Comments on: Sneers and ridicule from the GOP for the very idea of community organising http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/09/05/sneers-and-ridicule-from-the-gop-for-the-very-idea-of-community-organising/ Life, Culture and Politics from BrisVegas Tue, 14 Feb 2012 10:11:31 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3 By: Brian http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/09/05/sneers-and-ridicule-from-the-gop-for-the-very-idea-of-community-organising/#comment-214570 Brian Tue, 09 Sep 2008 16:00:31 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/09/05/sneers-and-ridicule-from-the-gop-for-the-very-idea-of-community-organising/#comment-214570 joe2, I did hear Jimmy Carter with my own ears say that if his outfit were called to observe the US elections he wouldn't bother getting out of bed. The necessary conditions for a fair election simply don't exist in the land of the free! joe2, I did hear Jimmy Carter with my own ears say that if his outfit were called to observe the US elections he wouldn’t bother getting out of bed. The necessary conditions for a fair election simply don’t exist in the land of the free!

]]> By: Kim http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/09/05/sneers-and-ridicule-from-the-gop-for-the-very-idea-of-community-organising/#comment-214569 Kim Tue, 09 Sep 2008 13:57:43 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/09/05/sneers-and-ridicule-from-the-gop-for-the-very-idea-of-community-organising/#comment-214569 Ah, cool, no probs, Dr Cat. Ah, cool, no probs, Dr Cat.

]]> By: Pavlov's Cat http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/09/05/sneers-and-ridicule-from-the-gop-for-the-very-idea-of-community-organising/#comment-214568 Pavlov's Cat Tue, 09 Sep 2008 13:41:37 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/09/05/sneers-and-ridicule-from-the-gop-for-the-very-idea-of-community-organising/#comment-214568 Kim, no, no, that's not what I meant at all -- I'm grateful that you deleted it and was referring merely to possible future violations of courtesy and good taste; I'm sufficiently familiar with Nanuestalker's style to have a fair idea what it said. If Nasking and Brian are right then it seems I was, in any case, just momentarily mixing up my dates. Kim, no, no, that’s not what I meant at all — I’m grateful that you deleted it and was referring merely to possible future violations of courtesy and good taste; I’m sufficiently familiar with Nanuestalker’s style to have a fair idea what it said.

If Nasking and Brian are right then it seems I was, in any case, just momentarily mixing up my dates.

]]> By: Kim http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/09/05/sneers-and-ridicule-from-the-gop-for-the-very-idea-of-community-organising/#comment-214567 Kim Tue, 09 Sep 2008 12:52:11 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/09/05/sneers-and-ridicule-from-the-gop-for-the-very-idea-of-community-organising/#comment-214567 Not generous at all in this case, Dr Cat, just not around at the time the initial comment by nanuestalker was posted. Not generous at all in this case, Dr Cat, just not around at the time the initial comment by nanuestalker was posted.

]]> By: joe2 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/09/05/sneers-and-ridicule-from-the-gop-for-the-very-idea-of-community-organising/#comment-214566 joe2 Tue, 09 Sep 2008 12:20:37 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/09/05/sneers-and-ridicule-from-the-gop-for-the-very-idea-of-community-organising/#comment-214566 More to that Brian@121 Will people with authority, from around the world, be able to look in and see that a fair election has happened in the home of democracy? More to that Brian@121
Will people with authority, from around the world, be able to look in and see that a fair election has happened in the home of democracy?

]]> By: Brian http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/09/05/sneers-and-ridicule-from-the-gop-for-the-very-idea-of-community-organising/#comment-214565 Brian Tue, 09 Sep 2008 12:09:25 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/09/05/sneers-and-ridicule-from-the-gop-for-the-very-idea-of-community-organising/#comment-214565 It's a while since I looked at it but two years ago <a href="http://larvatusprodeo.net/2006/06/12/stolen-election-the-death-of-democracy/" rel="nofollow">I thought the 2004 election was dead set stolen.</a> It started with the management of the rolls, the allocation of machines on voting day, and some strange things happened in the counting. There were definitely problems in Ohio, which from memory was the difference in the end, but Florida was almost certainly problematic as well. There, however, the official winning was wide enough to give the impression that it must have been fair It’s a while since I looked at it but two years ago I thought the 2004 election was dead set stolen. It started with the management of the rolls, the allocation of machines on voting day, and some strange things happened in the counting.

