Comments on: Cheap shots from the last presidential race that are largely missing from this one http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/09/04/cheap-shots-from-the-last-presidential-race-that-are-largely-missing-from-this-one/ Life, Culture and Politics from BrisVegas Tue, 14 Feb 2012 10:53:13 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3 By: Nudgerly Snigger http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/09/04/cheap-shots-from-the-last-presidential-race-that-are-largely-missing-from-this-one/#comment-214176 Nudgerly Snigger Fri, 14 Nov 2008 04:12:31 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/09/04/cheap-shots-from-the-last-presidential-race-that-are-largely-missing-from-this-one/#comment-214176 OK, OK! But don't you be talking that verrrrry feelthy French with me. I didn't learn any French in school, so I can't imagine what you wrote about. It looks like "The pen is mightier than..." no, I give up. OK, OK! But don’t you be talking that verrrrry feelthy French with me. I didn’t learn any French in school, so I can’t imagine what you wrote about. It looks like
“The pen is
mightier than…”

no, I give up.

]]> By: Wink Wink http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/09/04/cheap-shots-from-the-last-presidential-race-that-are-largely-missing-from-this-one/#comment-214175 Wink Wink Fri, 14 Nov 2008 01:21:14 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/09/04/cheap-shots-from-the-last-presidential-race-that-are-largely-missing-from-this-one/#comment-214175 Hmmm...Not quite what I meant. Ne touchez pas le pénis ;) Hmmm…Not quite what I meant. Ne touchez pas le pénis ;)

]]> By: nudge nudge http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/09/04/cheap-shots-from-the-last-presidential-race-that-are-largely-missing-from-this-one/#comment-214174 nudge nudge Fri, 14 Nov 2008 01:06:04 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/09/04/cheap-shots-from-the-last-presidential-race-that-are-largely-missing-from-this-one/#comment-214174 What, precisely, do 10-year-olds have a grasp on? Hope it's not the same as what 50-year-olds have in hand. What, precisely, do 10-year-olds have a grasp on? Hope it’s not the same as what 50-year-olds have in hand.

]]> By: Erotema http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/09/04/cheap-shots-from-the-last-presidential-race-that-are-largely-missing-from-this-one/#comment-214173 Erotema Thu, 13 Nov 2008 10:09:28 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/09/04/cheap-shots-from-the-last-presidential-race-that-are-largely-missing-from-this-one/#comment-214173 I knew you wouldn't disappoint me Adrien. :) I actually agree with you that attempts to control human sexuality have the ability to fuck things up. But your perception of sex-Ed. is archaic as A-B-C sex-Ed is the norm. Even if kids don't receive a formal education in contraception, ten year olds have a grasp on it. I knew you wouldn’t disappoint me Adrien. :)
I actually agree with you that attempts to control human sexuality have the ability to fuck things up. But your perception of sex-Ed. is archaic as A-B-C sex-Ed is the norm. Even if kids don’t receive a formal education in contraception, ten year olds have a grasp on it.

]]> By: Adrien http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/09/04/cheap-shots-from-the-last-presidential-race-that-are-largely-missing-from-this-one/#comment-214172 Adrien Thu, 13 Nov 2008 09:19:22 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/09/04/cheap-shots-from-the-last-presidential-race-that-are-largely-missing-from-this-one/#comment-214172 <i>why do you always comment as if you have some special insight into the woes of the world having origins in sex-phobia?</i> . The notion that fucked up sex lives fucks up life in general is hardly one I originated. I have no 'special insights' as far as I'm aware. The control of human sexuality is at the heart of all moral systems. These systems of sexual control are thought by those who support them to be universal and eternal, mandated by God. They're not. They're contingent. They're just contingent over long periods. . The Christian view of sex as something restricted to marriage and strictly for reproduction is no longer appropriate in my view. (Actually it never was.) Yet there are people who wish to entrench it. The correlation between low levels of education about contraception and the occurrence of teenage and unplanned pregnancy tells you something. Sorry it does. Kids have sex. If those girls getting pregnant without planning to are the same girls who've received abstinence only sex education it says something. And there's a correlation. . Personally I don't mind. If people want to have fucked up sex lives, no joy and twisted attitudes to what is a pretty natural and fun part of life - fine. Just leave the rest of us out of it. . That they don't provides the reason for the conflict. why do you always comment as if you have some special insight into the woes of the world having origins in sex-phobia?
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The notion that fucked up sex lives fucks up life in general is hardly one I originated. I have no ‘special insights’ as far as I’m aware. The control of human sexuality is at the heart of all moral systems. These systems of sexual control are thought by those who support them to be universal and eternal, mandated by God. They’re not. They’re contingent. They’re just contingent over long periods.
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The Christian view of sex as something restricted to marriage and strictly for reproduction is no longer appropriate in my view. (Actually it never was.) Yet there are people who wish to entrench it. The correlation between low levels of education about contraception and the occurrence of teenage and unplanned pregnancy tells you something. Sorry it does. Kids have sex. If those girls getting pregnant without planning to are the same girls who’ve received abstinence only sex education it says something. And there’s a correlation.
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Personally I don’t mind. If people want to have fucked up sex lives, no joy and twisted attitudes to what is a pretty natural and fun part of life – fine. Just leave the rest of us out of it.
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That they don’t provides the reason for the conflict.

