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		<title>By: patrickg</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/10/07/no-early-newspoll-interest-rates-to-be-cut/#comment-209793</link>
		<dc:creator>patrickg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 22:32:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Woah steady on OldSkeptic - if you think the world&#039;s about to end economically, I can&#039;t help wondering if some of your skepticism has been drowned under that flagon of McWilliams sherry that old people tend to keep hanging around.

To call your vision the worst case scenario is like calling Ghandi a little bit peckish. I&#039;m not saying that we can all relax, but I think the doom-saying is a little premature.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Woah steady on OldSkeptic &#8211; if you think the world&#8217;s about to end economically, I can&#8217;t help wondering if some of your skepticism has been drowned under that flagon of McWilliams sherry that old people tend to keep hanging around.</p>
<p>To call your vision the worst case scenario is like calling Ghandi a little bit peckish. I&#8217;m not saying that we can all relax, but I think the doom-saying is a little premature.</p>
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		<title>By: Kim</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/10/07/no-early-newspoll-interest-rates-to-be-cut/#comment-209792</link>
		<dc:creator>Kim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 13:39:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;Update&lt;/b&gt;: New &lt;a href=&quot;http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/10/07/essential-research-labor-58-42-interest-rates-cut-by-100-basis-points/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;post&lt;/a&gt; on recent developments.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Update</b>: New <a href="http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/10/07/essential-research-labor-58-42-interest-rates-cut-by-100-basis-points/" rel="nofollow">post</a> on recent developments.</p>
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		<title>By: OldSkeptic</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/10/07/no-early-newspoll-interest-rates-to-be-cut/#comment-209791</link>
		<dc:creator>OldSkeptic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 12:41:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>nflation does not matter.
Neo-liberal idiotology does not matter (except it got us into this mess).
Gradualism does not matter

The economy, pretty much Worldwide (US, UK, EU, Australia, NZ plus a lot of others) is now in cardiac arrest.

There is Worldwide credit freeze. No one is lending to another, especially banks are not lending to each other (which is an interesting counterpoint to all the &quot;Oz banks are safe nonsense&quot; .... they don&#039;t think each other are safe, neither does anyone else in the World).

Now for the hard facts. Oz needs to import external money every day to survive. We have a current account deficit (forget the trade deficit this is the one that matters) in the $70B+ a year level.

To buy oil, to buy food, to buy cars, to buy computers, to buy .. you get the idea. We have to borrow money every day. We also have to borrow to pay the interest on our existing debts.

That inflow has stopped. We have about 4-12 weeks left unless things change. At that point our &#039;safe&#039; banks will have to stop new loans and call in existing loans (maybe your and mine mortgages) to survive. The Govt will have to bail them out (then again Dudd who knows?) but the Govt does not have the the money to do it (technically there actually is way but they will never do it)!

At that point the economy collapses as overdrafts disappear, corporate loans don&#039;t get rolled over, people get turfed out of their houses .. in simple terms companies cannot (maybe even State and the Federal Govt) cannot pay wages. The country runs out of money.

Tick, tic, tick until Oz collapses and quite possibly defaults unless urgent, brutal action is taken. A 1% cut is not enough (3% maybe).

When I say brutal, I mean brutal. Guarantee all deposits, Nationalise at least 1 bank, nationalise super savings. Issue $300-$500B in 10 year Govt bonds and order the super funds to take it up. Pull all overseas investment money back into Oz, especially all the super fund money invested overseas. Print money like all hell and spend it.

As that hiker did a while ago, take your knife out and saw off your own arm to survive .... or die.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>nflation does not matter.<br />
Neo-liberal idiotology does not matter (except it got us into this mess).<br />
Gradualism does not matter</p>
<p>The economy, pretty much Worldwide (US, UK, EU, Australia, NZ plus a lot of others) is now in cardiac arrest.</p>
<p>There is Worldwide credit freeze. No one is lending to another, especially banks are not lending to each other (which is an interesting counterpoint to all the &#8220;Oz banks are safe nonsense&#8221; &#8230;. they don&#8217;t think each other are safe, neither does anyone else in the World).</p>
<p>Now for the hard facts. Oz needs to import external money every day to survive. We have a current account deficit (forget the trade deficit this is the one that matters) in the $70B+ a year level.</p>
<p>To buy oil, to buy food, to buy cars, to buy computers, to buy .. you get the idea. We have to borrow money every day. We also have to borrow to pay the interest on our existing debts.</p>
<p>That inflow has stopped. We have about 4-12 weeks left unless things change. At that point our &#8216;safe&#8217; banks will have to stop new loans and call in existing loans (maybe your and mine mortgages) to survive. The Govt will have to bail them out (then again Dudd who knows?) but the Govt does not have the the money to do it (technically there actually is way but they will never do it)!</p>
<p>At that point the economy collapses as overdrafts disappear, corporate loans don&#8217;t get rolled over, people get turfed out of their houses .. in simple terms companies cannot (maybe even State and the Federal Govt) cannot pay wages. The country runs out of money.</p>
<p>Tick, tic, tick until Oz collapses and quite possibly defaults unless urgent, brutal action is taken. A 1% cut is not enough (3% maybe).</p>
<p>When I say brutal, I mean brutal. Guarantee all deposits, Nationalise at least 1 bank, nationalise super savings. Issue $300-$500B in 10 year Govt bonds and order the super funds to take it up. Pull all overseas investment money back into Oz, especially all the super fund money invested overseas. Print money like all hell and spend it.</p>
<p>As that hiker did a while ago, take your knife out and saw off your own arm to survive &#8230;. or die.</p>
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		<title>By: Lefty E</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lefty E</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 12:13:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yeah, Good luck to Talcum trying on some populist &quot;full cut&quot; routine as the punters soak in an unexpected 0.8% break.
Dont waste yer time mate.

