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		<title>By: Helen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Helen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 00:24:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Adrien, you have a double misunderstanding there.
(1) that Obama meant that to be SP. I think we&#039;ve teased out that
-it was actually about the Republican policies per se
-But it was stupid of Obama to say it because he should have known that the GOP would have spun it as being about SP.
(2) That &quot;feminists&quot; are all fine and dandy about such remarks. If you&#039;d actually read some US feminist blogs such as Feministe and Shakesville you&#039;d see that is very far from the case.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Adrien, you have a double misunderstanding there.<br />
(1) that Obama meant that to be SP. I think we&#8217;ve teased out that<br />
-it was actually about the Republican policies per se<br />
-But it was stupid of Obama to say it because he should have known that the GOP would have spun it as being about SP.<br />
(2) That &#8220;feminists&#8221; are all fine and dandy about such remarks. If you&#8217;d actually read some US feminist blogs such as Feministe and Shakesville you&#8217;d see that is very far from the case.</p>
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		<title>By: Brendon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brendon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2008 22:47:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Kim:&lt;/strong&gt; &lt;em&gt;&quot;I hate to say it at this point, folks, but either John Edwards or Hillary Clinton could have won this election. It’s looking increasingly like Barack Obama can’t. But I’ll reiterate what I’ve been saying all along. Despite his “soaring rhetoric” etc. etc. etc. he’s the most right wing donkey in this year’s race. If it’s all going to be about identity politics, he loses, and the Democrats lose. If he can’t reinvent himself - asap - as someone focused on the issues, get ready for President McCain.&quot;&lt;/em&gt;


First up, Hilary and John couldn&#039;t beat Obama. So they could not have won this election. Secondly, you mention the Nixon/McGovern election. Excellent analogy. Obama is McGovern, and Clinton is Hubert Humphrey.


Hilary had fully 2 months to concede prior to when she actually did. Although she made up ground she was in an impossible position for quite some time. She refused to stop. That became a story in itself. She should have been condemned for that. The winning candidate, Obama, came out of the Democratic preselection battered and bruised and financially weakened. Just like McGovern was. And many blame Humphrey for that, and the fact that the Democrats never really got behind McGovern because the fight between Humphrey and McGovern was so intense that it divided the party.


Look at Palin. She is getting the disaffected HRC base.


Hilary would have lost because John McCain would have picked Powell as his VP.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Kim:</strong> <em>&#8220;I hate to say it at this point, folks, but either John Edwards or Hillary Clinton could have won this election. It’s looking increasingly like Barack Obama can’t. But I’ll reiterate what I’ve been saying all along. Despite his “soaring rhetoric” etc. etc. etc. he’s the most right wing donkey in this year’s race. If it’s all going to be about identity politics, he loses, and the Democrats lose. If he can’t reinvent himself &#8211; asap &#8211; as someone focused on the issues, get ready for President McCain.&#8221;</em></p>
<p>First up, Hilary and John couldn&#8217;t beat Obama. So they could not have won this election. Secondly, you mention the Nixon/McGovern election. Excellent analogy. Obama is McGovern, and Clinton is Hubert Humphrey.</p>
<p>Hilary had fully 2 months to concede prior to when she actually did. Although she made up ground she was in an impossible position for quite some time. She refused to stop. That became a story in itself. She should have been condemned for that. The winning candidate, Obama, came out of the Democratic preselection battered and bruised and financially weakened. Just like McGovern was. And many blame Humphrey for that, and the fact that the Democrats never really got behind McGovern because the fight between Humphrey and McGovern was so intense that it divided the party.</p>
<p>Look at Palin. She is getting the disaffected HRC base.</p>
<p>Hilary would have lost because John McCain would have picked Powell as his VP.</p>
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		<title>By: Adrien</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adrien</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2008 09:05:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And how about the lipstick on a pig riff? I kinda think that&#039;s a little below the belt.
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I&#039;m curious, considering the tolerance of so many feminists for Bill Clinton&#039;s, um, lapses, where the bar is? After all let&#039;s face it if someone in the Liberal Party made that lipstick on a pig crack in such a way that it would inevitably read as having a go at Julia Gillard you&#039;d be spewing - &lt;i&gt;spewing&lt;/i&gt;!!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And how about the lipstick on a pig riff? I kinda think that&#8217;s a little below the belt.<br />
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I&#8217;m curious, considering the tolerance of so many feminists for Bill Clinton&#8217;s, um, lapses, where the bar is? After all let&#8217;s face it if someone in the Liberal Party made that lipstick on a pig crack in such a way that it would inevitably read as having a go at Julia Gillard you&#8217;d be spewing &#8211; <i>spewing</i>!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Nick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2008 08:31:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&#039;http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/10/bill-oreilly-defends-obam_n_125548.html&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Bill O’Reilly&lt;/a&gt;

