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	<title>Comments on: Productivity Commission interim report on paid parental leave</title>
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		<title>By: dj</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/09/29/productivity-commission-interim-report-on-paid-parental-leave/#comment-218902</link>
		<dc:creator>dj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 May 2009 06:34:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>almost enough to make me want to change my moniker</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>almost enough to make me want to change my moniker</p>
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		<title>By: Ambigulous</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/09/29/productivity-commission-interim-report-on-paid-parental-leave/#comment-218901</link>
		<dc:creator>Ambigulous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2009 11:21:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>not quite public enough - here is but bloggery</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>not quite public enough &#8211; here is but bloggery</p>
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		<title>By: thewetmale</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/09/29/productivity-commission-interim-report-on-paid-parental-leave/#comment-218900</link>
		<dc:creator>thewetmale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 May 2009 12:08:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well said mr DJ, you truly are a public intellectual, perhaps second only to Robert Manne. BTW, you do realise that the &#039;maternative&#039; will be paid by the government, and if they dump the baby bonus, will probably help the budget bottom line. No mortgage is going out the door because working women can have babies a little easier. And that 8% unemployment number, have you heard of the GFC?

Thanks for the laughs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well said mr DJ, you truly are a public intellectual, perhaps second only to Robert Manne. BTW, you do realise that the &#8216;maternative&#8217; will be paid by the government, and if they dump the baby bonus, will probably help the budget bottom line. No mortgage is going out the door because working women can have babies a little easier. And that 8% unemployment number, have you heard of the GFC?</p>
<p>Thanks for the laughs.</p>
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		<title>By: brissy dj</title>
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		<dc:creator>brissy dj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 May 2009 09:39:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Helen, ask the small business owner, you paying tax when the small business owner doesnt have the staff member means they loose money and then go out of business and then have to fire people causing unemployment and then you dont get anything. Small business gives most to the economy and that is where they should be focused.
Rudd takes it away and then takes more. Small business gives jobs not Labor. Help small business. The more people that think the government is actually helping us is causing more and more pain. They are prodicting 8% unemployment. Penalise the people with health insurance and hospitals are struggling. They pay for most of it. God open your eyes , if small business is screaming for help how are they going to help the unemployed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Helen, ask the small business owner, you paying tax when the small business owner doesnt have the staff member means they loose money and then go out of business and then have to fire people causing unemployment and then you dont get anything. Small business gives most to the economy and that is where they should be focused.<br />
Rudd takes it away and then takes more. Small business gives jobs not Labor. Help small business. The more people that think the government is actually helping us is causing more and more pain. They are prodicting 8% unemployment. Penalise the people with health insurance and hospitals are struggling. They pay for most of it. God open your eyes , if small business is screaming for help how are they going to help the unemployed.</p>
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		<title>By: Helen</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/09/29/productivity-commission-interim-report-on-paid-parental-leave/#comment-218898</link>
		<dc:creator>Helen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 May 2009 09:00:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hilarious!
&quot;Maternative leave&quot;: I think that&#039;s going to catch on.
&quot;pay the grasshoppers and not the squirrels&quot;: Um, dude, I think you are thinking of the ant and the grasshopper, not the squirrel and the grasshopper.
You are also imagining that women who take parental leave are &quot;grasshoppers&quot;, that is, thoughtless consumers. In fact, most of us want parental leave so that we can continue to work, pay tax and accumulate nuts, er, superannuation for our old age.

