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		<title>By: Tony D</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/09/10/quickie-science/#comment-215537</link>
		<dc:creator>Tony D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 08:45:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lol it&#039;s all good, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.destructoid.com/crowbar-finally-shipped-to-prevent-humanity-s-destruction-103120.phtml&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;they sent Gordon his crowbar&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lol it&#8217;s all good, <a href="http://www.destructoid.com/crowbar-finally-shipped-to-prevent-humanity-s-destruction-103120.phtml" rel="nofollow">they sent Gordon his crowbar</a></p>
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		<title>By: slow afternoon at work in spring</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/09/10/quickie-science/#comment-215536</link>
		<dc:creator>slow afternoon at work in spring</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 05:27:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The lab now has 2 cameras on line .
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http://www.cyriak.co.uk/lhc/lhc-webcams.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The lab now has 2 cameras on line .<br />
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<a href="http://www.cyriak.co.uk/lhc/lhc-webcams.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.cyriak.co.uk/lhc/lhc-webcams.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Luke Weston</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/09/10/quickie-science/#comment-215535</link>
		<dc:creator>Luke Weston</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 04:51:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;There are things that could go very wrong with the Large Hadron Collider. Those concerned with it have been supremely arrogant and downright reckless ….&quot;

Oh come off it. What things that could go very wrong? Based on what science? What are the risks, and what is their basis in the actual science?


Andyc: Absolutely true, it&#039;s very tragic indeed, and journalists certainly have a lot to answer for.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;There are things that could go very wrong with the Large Hadron Collider. Those concerned with it have been supremely arrogant and downright reckless ….&#8221;</p>
<p>Oh come off it. What things that could go very wrong? Based on what science? What are the risks, and what is their basis in the actual science?</p>
<p>Andyc: Absolutely true, it&#8217;s very tragic indeed, and journalists certainly have a lot to answer for.</p>
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		<title>By: Andyc</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/09/10/quickie-science/#comment-215534</link>
		<dc:creator>Andyc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 01:58:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;Adrien&lt;/b&gt; @56: &lt;i&gt;&quot;Well the Giant Particle Smashing Thingy has claimed its first victim. &quot;&lt;/i&gt;

No. The huge beat-up of a piece of nonsense by ignorant, sensationalist journos killed her. And the lack of any equally loud public dissemination of the Voice of Informed Common Sense.

How very sad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Adrien</b> @56: <i>&#8220;Well the Giant Particle Smashing Thingy has claimed its first victim. &#8220;</i></p>
<p>No. The huge beat-up of a piece of nonsense by ignorant, sensationalist journos killed her. And the lack of any equally loud public dissemination of the Voice of Informed Common Sense.</p>
<p>How very sad.</p>
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		<title>By: Andos</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/09/10/quickie-science/#comment-215533</link>
		<dc:creator>Andos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 00:33:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cheers, Tim. No hard feelings.

The Superconducting Supercollider was doomed from the start; to keep down costs, they tried to squeeze it into a ring which was too small for the energies that they wanted to use. Then they couldn&#039;t afford the hugely powerful superconducting magnets to make it work in that smaller ring... cost blow-outs leading to the project never being completed. The LHC designers learnt from that.

For some info on international research into fusion energy:
The International Tokamak Experimental Reactor
http://www.iter.org/a/index_nav_1.htm
Scheduled to produce first plasma in 2016.

For some info on international research into gravity waves:
The Laser Interferometry Space Antenna
http://lisa.nasa.gov/index.html
Projected to launch in 2013.

