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16 responses to “David Crystal: Txtng: The Gr8 Db8”

  1. Peter Hollo

    Awesome thing I only found out recently:
    David Crystal has a blog!

    [Link]

  2. Kim

    Thanks Peter!

  3. tigtog

    Children could not be good at texting if they had not already developed considerable literacy awareness.

    Exactly. It’s all wordplay, and those who are best at playing with words tend to have a higher, not a lower, understanding of context in communication generally i.e. they simply not going to pepper a job application or a letter to a customer with l33t speak (as we used to call it on oldsk00l internet before SMS texting was ever invented).

  4. danny

    There’s another process, beyond initialising, logogramming, and shortening, that I’ve noticed trying to decode messages from my young one. She says it doesn’t matter when they use the wrong letter, the reader knows what key was used to punch it in, and therefore what the right letter probably was e.g. pmw = soz = sorry.

    Mind you, she may very well be just winding me up, anyone else noticed a “surely using the right phone key is enough” phenomenon?

    I’m thinking only those whose phone’s have full qwerty keyboards will have any idea of olde boomer english spelling.

    Maybe google will come to the rescue and provide a babelfish service where the results of the txt rules can be translated from “pmw” to “sorry”.

  5. Evan

    This isn’t a bad thing. I reckon texting is a form of evolution of the language.

    After all, English is not static, but changes over time with usage. If this were not the case, we’d all be chatting in the Middle English of Jeff Chaucer right now. And think what a bugger that would be.

    New words and constructs sometimes find wider acceptance and pretty soon, they’re in general usage. Prior to the beat generation, for example, “cool” related only to temperature. Prior to the present texting generation “LOL” meant, well, nothing. Perhaps it still does (LOL).

    Texters are shortening forms, running words and concepts together to form a sort of digitalised short-hand. It might be a temporary flash in the pan, but it might also lead to new words and forms being incorporated into the language.

    Some may call it lazy, but that’s how language develops.

  6. Pavlov's Cat

    anyone else noticed a “surely using the right phone key is enough” phenomenon?

    Yes. It’s closey related to the “But you understood what I meant and that’s all that matters” phenomenon.

    And we h8s it, Precious. We h8s it with the in10sity of 1000 suns.

  7. Francis Xavier Holden

    I can’t see too much actually new to get excited about in txtng.

    Yours ect
    SWALK – HOLLAND

  8. Colin Campbell

    I find texting annoying and slow, a bit like skiing when you first get started. I much prefer to talk to somebody.

  9. barvasfiend

    Yes, if only we could develop some kind of a phone system with more interpretive messaging, so it was almost like talking.

    People seem to get very hot under the collar about text-language, and try to justify their feelings with rational arguments about grammar and spelling.

    I don’t. I hate txt speak because it’s just bloody annoying.

  10. FDB

    The best revenge is living gramatically.

  11. Pavlov's Cat

    I don’t like it because the only thing I can read easily after decades of habit is properly written English, but I am deeply enamoured of texting as a form of communication. As with email, it combines instantaneousness with courtesy. You can let people know you’re thinking of them without forcing them to talk to you, when they may be very busy or depressed or asleep or concentrating on work or whatever.

  12. Mark

    I was interested in the findings that a lot of texters write in standard English in texts. I tend to, for arcane reasons having to with a friend of mine’s sometime love interest making assumptions about prospective dates based on text speak.

    Better safe than sorry!

    Evan @ 5 – lol was around a lot earlier than texts were. It’s more a product of usenet and chat room speak historically!

  13. FDB

    Mark and PC – I agree one million percent.

    Actually I’m prone to oddball shortenings and portmanteaux and plural-play, and was prior to any text or LOLspeak exposure. It kinda runs in the family. But if anyone else does it, particularly someone younger than me, and particularly particularly if it’s ‘cool’, I don’t like it. By cool I mean known by most people, as opposed to requiring deciphering by everyone but my closest friends.

    I can see, but have no interest in discussing, the many logical problems with my position.

  14. Fiasco da Gama

    TO: LPHQ
    FROM: RADM DAGAMA
    SUBJ: TEXTING
    STATUS: UNCLASSIFIED

    TEXTING IS NOT NEW AS CLAIMED STOP
    ITS ENGLISH MEDIATED TECHNOLOGYWISE STOP
    SMS RETAINS SUPERIOR MARKET VALUE STOP
    CHARACTER LIMITS BEAT WORDPRICE STOP
    HEY KIDS GET OFF MY LAWN STOP

  15. Mark

    I can see, but have no interest in discussing, the many logical problems with my position.

    Heh!

    That’s the way to stoush, FDB! ;)

  16. Pavlov's Cat

    I can see, but have no interest in discussing, the many logical problems with my position.

    Heh is right. I wonder how long it would take* to get that tattooed on my forehead.

    Whenever I’m tempted to textspeak, I think of something I once read about it: ‘If people can’t be bothered to write out what they want to say, I don’t see how they can expect me to be bothered reading it.’

    And predictive text is even worse.

    *and how much it would hurt, ow

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