]]> By: Nanuestalker http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/09/04/cheap-shots-from-the-last-presidential-race-that-are-largely-missing-from-this-one/#comment-214171 Nanuestalker Thu, 13 Nov 2008 09:04:15 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/09/04/cheap-shots-from-the-last-presidential-race-that-are-largely-missing-from-this-one/#comment-214171 No it doesn't Adrien, it just confirms that school kids do have sex. BTW, why do you always comment as if you have some special insight into the woes of the world having origins in sex-phobia? No it doesn’t Adrien, it just confirms that school kids do have sex.

BTW, why do you always comment as if you have some special insight into the woes of the world having origins in sex-phobia?

]]> By: Adrien http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/09/04/cheap-shots-from-the-last-presidential-race-that-are-largely-missing-from-this-one/#comment-214170 Adrien Thu, 13 Nov 2008 08:50:52 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/09/04/cheap-shots-from-the-last-presidential-race-that-are-largely-missing-from-this-one/#comment-214170 America's political scene seems to be mired in mud-slinging. Some of the hysterical crap you read is so extreme you wonder if the people who buy it should be entitled to vote. Most of it seems to come from the partisans outside the official campaigns. Still you have to wonder at the mentality of 'Bros Before Hos' etc. . That said I'm not sure that Sarah Palin's kids are entirely off-limits. I wouldn't condone hassling them but surely her daughter's unplanned pregnancy says something about no-sex sex education? America’s political scene seems to be mired in mud-slinging. Some of the hysterical crap you read is so extreme you wonder if the people who buy it should be entitled to vote. Most of it seems to come from the partisans outside the official campaigns. Still you have to wonder at the mentality of ‘Bros Before Hos’ etc.
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That said I’m not sure that Sarah Palin’s kids are entirely off-limits. I wouldn’t condone hassling them but surely her daughter’s unplanned pregnancy says something about no-sex sex education?

]]> By: Libby Carey http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/09/04/cheap-shots-from-the-last-presidential-race-that-are-largely-missing-from-this-one/#comment-214169 Libby Carey Thu, 13 Nov 2008 04:09:43 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/09/04/cheap-shots-from-the-last-presidential-race-that-are-largely-missing-from-this-one/#comment-214169 4ejo0xqfhkjds3p0 4ejo0xqfhkjds3p0

]]> By: Enemy Combatant http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/09/04/cheap-shots-from-the-last-presidential-race-that-are-largely-missing-from-this-one/#comment-214168 Enemy Combatant Thu, 04 Sep 2008 12:35:00 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/09/04/cheap-shots-from-the-last-presidential-race-that-are-largely-missing-from-this-one/#comment-214168 Nate Silver notes that Palin’s speech may have released a “Reverse Redneck” dynamic upon the campaign. A delicious irony if it gains momentum spurred by hard evidence of “conduct unbecoming” discovered as the forensic examination of Ms Palin’s past continues afrenziedly. <blockquote>Palin may be just as American as anybody, but she still seems to come from Somewhere Else. This would be fine... even interesting and appealing... if she weren't attacking{Obama}. But we have a deep, instinctive aversion to people who are part of us (even if we don't really like them much) being attacked by people we perceive as outsiders. Our instinct is to stiffen up, to protect.</blockquote> http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/2008/09/cognitive-dissonance.html “Last night I saw Lester Maddox on a TV show With some smart-ass New York Jew And the Jew laughed at Lester Maddox And the audience laughed at Lester Maddox too Well, he may be a fool but he's our fool If they think they're better than him they're wrong……” Randy Newman. Nate Silver notes that Palin’s speech may have released a “Reverse Redneck” dynamic upon the campaign.
A delicious irony if it gains momentum spurred by hard evidence of “conduct unbecoming” discovered as the forensic examination of Ms Palin’s past continues afrenziedly.

Palin may be just as American as anybody, but she still seems to come from Somewhere Else.

This would be fine… even interesting and appealing… if she weren’t attacking{Obama}. But we have a deep, instinctive aversion to people who are part of us (even if we don’t really like them much) being attacked by people we perceive as outsiders. Our instinct is to stiffen up, to protect.

http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/2008/09/cognitive-dissonance.html

“Last night I saw Lester Maddox on a TV show
With some smart-ass New York Jew
And the Jew laughed at Lester Maddox
And the audience laughed at Lester Maddox too
Well, he may be a fool but he’s our fool
If they think they’re better than him they’re wrong……”

Randy Newman.

]]> By: Ambigulous http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/09/04/cheap-shots-from-the-last-presidential-race-that-are-largely-missing-from-this-one/#comment-214167 Ambigulous Thu, 04 Sep 2008 11:47:57 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/09/04/cheap-shots-from-the-last-presidential-race-that-are-largely-missing-from-this-one/#comment-214167 I'm glad you know and like him. I read a piece he wrote a few years back, pining for communism, and it rather put me off. Good on you for supporting an old friend. His scripts for Max Gillies were wonderful: agreed. I’m glad you know and like him. I read a piece he wrote a few years back, pining for communism, and it rather put me off. Good on you for supporting an old friend. His scripts for Max Gillies were wonderful: agreed.

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