Admitedly, that research is a few years away yet but I wouldn&#039;t call it infinitesimal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cheers, Tim. No hard feelings.</p>
<p>The Superconducting Supercollider was doomed from the start; to keep down costs, they tried to squeeze it into a ring which was too small for the energies that they wanted to use. Then they couldn&#8217;t afford the hugely powerful superconducting magnets to make it work in that smaller ring&#8230; cost blow-outs leading to the project never being completed. The LHC designers learnt from that.</p>
<p>For some info on international research into fusion energy:<br />
The International Tokamak Experimental Reactor<br />
<a href="http://www.iter.org/a/index_nav_1.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.iter.org/a/index_nav_1.htm</a><br />
Scheduled to produce first plasma in 2016.</p>
<p>For some info on international research into gravity waves:<br />
The Laser Interferometry Space Antenna<br />
<a href="http://lisa.nasa.gov/index.html" rel="nofollow">http://lisa.nasa.gov/index.html</a><br />
Projected to launch in 2013.</p>
<p>Admitedly, that research is a few years away yet but I wouldn&#8217;t call it infinitesimal.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Macknay</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/09/10/quickie-science/#comment-215532</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim Macknay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2008 10:42:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I remember the American version - think it was called the &quot;Superconducting Supercollider&quot;. You ask me, the problem was all in the name. If they&#039;d called it the &quot;Cosmic Ass-kicker&quot; or the &quot;Superconducting Commiebasher&quot; Congress probably would have funded it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I remember the American version &#8211; think it was called the &#8220;Superconducting Supercollider&#8221;. You ask me, the problem was all in the name. If they&#8217;d called it the &#8220;Cosmic Ass-kicker&#8221; or the &#8220;Superconducting Commiebasher&#8221; Congress probably would have funded it.</p>
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		<title>By: Adrien</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/09/10/quickie-science/#comment-215531</link>
		<dc:creator>Adrien</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2008 10:31:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I should add that despite my glib bollocks I&#039;m really thrilled about the LHC. We might be getting all sorts of bits of tasty stuff. It&#039;ll be for inner space what the Hubble is for Outer Space.
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I&#039;m spacey man. Far out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I should add that despite my glib bollocks I&#8217;m really thrilled about the LHC. We might be getting all sorts of bits of tasty stuff. It&#8217;ll be for inner space what the Hubble is for Outer Space.<br />
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I&#8217;m spacey man. Far out.</p>
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		<title>By: Adrien</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/09/10/quickie-science/#comment-215530</link>
		<dc:creator>Adrien</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2008 10:29:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well the Giant Particle Smashing Thingy has claimed its first &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1054434/Indian-girl-16-killed-fears-Big-Bang-experiment-lead-end-world.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;victim&lt;/a&gt;.  It&#039;s a sad little illustration of India. After all India&#039;s a major contributor to CERN. Stuck halfway between the Dark Ages and the post-Enlightenment. She swallowed pesticide. I&#039;d much rather get sucked into a black hole - much more painless. I think.
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Talking of being stuck halfway between the modern and dark ages does anybody remember that around 15 years back the US congress knocked back funding for a much bigger collider? A congressman asked if they&#039;d find God with it. The answer was that they might find the bosun. Guess that wasn&#039;t spectacular enough. It&#039;s funny how these people with &#039;faith&#039; need proof.
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Oh America you are stuck between the ages. And, unlike India, you&#039;re pointing backwards.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well the Giant Particle Smashing Thingy has claimed its first <a href="http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1054434/Indian-girl-16-killed-fears-Big-Bang-experiment-lead-end-world.html" rel="nofollow">victim</a>.  It&#8217;s a sad little illustration of India. After all India&#8217;s a major contributor to CERN. Stuck halfway between the Dark Ages and the post-Enlightenment. She swallowed pesticide. I&#8217;d much rather get sucked into a black hole &#8211; much more painless. I think.<br />
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Talking of being stuck halfway between the modern and dark ages does anybody remember that around 15 years back the US congress knocked back funding for a much bigger collider? A congressman asked if they&#8217;d find God with it. The answer was that they might find the bosun. Guess that wasn&#8217;t spectacular enough. It&#8217;s funny how these people with &#8216;faith&#8217; need proof.<br />
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Oh America you are stuck between the ages. And, unlike India, you&#8217;re pointing backwards.</p>
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		<title>By: Roger Jones</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/09/10/quickie-science/#comment-215529</link>
		<dc:creator>Roger Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2008 10:21:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marlon - you own this thread!

Only when I larfed</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marlon &#8211; you own this thread!</p>
<p>Only when I larfed</p>
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		<title>By: Marlon</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/09/10/quickie-science/#comment-215528</link>
		<dc:creator>Marlon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2008 07:10:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Definition of a &quot;Quickie&quot; It wont hurt did it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Definition of a &#8220;Quickie&#8221; It wont hurt did it?</p>
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