Oh, and incidentally, wasnt it scumbags like YOU at, oh I dunno, say, MACQUARIE BANK who drove cutting edge low equity dodgy-arsed banking on this side of the Pacific rim?

Woops...cant mention that. &#039;Talking down AU institutions&#039; etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yeah, Good luck to Talcum trying on some populist &#8220;full cut&#8221; routine as the punters soak in an unexpected 0.8% break.<br />
Dont waste yer time mate.</p>
<p>Oh, and incidentally, wasnt it scumbags like YOU at, oh I dunno, say, MACQUARIE BANK who drove cutting edge low equity dodgy-arsed banking on this side of the Pacific rim?</p>
<p>Woops&#8230;cant mention that. &#8216;Talking down AU institutions&#8217; etc.</p>
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		<title>By: Kim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 11:39:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Paulus, eek, on other threads I get pinged as an ALP fan... now I&#039;m a starry-eyed follower of Bob Brown?

Obvs a higher cost of funds for banks makes a difference.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paulus, eek, on other threads I get pinged as an ALP fan&#8230; now I&#8217;m a starry-eyed follower of Bob Brown?</p>
<p>Obvs a higher cost of funds for banks makes a difference.</p>
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		<title>By: Ambigulous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ambigulous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 04:01:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One percent rate cut! I thought they might go for something a bit stronger than half a percent. No excuses now for the banks.... they&#039;ll have to pass a fair bit on. [Apologies for all the technical finance/economics jargon.]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One percent rate cut! I thought they might go for something a bit stronger than half a percent. No excuses now for the banks&#8230;. they&#8217;ll have to pass a fair bit on. [Apologies for all the technical finance/economics jargon.]</p>
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		<title>By: Paulus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paulus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 03:20:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Paulus @ 4, no, why?&quot;

Oh, come on, Kim, you&#039;re being disingenuous! :-)


Corporate profiteering vs mortgage relief to ordinary struggling households -- do I have to spell it out?

If Bob Brown had made the same appeal to banks, you&#039;d be 100% behind it.
If not 200%!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Paulus @ 4, no, why?&#8221;</p>
<p>Oh, come on, Kim, you&#8217;re being disingenuous! <img src='http://larvatusprodeo.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Corporate profiteering vs mortgage relief to ordinary struggling households &#8212; do I have to spell it out?</p>
<p>If Bob Brown had made the same appeal to banks, you&#8217;d be 100% behind it.<br />
If not 200%!</p>
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		<title>By: Mercurius</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mercurius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 02:09:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You insensitive clod! My aunt happens to be Mexican!

*/slashdot joke*</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You insensitive clod! My aunt happens to be Mexican!</p>
<p>*/slashdot joke*</p>
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		<title>By: Possum Comitatus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Possum Comitatus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 00:45:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They&#039;re just not coping well with their new fringe status! Today we have poll strikes - what next, mango and pineapple boycotts?

Poor form Mexicans! :mrgreen:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They&#8217;re just not coping well with their new fringe status! Today we have poll strikes &#8211; what next, mango and pineapple boycotts?</p>
<p>Poor form Mexicans! <img src='http://larvatusprodeo.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_mrgreen.gif' alt=':mrgreen:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Kim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 00:37:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yep, I went looking - in vain - for the Essential Research poll last night too Poss! What can we do with the Southerners and their strange ways - don&#039;t they realise which bit of the country is the &quot;heart of the nation&quot; these days! ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yep, I went looking &#8211; in vain &#8211; for the Essential Research poll last night too Poss! What can we do with the Southerners and their strange ways &#8211; don&#8217;t they realise which bit of the country is the &#8220;heart of the nation&#8221; these days! <img src='http://larvatusprodeo.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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