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	<title>Comments on: Winners and losers in Turnbull&#8217;s shadow cabinet</title>
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		<title>By: Graham Bell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Graham Bell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 19:53:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mark [43]:

You&#039;ve hit on a chronic and very serious defect in both sides of government in Australia: they&#039;re overstuffed with lawyers.

Of course it is good to have accomplished lawyers contribute their experience to the making of legislation .... but do we need so many lawyers in our parliaments  that other groups and classes are are d*mned-near excluded and we end up with homogeneous parliaments that come up with homogenous laws? 

The last things we need, if we are to survive this Depression and its inevitable aftermath, are homogenous parliaments chock-a-block full of those afflicted with group-think.

Turnbull&#039;s uninspired shadow ministry line-up shows it will just be more of the same.   Hardly what would inspire our confidence in Turnbull as an alternative Prime Minister in this time of perilous crises.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark [43]:</p>
<p>You&#8217;ve hit on a chronic and very serious defect in both sides of government in Australia: they&#8217;re overstuffed with lawyers.</p>
<p>Of course it is good to have accomplished lawyers contribute their experience to the making of legislation &#8230;. but do we need so many lawyers in our parliaments  that other groups and classes are are d*mned-near excluded and we end up with homogeneous parliaments that come up with homogenous laws? </p>
<p>The last things we need, if we are to survive this Depression and its inevitable aftermath, are homogenous parliaments chock-a-block full of those afflicted with group-think.</p>
<p>Turnbull&#8217;s uninspired shadow ministry line-up shows it will just be more of the same.   Hardly what would inspire our confidence in Turnbull as an alternative Prime Minister in this time of perilous crises.</p>
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		<title>By: Graham Bell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Graham Bell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 11:44:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Danny [39]:

So that&#039;s what the politicians, senior public servants and **** Court judges get up to when they know we&#039;re not looking.  I&#039;ve always wondered.  :-)

No. I was thinking of the real decision-makers, the ones who change our lives and our livlihood over a bowl of spicy gongbaojiding and a plate of the finest jiaozi ever made.

Everyone:

I would like to remind you that both Costello and Nelson are still in this Parliament.   As the saying goes &quot;The Devil finds work for idle hands&quot;.

Failing to give top priority to attending skilfully and appropriately to both men - and especially to both their aspirations and their potential - will eventually finish off Turnbull, not today or tomorrow but perhaps even before the Liberal Party itself has collapsed in a heap.  It&#039;s too late now for him to do anything about his grave omission.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Danny [39]:</p>
<p>So that&#8217;s what the politicians, senior public servants and **** Court judges get up to when they know we&#8217;re not looking.  I&#8217;ve always wondered.  <img src='http://larvatusprodeo.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>No. I was thinking of the real decision-makers, the ones who change our lives and our livlihood over a bowl of spicy gongbaojiding and a plate of the finest jiaozi ever made.</p>
<p>Everyone:</p>
<p>I would like to remind you that both Costello and Nelson are still in this Parliament.   As the saying goes &#8220;The Devil finds work for idle hands&#8221;.</p>
<p>Failing to give top priority to attending skilfully and appropriately to both men &#8211; and especially to both their aspirations and their potential &#8211; will eventually finish off Turnbull, not today or tomorrow but perhaps even before the Liberal Party itself has collapsed in a heap.  It&#8217;s too late now for him to do anything about his grave omission.</p>
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		<title>By: Adrien</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adrien</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 10:32:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Yeah, Adrien, but Abbott was one of Turnbull’s biggest boosters - or Nelson’s biggest underminers if you want to put it that way.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Methinks he would be leader sometime. He suffers from the delusion that Howard&#039;s one time popularity had something to do with his reactionary sexism when all the time it was his reactionary racism that was the key. Anyway such a fellow&#039;s akin to badly secured artillery equipment. Best to let him roll around down in the pits with the rest of the plebs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Yeah, Adrien, but Abbott was one of Turnbull’s biggest boosters &#8211; or Nelson’s biggest underminers if you want to put it that way.</p></blockquote>
<p>Methinks he would be leader sometime. He suffers from the delusion that Howard&#8217;s one time popularity had something to do with his reactionary sexism when all the time it was his reactionary racism that was the key. Anyway such a fellow&#8217;s akin to badly secured artillery equipment. Best to let him roll around down in the pits with the rest of the plebs.</p>
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		<title>By: Adrien</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adrien</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 09:21:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lyn -

