		<description>I have had a big screen TV for around a year now, and with the countdown to the Olympics approaching I was glad I had invested in this TV.

 I was thinking that with channel 7 having so many digital channels, that I would have access to 5 separate channel 7 stations with varied coverage, however all I seem to have access to is 5 channels all with the same coverage on it, every night.

What an extremely bad coverage this has been.

What has made it even worse is the amount of commentary which is from what seems to be people who know very little about sport in general, or if they know something about sport they do not seem to know much about the particular sport they are commenting on.

I do not watch NRL or AFL but I do know that when I hear it on TV most weekends the commentary is much better than what I have experienced from 7s coverage of this Olympics. Where is the passion in this Olympics commentary?

I find myself not really into this Olympics at all, and I would say that it comes down to a very poor coverage on behalf of the 7 network.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have had a big screen TV for around a year now, and with the countdown to the Olympics approaching I was glad I had invested in this TV.</p>
<p> I was thinking that with channel 7 having so many digital channels, that I would have access to 5 separate channel 7 stations with varied coverage, however all I seem to have access to is 5 channels all with the same coverage on it, every night.</p>
<p>What an extremely bad coverage this has been.</p>
<p>What has made it even worse is the amount of commentary which is from what seems to be people who know very little about sport in general, or if they know something about sport they do not seem to know much about the particular sport they are commenting on.</p>
<p>I do not watch NRL or AFL but I do know that when I hear it on TV most weekends the commentary is much better than what I have experienced from 7s coverage of this Olympics. Where is the passion in this Olympics commentary?</p>
<p>I find myself not really into this Olympics at all, and I would say that it comes down to a very poor coverage on behalf of the 7 network.</p>
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		<title>By: j_p_z</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/08/18/7s-lies-dammed-lies-and-medal-counts/#comment-497362</link>
		<dc:creator>j_p_z</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2008 12:27:32 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/08/18/7s-lies-dammed-lies-and-medal-counts/#comment-497362</guid>
		<description>joe2: "my expectation was that it would have been someone [--Jamaicans?--] connected, with that damnable Obama"

um, I think you may be confusing Obama with Colin Powell, as people so often do.  IIRC, Powell has West Indian family background; Obama, to the best of my knowledge, does not.  Beyond that guess, I'm at a loss as to what you mean here.  Perhaps the Obama team is thinking of using "Draw Your Brakes" as its campaign theme song?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>joe2: &#8220;my expectation was that it would have been someone [&#8211;Jamaicans?&#8211;] connected, with that damnable Obama&#8221;</p>
<p>um, I think you may be confusing Obama with Colin Powell, as people so often do.  IIRC, Powell has West Indian family background; Obama, to the best of my knowledge, does not.  Beyond that guess, I&#8217;m at a loss as to what you mean here.  Perhaps the Obama team is thinking of using &#8220;Draw Your Brakes&#8221; as its campaign theme song?</p>
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		<title>By: joe2</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/08/18/7s-lies-dammed-lies-and-medal-counts/#comment-497350</link>
		<dc:creator>joe2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2008 11:49:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/08/18/7s-lies-dammed-lies-and-medal-counts/#comment-497350</guid>
		<description>Thanks, via collins, my expectation was that it would have been someone connected, with that damnable Obama, that had caused all the probs via j_p_z .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, via collins, my expectation was that it would have been someone connected, with that damnable Obama, that had caused all the probs via j_p_z .</p>
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		<title>By: via collins</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/08/18/7s-lies-dammed-lies-and-medal-counts/#comment-497324</link>
		<dc:creator>via collins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2008 10:39:18 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/08/18/7s-lies-dammed-lies-and-medal-counts/#comment-497324</guid>
		<description>Oh boy Joe2, did you get snookered there. Try Jamaicans.

My fave moment has been the 466th ranked bloodnut from Melbourne Australia playing the #1 ranked feller, Chinese now that you ask, in table tennis. # 1 looked utterly staggered as # 466 gave him serious top spin action.