Darn Word apostrophes!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href='http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/10/bill-oreilly-defends-obam_n_125548.html' rel="nofollow">Bill O’Reilly</a></p>
<p>Darn Word apostrophes!</p>
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		<title>By: Nick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2008 08:29:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Check out this damage control(?) by &lt;a href=&quot;//www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/10/bill-oreilly-defends-obam_n_125548.html’&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Bill O’Reilly&lt;/a&gt; over the ‘pig comment’.  Does it seem at all possible team Obama was being canny in turn?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Check out this damage control(?) by <a href="//www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/10/bill-oreilly-defends-obam_n_125548.html’" rel="nofollow">Bill O’Reilly</a> over the ‘pig comment’.  Does it seem at all possible team Obama was being canny in turn?</p>
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		<title>By: silkworm</title>
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		<dc:creator>silkworm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2008 07:33:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Sarah has transformed SATP into a SNAG.
With gods help.&quot;

Or a concern troll.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Sarah has transformed SATP into a SNAG.<br />
With gods help.&#8221;</p>
<p>Or a concern troll.</p>
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		<title>By: steve at the pub</title>
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		<dc:creator>steve at the pub</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2008 06:39:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Always was joe2, always was, I don&#039;t play Rugby League, don&#039;t drink beer, most of my friends are educated &amp; white, I use moisturiser, clip my nails &amp; have never knocked out my mother, my wife, or any of my nieces.

Which puts me ahead of just about everybody in my home town.  SNAG. That&#039;s me!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Always was joe2, always was, I don&#8217;t play Rugby League, don&#8217;t drink beer, most of my friends are educated &amp; white, I use moisturiser, clip my nails &amp; have never knocked out my mother, my wife, or any of my nieces.</p>
<p>Which puts me ahead of just about everybody in my home town.  SNAG. That&#8217;s me!</p>
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		<title>By: joe2</title>
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		<dc:creator>joe2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2008 05:17:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sarah has transformed SATP into a SNAG.
With gods help.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sarah has transformed SATP into a SNAG.<br />
With gods help.</p>
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		<title>By: steve at the pub</title>
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		<dc:creator>steve at the pub</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2008 05:12:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tigtog, the piggy lipstick has been, and could continue to have been, used until the cows come home, and used on or about anybody or anything without anybody caring.

Until Sarah Palin was preselected.

And became the target of a barrage of (largely unfounded) personal slurs, smears and innuendo.

Hillary Clinton supporters may remember John McCain saying such, I agree.  Obama saying it was a classic faux pax, with no upside for him, and plenty of downside.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tigtog, the piggy lipstick has been, and could continue to have been, used until the cows come home, and used on or about anybody or anything without anybody caring.</p>
<p>Until Sarah Palin was preselected.</p>
<p>And became the target of a barrage of (largely unfounded) personal slurs, smears and innuendo.</p>
<p>Hillary Clinton supporters may remember John McCain saying such, I agree.  Obama saying it was a classic faux pax, with no upside for him, and plenty of downside.</p>
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		<title>By: Katz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Katz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2008 04:49:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Obama&#039;s just lost the accessorised porcine vote.

He may as well resign now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obama&#8217;s just lost the accessorised porcine vote.</p>
<p>He may as well resign now.</p>
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