&lt;blockquote&gt;Gold Coast dude/arts.
Arts/Gold Coast dude.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Go and have another latte. You&#039;re so out of touch with the salted Earth of this country. The Gold Coast is one big work of Art. It&#039;s a 3D version of &lt;i&gt;The Jetsons&lt;/i&gt;.  It&#039;s of a place a 1000 kilometres closer to equator than they are called: Witeloafer City. 
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Drop acid sometime and go for a walk &#039;round Surfers: hilarious!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lyn -</p>
<blockquote><p>Gold Coast dude/arts.<br />
Arts/Gold Coast dude.</p></blockquote>
<p>Go and have another latte. You&#8217;re so out of touch with the salted Earth of this country. The Gold Coast is one big work of Art. It&#8217;s a 3D version of <i>The Jetsons</i>.  It&#8217;s of a place a 1000 kilometres closer to equator than they are called: Witeloafer City.<br />
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Drop acid sometime and go for a walk &#8217;round Surfers: hilarious!</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 03:30:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Bishop, Hockey, Dutton, Pyne, Robb, Keenan, Ciobo, Ronaldson. All these persons have been successful in their lives and they know what management is about&lt;/blockquote&gt;

With the exception of Dutton (cop) and Robb (economist/interest group boss), all the rest have made careers as political hacks with the obligatory stint as a lawyer, haven&#039;t they? I don&#039;t know about the last three. They&#039;re rather obscure. Hiding their lights under a bushel no doubt.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Bishop, Hockey, Dutton, Pyne, Robb, Keenan, Ciobo, Ronaldson. All these persons have been successful in their lives and they know what management is about</p></blockquote>
<p>With the exception of Dutton (cop) and Robb (economist/interest group boss), all the rest have made careers as political hacks with the obligatory stint as a lawyer, haven&#8217;t they? I don&#8217;t know about the last three. They&#8217;re rather obscure. Hiding their lights under a bushel no doubt.</p>
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		<title>By: adrian</title>
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		<dc:creator>adrian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 02:45:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Give me a break.&quot;

What did you have in mind, if you&#039;ll pardon the expression ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Give me a break.&#8221;</p>
<p>What did you have in mind, if you&#8217;ll pardon the expression ?</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Burns</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul Burns</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 02:00:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is indeed ebormous talent on the Opposition front-bench - Like a shadow treasurer who doesn&#039;t know the official interest rate. Absolutely enormous talent!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is indeed ebormous talent on the Opposition front-bench &#8211; Like a shadow treasurer who doesn&#8217;t know the official interest rate. Absolutely enormous talent!</p>
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		<title>By: jamo</title>
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		<dc:creator>jamo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 01:52:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why cant anyone give credit where it is due. There is enormous talent on the front bench. Bishop, Hockey, Dutton, Pyne, Robb, Keenan, Ciobo, Ronaldson. All these persons have been successful in their lives and they know what management is about. And of course the ALP is full of talent isnt it. Thats why they&#039;ve got Albanese, Carr and Conroy as senior ministers. They are useless and what makes it even more ridiculous is you have got someone with a doctarate in economics (Craig Emerson) who can only make it into the outer ministry. Give me a break.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why cant anyone give credit where it is due. There is enormous talent on the front bench. Bishop, Hockey, Dutton, Pyne, Robb, Keenan, Ciobo, Ronaldson. All these persons have been successful in their lives and they know what management is about. And of course the ALP is full of talent isnt it. Thats why they&#8217;ve got Albanese, Carr and Conroy as senior ministers. They are useless and what makes it even more ridiculous is you have got someone with a doctarate in economics (Craig Emerson) who can only make it into the outer ministry. Give me a break.</p>
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		<title>By: danny</title>
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		<dc:creator>danny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2008 00:30:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Graham: &quot;the chair-shuffling ... may be a petty distraction&quot;...
I&#039;ve just always assumed that somewhere in Canberra is a big, secret, non-descript, windowless building exactly like Scrooge McDuck&#039;s Money Bin, full of gold and silver and rubies and all manner of treasure, and that is the actuality of the superannuation funds for our parlimentarians and the senior service level bureaucrats, and every day after they&#039;ve put in another hard slog of pretending, they meet up to frolic in it, just like in the cartoon. 
All else is nod-is-good-as-winking.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Graham: &#8220;the chair-shuffling &#8230; may be a petty distraction&#8221;&#8230;<br />
I&#8217;ve just always assumed that somewhere in Canberra is a big, secret, non-descript, windowless building exactly like Scrooge McDuck&#8217;s Money Bin, full of gold and silver and rubies and all manner of treasure, and that is the actuality of the superannuation funds for our parlimentarians and the senior service level bureaucrats, and every day after they&#8217;ve put in another hard slog of pretending, they meet up to frolic in it, just like in the cartoon.<br />
All else is nod-is-good-as-winking.</p>
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		<title>By: FDB</title>
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		<dc:creator>FDB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 23:58:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry for not telegraphing it better, but my #16 was a gag. They all look like losers to me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry for not telegraphing it better, but my #16 was a gag. They all look like losers to me.</p>
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		<title>By: Graham Bell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Graham Bell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 22:02:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Danny [33]:

Hmmmm.  So the chair-shuffling in the House of Rubber Stamps may be a petty distraction from the main power game then?