I saw a few moments of the Ch 7 wrap this morning. Sheesh. So that goes for hours each day? No, it couldn't....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh boy Joe2, did you get snookered there. Try Jamaicans.</p>
<p>My fave moment has been the 466th ranked bloodnut from Melbourne Australia playing the #1 ranked feller, Chinese now that you ask, in table tennis. # 1 looked utterly staggered as # 466 gave him serious top spin action.</p>
<p>I saw a few moments of the Ch 7 wrap this morning. Sheesh. So that goes for hours each day? No, it couldn&#8217;t&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: joe2</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/08/18/7s-lies-dammed-lies-and-medal-counts/#comment-497309</link>
		<dc:creator>joe2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2008 09:27:17 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/08/18/7s-lies-dammed-lies-and-medal-counts/#comment-497309</guid>
		<description>Leftist terrorist ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Leftist terrorist ?</p>
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		<title>By: j_p_z</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/08/18/7s-lies-dammed-lies-and-medal-counts/#comment-497297</link>
		<dc:creator>j_p_z</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2008 08:56:30 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/08/18/7s-lies-dammed-lies-and-medal-counts/#comment-497297</guid>
		<description>joe2 -- guess again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>joe2 &#8212; guess again.</p>
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		<title>By: joe2</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/08/18/7s-lies-dammed-lies-and-medal-counts/#comment-497290</link>
		<dc:creator>joe2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2008 08:15:42 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/08/18/7s-lies-dammed-lies-and-medal-counts/#comment-497290</guid>
		<description>"I heard that at one of the track meets, the presumptive victor, who was about to win by a sizeable margin, was actually taunting his nearest competitor, who was his countryman and teammate, right there on the field."

Which American was that  j_p_z ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I heard that at one of the track meets, the presumptive victor, who was about to win by a sizeable margin, was actually taunting his nearest competitor, who was his countryman and teammate, right there on the field.&#8221;</p>
<p>Which American was that  j_p_z ?</p>
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		<title>By: Nick</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/08/18/7s-lies-dammed-lies-and-medal-counts/#comment-497282</link>
		<dc:creator>Nick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2008 07:48:53 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/08/18/7s-lies-dammed-lies-and-medal-counts/#comment-497282</guid>
		<description>Oooh, that was apart from having a big serve at the Chinese who apparently don't rightly deserve to be in 1st place...and that, like, don't you think the Chinese are taking this sport thing waay too seriously?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oooh, that was apart from having a big serve at the Chinese who apparently don&#8217;t rightly deserve to be in 1st place&#8230;and that, like, don&#8217;t you think the Chinese are taking this sport thing waay too seriously?</p>
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		<title>By: Nick</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/08/18/7s-lies-dammed-lies-and-medal-counts/#comment-497281</link>
		<dc:creator>Nick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2008 07:42:18 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/08/18/7s-lies-dammed-lies-and-medal-counts/#comment-497281</guid>
		<description>I had to laugh at the Channel 9 Today team this morning...carried on forever about how the total medals is what should count ("what kind of a message to our children is it, telling them that Silver and Bronze aren't just as worthy efforts as Gold"...I kid you not) and how Australia should rightly be in 3rd place on the table...

What the doofuses failed to notice was, by their logic, it'd actually put Russia up in 3rd place, not Australia...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had to laugh at the Channel 9 Today team this morning&#8230;carried on forever about how the total medals is what should count (&#8221;what kind of a message to our children is it, telling them that Silver and Bronze aren&#8217;t just as worthy efforts as Gold&#8221;&#8230;I kid you not) and how Australia should rightly be in 3rd place on the table&#8230;</p>
<p>What the doofuses failed to notice was, by their logic, it&#8217;d actually put Russia up in 3rd place, not Australia&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Lefty E</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/08/18/7s-lies-dammed-lies-and-medal-counts/#comment-497215</link>
		<dc:creator>Lefty E</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2008 03:48:34 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/08/18/7s-lies-dammed-lies-and-medal-counts/#comment-497215</guid>
		<description>"Channel Nein"