There were definitely problems in Ohio, which from memory was the difference in the end, but Florida was almost certainly problematic as well. There, however, the official winning was wide enough to give the impression that it must have been fair

]]> By: nasking http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/09/05/sneers-and-ridicule-from-the-gop-for-the-very-idea-of-community-organising/#comment-214564 nasking Tue, 09 Sep 2008 10:44:50 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/09/05/sneers-and-ridicule-from-the-gop-for-the-very-idea-of-community-organising/#comment-214564 "Um, because they cheated in Florida?" There were also problems in Florida in 2004. And particularly in Ohio: Rove, according to our sources, has threatened Republican Party official Mike Connell and his wife Heather if Connell testifies about GOP computerized vote-rigging. Connell has been a top technical wizard for Republican web-based campaign operations, including the firms GovTech Solutions and New Media Communications. WMR has learned from knowledgeable sources in Ohio that Connell and GOP cyber-security expert Stephen Spoonamore were approached by the White House to delete “smoking gun” emails from the White House system that revealed a conspiracy by the Bush administration to fire several U.S. attorneys after the 2004 election. Spoonamore, a GOP supporter of John McCain and CEO of the computer security firm Cybrinth, has confirmed that Rove and the White House conspired to rob 2004 Democratic presidential candidate John Kerry of Ohio, thus ensuring George W. Bush’s “re-election.” According to our Ohio sources, Spoonamore directed attention to 12 Ohio counties where Kerry received fewer votes than down-ticket Democratic candidates. http://www.the-peoples-forum.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=3723 SO YOU WEREN'T FAR OFF Pavlov's Cat N' “Um, because they cheated in Florida?”

There were also problems in Florida in 2004. And particularly in Ohio:

Rove, according to our sources, has threatened Republican Party official Mike Connell and his wife Heather if Connell testifies about GOP computerized vote-rigging. Connell has been a top technical wizard for Republican web-based campaign operations, including the firms GovTech Solutions and New Media Communications. WMR has learned from knowledgeable sources in Ohio that Connell and GOP cyber-security expert Stephen Spoonamore were approached by the White House to delete “smoking gun” emails from the White House system that revealed a conspiracy by the Bush administration to fire several U.S. attorneys after the 2004 election. Spoonamore, a GOP supporter of John McCain and CEO of the computer security firm Cybrinth, has confirmed that Rove and the White House conspired to rob 2004 Democratic presidential candidate John Kerry of Ohio, thus ensuring George W. Bush’s “re-election.” According to our Ohio sources, Spoonamore directed attention to 12 Ohio counties where Kerry received fewer votes than down-ticket Democratic candidates.

http://www.the-peoples-forum.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=3723

SO YOU WEREN’T FAR OFF Pavlov’s Cat
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]]> By: Pavlov's Cat http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/09/05/sneers-and-ridicule-from-the-gop-for-the-very-idea-of-community-organising/#comment-214563 Pavlov's Cat Tue, 09 Sep 2008 09:57:09 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/09/05/sneers-and-ridicule-from-the-gop-for-the-very-idea-of-community-organising/#comment-214563 Gee, I missed the whole thing. Yes, Nanuestalker, my bad, d'oh, etc. It was a careless mistake (made in haste, as Kim surmises), I was wrong, and it would indeed been indescribably foolish of me to offer that as a 'deliberate lie' so what a good thing I didn't, eh? Point-score away, however, if you wish to do so at my expense and if Kim et al are generous enough to tolerate it, but frankly I have more interesting things to think about. Still, next time I see you make any kind of blog-commenting error I will be on it like a rat up a drainpipe. Gee, I missed the whole thing. Yes, Nanuestalker, my bad, d’oh, etc. It was a careless mistake (made in haste, as Kim surmises), I was wrong, and it would indeed been indescribably foolish of me to offer that as a ‘deliberate lie’ so what a good thing I didn’t, eh?

Point-score away, however, if you wish to do so at my expense and if Kim et al are generous enough to tolerate it, but frankly I have more interesting things to think about. Still, next time I see you make any kind of blog-commenting error I will be on it like a rat up a drainpipe.

]]> By: Kim http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/09/05/sneers-and-ridicule-from-the-gop-for-the-very-idea-of-community-organising/#comment-214562 Kim Tue, 09 Sep 2008 09:11:18 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/09/05/sneers-and-ridicule-from-the-gop-for-the-very-idea-of-community-organising/#comment-214562 I deleted your comment for rudeness. And you're on notice to stop assuming the worst about other commenters and slagging them off needlessly. I'm sure Dr Cat knows that the kerfuffle over hanging chads in Florida happened in 2000, and isn't "deliberately lying". People make comments on these blogs quickly often. It would be charitable and generous to recognise that and not try to do the point scoring thing constantly. I deleted your comment for rudeness. And you’re on notice to stop assuming the worst about other commenters and slagging them off needlessly. I’m sure Dr Cat knows that the kerfuffle over hanging chads in Florida happened in 2000, and isn’t “deliberately lying”. People make comments on these blogs quickly often. It would be charitable and generous to recognise that and not try to do the point scoring thing constantly.

]]> By: Nanuestalker http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/09/05/sneers-and-ridicule-from-the-gop-for-the-very-idea-of-community-organising/#comment-214561 Nanuestalker Tue, 09 Sep 2008 09:04:12 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/09/05/sneers-and-ridicule-from-the-gop-for-the-very-idea-of-community-organising/#comment-214561 If your going to delete my comment at least correct Pav's foolishness or deliberate lie. If your going to delete my comment at least correct Pav’s foolishness or deliberate lie.

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