I want those fighting a rearguard action against Teh Evil Greedy Wimmin and their Maternity leave to justify all the Federal spending on toys for boys, sport and junkets.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hilarious!<br />
&#8220;Maternative leave&#8221;: I think that&#8217;s going to catch on.<br />
&#8220;pay the grasshoppers and not the squirrels&#8221;: Um, dude, I think you are thinking of the ant and the grasshopper, not the squirrel and the grasshopper.<br />
You are also imagining that women who take parental leave are &#8220;grasshoppers&#8221;, that is, thoughtless consumers. In fact, most of us want parental leave so that we can continue to work, pay tax and accumulate nuts, er, superannuation for our old age.</p>
<p>I want those fighting a rearguard action against Teh Evil Greedy Wimmin and their Maternity leave to justify all the Federal spending on toys for boys, sport and junkets.</p>
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		<title>By: brissy dj</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/09/29/productivity-commission-interim-report-on-paid-parental-leave/#comment-218897</link>
		<dc:creator>brissy dj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 May 2009 08:16:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i think no more women will be hired for our jobs as its not viable for small business anymore. Rudd can you screw up life for business owners anymore. People you can complain about this attitide buts its small business owners mortgage or some persons maternative leave. Rudd has taken away all possible reasons for small business owners. talk about robin hood Rudd! pay the grasshoppers and not the squirrels. Rudd who voted for him. CMon how many of you would do it again. Give with one hand and take with the other but multiple times of what he gave</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i think no more women will be hired for our jobs as its not viable for small business anymore. Rudd can you screw up life for business owners anymore. People you can complain about this attitide buts its small business owners mortgage or some persons maternative leave. Rudd has taken away all possible reasons for small business owners. talk about robin hood Rudd! pay the grasshoppers and not the squirrels. Rudd who voted for him. CMon how many of you would do it again. Give with one hand and take with the other but multiple times of what he gave</p>
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		<title>By: Chris (a different one)</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/09/29/productivity-commission-interim-report-on-paid-parental-leave/#comment-218896</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris (a different one)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 06:14:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wilful @ 17 - they are also recommend not means testing the maternity payment (the renamed baby bonus) for mothers without a job, probably because the parental leave is not to means tested.

As Mark and Mindy have mentioned some employers offer paid maternity leave as a means of retaining staff and attracting them in the first place, so I think some employers would even give the government payment to employees in addition to what they already pay (after all its not costing them anything more). So effectively it could end up being an 11k baby bonus for those who already have paid parental leave. For others its just going to be a govt subsidy for something they already do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wilful @ 17 &#8211; they are also recommend not means testing the maternity payment (the renamed baby bonus) for mothers without a job, probably because the parental leave is not to means tested.</p>
<p>As Mark and Mindy have mentioned some employers offer paid maternity leave as a means of retaining staff and attracting them in the first place, so I think some employers would even give the government payment to employees in addition to what they already pay (after all its not costing them anything more). So effectively it could end up being an 11k baby bonus for those who already have paid parental leave. For others its just going to be a govt subsidy for something they already do.</p>
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		<title>By: Mindy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mindy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 06:07:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some might try it wilful, but most employers who offer maternity leave (who aren&#039;t govt) do so because they realise the benefits of retaining staff. So most will probably just pay the difference, + super as Mark suggested.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some might try it wilful, but most employers who offer maternity leave (who aren&#8217;t govt) do so because they realise the benefits of retaining staff. So most will probably just pay the difference, + super as Mark suggested.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/09/29/productivity-commission-interim-report-on-paid-parental-leave/#comment-218894</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 05:53:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not sure the incentive is there to do that, wilful. If the federal government pays minimum wage for 18 weeks, it reduces the labour costs of the employer to pay the difference between this and the actual wage rather than having to pay all of the actual wage themselves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not sure the incentive is there to do that, wilful. If the federal government pays minimum wage for 18 weeks, it reduces the labour costs of the employer to pay the difference between this and the actual wage rather than having to pay all of the actual wage themselves.</p>
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		<title>By: wilful</title>
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		<dc:creator>wilful</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 05:42:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Different Chris, one reason means testing isn&#039;t such an issue is it&#039;s minimum wage.

I wonder what would happen to my wife&#039;s mat leave (which she&#039;s currently enjoying)? She gets 3 months (6 months at half pay actually) - would her work dare try to reduce her pay to minimum wage? Given their current hiring difficulties absolutely not, but for a certain number of businesses, professional women will do worse out of this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Different Chris, one reason means testing isn&#8217;t such an issue is it&#8217;s minimum wage.</p>
<p>I wonder what would happen to my wife&#8217;s mat leave (which she&#8217;s currently enjoying)? She gets 3 months (6 months at half pay actually) &#8211; would her work dare try to reduce her pay to minimum wage? Given their current hiring difficulties absolutely not, but for a certain number of businesses, professional women will do worse out of this.</p>
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