ehehehehehee. Simple but effective.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Channel Nein&#8221;</p>
<p>ehehehehehee. Simple but effective.</p>
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		<title>By: Jacques de Molay</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/08/18/7s-lies-dammed-lies-and-medal-counts/#comment-497207</link>
		<dc:creator>Jacques de Molay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2008 03:24:06 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/08/18/7s-lies-dammed-lies-and-medal-counts/#comment-497207</guid>
		<description>I agree that Seven's coverage has been pretty poor. I wouldn't expect all the over the top "Aussie Aussie Aussie Oi Oi Oi!" crap to stop with Channel Nein in 2012 though. Is it just me or did all this "I'm Australian so f__k you" stuff get so much worse under John Howard? That Lawrie Lawrence needs to be drop kicked into oblivion. 

The Boomers basketball games haven't been getting the greatest coverage from Channel Seven but I'll be beside myself if they don't show our Quarter Final game tomorrow night against the USA.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that Seven&#8217;s coverage has been pretty poor. I wouldn&#8217;t expect all the over the top &#8220;Aussie Aussie Aussie Oi Oi Oi!&#8221; crap to stop with Channel Nein in 2012 though. Is it just me or did all this &#8220;I&#8217;m Australian so f__k you&#8221; stuff get so much worse under John Howard? That Lawrie Lawrence needs to be drop kicked into oblivion. </p>
<p>The Boomers basketball games haven&#8217;t been getting the greatest coverage from Channel Seven but I&#8217;ll be beside myself if they don&#8217;t show our Quarter Final game tomorrow night against the USA.</p>
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		<title>By: j_p_z</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/08/18/7s-lies-dammed-lies-and-medal-counts/#comment-497046</link>
		<dc:creator>j_p_z</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 15:03:06 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/08/18/7s-lies-dammed-lies-and-medal-counts/#comment-497046</guid>
		<description>"stop trying to manufacture a false success out of silly comparisons and leave the mindless nationalism out of the equation, that is the Olympic spirit..."

There's nothing categorically 'mindless' about nationalism, it's what you do with it.  Some of the national sentiment on display at the Olympics is certainly dopey, but some of it is also commendable.  I heard that at one of the track meets, the presumptive victor, who was about to win by a sizeable margin, was actually taunting his nearest competitor, who was his countryman and teammate, right there on the field.  Was this shabby but individualist behavior somehow categorically superior to nationalism?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;stop trying to manufacture a false success out of silly comparisons and leave the mindless nationalism out of the equation, that is the Olympic spirit&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>There&#8217;s nothing categorically &#8216;mindless&#8217; about nationalism, it&#8217;s what you do with it.  Some of the national sentiment on display at the Olympics is certainly dopey, but some of it is also commendable.  I heard that at one of the track meets, the presumptive victor, who was about to win by a sizeable margin, was actually taunting his nearest competitor, who was his countryman and teammate, right there on the field.  Was this shabby but individualist behavior somehow categorically superior to nationalism?</p>
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		<title>By: b.lyle</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/08/18/7s-lies-dammed-lies-and-medal-counts/#comment-497008</link>
		<dc:creator>b.lyle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 11:07:33 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/08/18/7s-lies-dammed-lies-and-medal-counts/#comment-497008</guid>
		<description>I actually think total nudity would lead to a less sexual view of the athletes than the current revealing clothing. Not sure it would encourage female participation in the short term though. And male track times would probably go up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I actually think total nudity would lead to a less sexual view of the athletes than the current revealing clothing. Not sure it would encourage female participation in the short term though. And male track times would probably go up.</p>
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		<title>By: myriad</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/08/18/7s-lies-dammed-lies-and-medal-counts/#comment-496967</link>
		<dc:creator>myriad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 08:05:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/08/18/7s-lies-dammed-lies-and-medal-counts/#comment-496967</guid>
		<description>&lt;i&gt;Actually it was nude and oiled, myriad. NTTAWWT.&lt;/i&gt;

I know, I know but I thought I might open another can of worms if I said that, 'specially as the girlies didn't get to compete back then. Some innovation is good! - including loincloths for the boys!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Actually it was nude and oiled, myriad. NTTAWWT.</i></p>
<p>I know, I know but I thought I might open another can of worms if I said that, &#8217;specially as the girlies didn&#8217;t get to compete back then. Some innovation is good! - including loincloths for the boys!</p>
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		<title>By: Nick</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/08/18/7s-lies-dammed-lies-and-medal-counts/#comment-496964</link>
		<dc:creator>Nick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 07:56:38 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/08/18/7s-lies-dammed-lies-and-medal-counts/#comment-496964</guid>
		<description>What!  How would we sports lobbyist-salespeople requisite millions of dollars of funding for loincloths/oil?

