Your whole non-argument was a load of ignorant BS which I simply pointed out. So you respond with more of the ‘they’re getting something I’m not’ as if this makes any difference to the fact that you were wrong.

Now you try to divert your argument from tradies claiming their tools etc to yuppies and negative gearing. Good argument, expand the list of those you envy while ignoring the .

“Gunns Ltd to prop themselves up for another year’

I agree maternity/paternity payments would be better than some of the welfare paid to business such as gunns and Mitsubishi. But I am talking about the subsidies they receve, which is welfare, not the tax deductions they receive which every business is entitled to claim and which if done away with would simply result in higher costs to the consumer.

But neither of them are the ute owning tradies you originally started whinging about and nor do those tradies receive any welfare payments for their business. Tax deductions for costs of running their business are NOT welfare Just as tax deductions for union fees, training courses etc are not welfare for the employed.

As I already pointed out to you, do away with the tax deductions to tradies (and all other businesses) and pay extra for any work that the tradie has to do for you to compensate for the extra taxes they will pay.

I await you reply with interest to see which new group you can come up with to envy ‘cos you think they get something you don’t.

Did I say they did? I don’t care. Businesses get deductions and depreciation, landlords get negative gearing, woodchippers get government money for just being such whingers, asylum seekers get astronomically expensive gulags on offshore islands (which they didn’t exactly ask for), whatevs. It’s all government money. Maternity / parental leave is a useful use for my taxes, unlike enabling some yuppie to negatively gear his third apartment, or allowing Gunns Ltd to prop themselves up for another year.

Just go with the flow & accept that not everybody’s experience extends to having handled numbers.

BS. They get tax deductions for expenses related to their business – the same sorts of deductions ALL mum and dad busineesses AND big business get to claim. They don’t get anything that any other business doesn’t get.

“So that is just projection.”

Sorry YOU are the one claiming tradies/self employed are somehow getting sometyhing you aren’t when it is patently bullshit. YOU are the one that expressed ute envy so, sorry, but if anyone is projecting it is yourself.

I made no comment about maternity leave only about your obvious envy of those YOU think are getting something you aren’t. Not sure how you think I’m the one ‘projecting’ when you are the one expressing outright envy.

Read somewhere they will give the greys a pension increase, but maternity leave might not now get up, due to rapidly changing econonomic issues.
Such is the intensity of populist bent dominance of all politics in the global West, despite the major questions about neoliberalism the financial crises have raised.

No. Self-employed people get a plethora of deductions and depreciation allowances rather than transfer payments; but money is still money whatever way it’s coming out of the ATO. The whole backlash against the parental/Maternity leave idea is because some people can’t bear the thought of other people getting something they aren’t. So that is just projection.

Instead of $40k, substitute $50k or $55k or whatever.

I was just going by my personal experience: two degrees, a third almost finished, several years in the workforce, and yet I’ve never earned $40k. $50k would seem a king’s ransom.