Mark:

There are a few talented people in the new Shadow Ministry but as for the rest, well ....

If, as I&#039;ve been predicting for ages, the Liberal Party follows the United Australia Party into oblivion, sooner rather than later,  .... does that mean it will be the National Party that becomes the actual Opposition and forms the Shadow Ministry from its own members and from the herd of former Liberals on the cross-benches?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Danny [33]:</p>
<p>Hmmmm.  So the chair-shuffling in the House of Rubber Stamps may be a petty distraction from the main power game then?</p>
<p>Mark:</p>
<p>There are a few talented people in the new Shadow Ministry but as for the rest, well &#8230;.</p>
<p>If, as I&#8217;ve been predicting for ages, the Liberal Party follows the United Australia Party into oblivion, sooner rather than later,  &#8230;. does that mean it will be the National Party that becomes the actual Opposition and forms the Shadow Ministry from its own members and from the herd of former Liberals on the cross-benches?</p>
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		<title>By: Benedictus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Benedictus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 16:57:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe it would have been more appropriate for our Sophie to  have been appointed Shadow Minister for Exorcism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe it would have been more appropriate for our Sophie to  have been appointed Shadow Minister for Exorcism.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew E</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew E</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 13:20:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pairing Mirabella and Pyne in the same portfolio made me laugh. Turnbull and Coonan both lawyered for Kerry Packer, they are old mates. Nicola Roxon will make short work of Dutton. &lt;a href=&quot;http://andrewelder.blogspot.com/2008/09/strutting-hamlet-tony-abbott-claims.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;I&#039;ve commented elsewhere on Abbott&lt;/a&gt;, and Tony Smith is a Costello Mini-Me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pairing Mirabella and Pyne in the same portfolio made me laugh. Turnbull and Coonan both lawyered for Kerry Packer, they are old mates. Nicola Roxon will make short work of Dutton. <a href="http://andrewelder.blogspot.com/2008/09/strutting-hamlet-tony-abbott-claims.html" rel="nofollow">I&#8217;ve commented elsewhere on Abbott</a>, and Tony Smith is a Costello Mini-Me.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 12:58:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ambi, it&#039;s old news. The said branch stacking took place in 2004. It was certainly widely reported at the time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ambi, it&#8217;s old news. The said branch stacking took place in 2004. It was certainly widely reported at the time.</p>
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		<title>By: danny</title>
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		<dc:creator>danny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 12:34:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I gotta admit, the first thing I thought when I saw the list was out was &quot;Will they have had to scrape so low as to to give Michael Johnson a gig?&quot;, to try and keep secure the sacred seat of Ryan. 
Flake maybe, but he just may be &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.australia-chinabusinessforum.com/about_acda.asp&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;in contact with more  chinese money &lt;/a&gt;than Kev, or maybe even Therese&#039;s Rein Foundation, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,23558182-2703,00.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;whose chief executive was reported (mid April) as entering into a $1 billion joint venture in China..buying up commercial property portfolios and then listing them on the Australian stock exchange...&lt;/a&gt; ... (That&#039;s guanxi for ya). 