You just put us out of of a job (though I've heard snake oil can cost a bit)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What!  How would we sports lobbyist-salespeople requisite millions of dollars of funding for loincloths/oil?</p>
<p>You just put us out of of a job (though I&#8217;ve heard snake oil can cost a bit)</p>
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		<title>By: Fine</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/08/18/7s-lies-dammed-lies-and-medal-counts/#comment-496962</link>
		<dc:creator>Fine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 07:48:34 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/08/18/7s-lies-dammed-lies-and-medal-counts/#comment-496962</guid>
		<description>Go get 'em Lefty E.

Andrew, there are many reaasons to criticise how arts funding is distributed in Oz. Dislike of competition isn't one of them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Go get &#8216;em Lefty E.</p>
<p>Andrew, there are many reaasons to criticise how arts funding is distributed in Oz. Dislike of competition isn&#8217;t one of them.</p>
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		<title>By: Altus, Fortus, Priapus</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/08/18/7s-lies-dammed-lies-and-medal-counts/#comment-496961</link>
		<dc:creator>Altus, Fortus, Priapus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 07:47:06 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/08/18/7s-lies-dammed-lies-and-medal-counts/#comment-496961</guid>
		<description>Actually it was nude and oiled, myriad. NTTAWWT.
&lt;blockquote&gt;pin the tail on the Wheel of Fortune&lt;/blockquote&gt;
A very Delphic solution, Pavlov's Cat. I for one welcome &lt;a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5XLdkuhg-ek" rel="nofollow"&gt;Adriana Xenides&lt;/a&gt; to the Agora of arts funding.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually it was nude and oiled, myriad. NTTAWWT.</p>
<blockquote><p>pin the tail on the Wheel of Fortune</p></blockquote>
<p>A very Delphic solution, Pavlov&#8217;s Cat. I for one welcome <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5XLdkuhg-ek" rel="nofollow">Adriana Xenides</a> to the Agora of arts funding.</p>
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		<title>By: myriad</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/08/18/7s-lies-dammed-lies-and-medal-counts/#comment-496960</link>
		<dc:creator>myriad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 07:38:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/08/18/7s-lies-dammed-lies-and-medal-counts/#comment-496960</guid>
		<description>&lt;i&gt;My first suggestion? All athletes march and compete under the Olympic flag, not wear national uniforms but compete in a generic outfit suitable to their sport and yes, keep score on the sporting field not off of it.&lt;/i&gt;

It'd be a fab start! And ban all the bloody technological advance crap; no more shark suits etc. Hell, get em all back in loincloths.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>My first suggestion? All athletes march and compete under the Olympic flag, not wear national uniforms but compete in a generic outfit suitable to their sport and yes, keep score on the sporting field not off of it.</i></p>
<p>It&#8217;d be a fab start! And ban all the bloody technological advance crap; no more shark suits etc. Hell, get em all back in loincloths.</p>
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		<title>By: Nick</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/08/18/7s-lies-dammed-lies-and-medal-counts/#comment-496950</link>
		<dc:creator>Nick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 06:59:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/08/18/7s-lies-dammed-lies-and-medal-counts/#comment-496950</guid>
		<description>How bout this interpretation...if the tally was based on the Men's medal count, we'd be back in 8th place right now, on Women's we'd still be in 3rd.  It's our pissweak men that are holding us back.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How bout this interpretation&#8230;if the tally was based on the Men&#8217;s medal count, we&#8217;d be back in 8th place right now, on Women&#8217;s we&#8217;d still be in 3rd.  It&#8217;s our pissweak men that are holding us back.</p>
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