Therese quietly &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.thewest.com.au/aapstory.aspx?StoryName=514477&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;shut down the foundation in May&lt;/a&gt;, concerned about potential conflicts of interest with her husband&#039;s political career. I guess the foundation&#039;s CEO would have been a bit busy with his new billion dollar day job to concentrate on the philanthropy gig, so it&#039;s a good thing that Therese then shut it down.
My point: Michael Johnson, (and Therese Rein BTW), may very well be Malcolm&#039;s type of people. That forum of Michael&#039;s had China&#039;s richest man on the speakers list, and Clive Palmer, and you&#039;ll find Michael Johnson is the only person from Australia invited to the Fortune Global Forum ( as in Fortune 500) they hold every year in china, so maybe Michael Johnson doesn&#039;t care too much about crappy domestic issues, and doesn&#039;t see himself as a loser for not getting a portfolio. Malcolm will understand, and give him time off.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I gotta admit, the first thing I thought when I saw the list was out was &#8220;Will they have had to scrape so low as to to give Michael Johnson a gig?&#8221;, to try and keep secure the sacred seat of Ryan.<br />
Flake maybe, but he just may be <a href="http://www.australia-chinabusinessforum.com/about_acda.asp" rel="nofollow">in contact with more  chinese money </a>than Kev, or maybe even Therese&#8217;s Rein Foundation, <a href="http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,23558182-2703,00.html" rel="nofollow">whose chief executive was reported (mid April) as entering into a $1 billion joint venture in China..buying up commercial property portfolios and then listing them on the Australian stock exchange&#8230;</a> &#8230; (That&#8217;s guanxi for ya). </p>
<p>Therese quietly <a href="http://www.thewest.com.au/aapstory.aspx?StoryName=514477" rel="nofollow">shut down the foundation in May</a>, concerned about potential conflicts of interest with her husband&#8217;s political career. I guess the foundation&#8217;s CEO would have been a bit busy with his new billion dollar day job to concentrate on the philanthropy gig, so it&#8217;s a good thing that Therese then shut it down.<br />
My point: Michael Johnson, (and Therese Rein BTW), may very well be Malcolm&#8217;s type of people. That forum of Michael&#8217;s had China&#8217;s richest man on the speakers list, and Clive Palmer, and you&#8217;ll find Michael Johnson is the only person from Australia invited to the Fortune Global Forum ( as in Fortune 500) they hold every year in china, so maybe Michael Johnson doesn&#8217;t care too much about crappy domestic issues, and doesn&#8217;t see himself as a loser for not getting a portfolio. Malcolm will understand, and give him time off.</p>
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		<title>By: Graham Bell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Graham Bell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 12:15:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mark:

Well, there you go ....

Given this line-up of talent, Nelson was very wise to deline a seat on the front bench.

Elsewhere, I mischeviously suggested that Rudd might offer Nelson a ministry [highly unlikely but not impossible] .... now that the shadow ministry has been announced, has the remote likelihood of that come an inch or two closer?

Shadow ministry?  Why do I keep thinking of Akira Kurosawa&#039;s epic film &quot;Kagemusha&quot; [&quot;Shadow Warrior&quot;]?   They have nothing at all in common, do they?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark:</p>
<p>Well, there you go &#8230;.</p>
<p>Given this line-up of talent, Nelson was very wise to deline a seat on the front bench.</p>
<p>Elsewhere, I mischeviously suggested that Rudd might offer Nelson a ministry [highly unlikely but not impossible] &#8230;. now that the shadow ministry has been announced, has the remote likelihood of that come an inch or two closer?</p>
<p>Shadow ministry?  Why do I keep thinking of Akira Kurosawa&#8217;s epic film &#8220;Kagemusha&#8221; ["Shadow Warrior"]?   They have nothing at all in common, do they?</p>
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		<title>By: Ambigulous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ambigulous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 11:44:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>?? resident in Singapore? How can this be?? Do Party rules allow cross-national or multinational forays of such fiendish cunning??? Ah, so &quot;ethnic branch-stacking&quot; isn&#039;t confined to the ALP? Perhaps the OO might investigate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>?? resident in Singapore? How can this be?? Do Party rules allow cross-national or multinational forays of such fiendish cunning??? Ah, so &#8220;ethnic branch-stacking&#8221; isn&#8217;t confined to the ALP? Perhaps the OO might investigate.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 11:23:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Johnson&#039;s a flake, Graham. Not that there aren&#039;t flakes on the front bench... But perhaps you&#039;re alluding to the large number of branch members who voted for him in his preselection who were resident in Singapore?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Johnson&#8217;s a flake, Graham. Not that there aren&#8217;t flakes on the front bench&#8230; But perhaps you&#8217;re alluding to the large number of branch members who voted for him in his preselection who were resident in Singapore?</p>
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		<title>By: Graham Bell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Graham Bell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 11:16:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mark and All:

Noticed that Michael Johnson, the MHR for Ryan [in the leafy suburbs on the western side of Brisbane], didn&#039;t score a guernsey as Shadow Parliamentary Secretary for Immigration.   Next time perhaps?</description>
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<p>Noticed that Michael Johnson, the MHR for Ryan [in the leafy suburbs on the western side of Brisbane], didn&#8217;t score a guernsey as Shadow Parliamentary Secretary for Immigration.   Next time perhaps?</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 10:53:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, Adrien, but Abbott was one of Turnbull&#039;s biggest boosters - or Nelson&#039;s biggest underminers if you want to put it that way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, Adrien, but Abbott was one of Turnbull&#8217;s biggest boosters &#8211; or Nelson&#8217;s biggest underminers if you want to put it that way.</p>
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