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	<title>Comments on: AFP submission to the Clarke Inquiry released</title>
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		<title>By: Ambigulous</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/10/24/afp-submission-to-the-clarke-inquiry-released/#comment-212436</link>
		<dc:creator>Ambigulous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Oct 2008 09:06:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ummmm,
yes, I recognised there was a South Parker lurking there. Enticement? not likely.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ummmm,<br />
yes, I recognised there was a South Parker lurking there. Enticement? not likely.</p>
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		<title>By: Blogreader</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/10/24/afp-submission-to-the-clarke-inquiry-released/#comment-212435</link>
		<dc:creator>Blogreader</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Oct 2008 08:14:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As far as I know, nobody has yet explained who provided the information to the AFP about the whereabouts of the SIM card, or when or by whom that information was provided.
This would have been a crucial piece of evidence in any trial.
A sensible explanation of this gaffe (the card was miles away from where they said it was, in Liverpool) by the AFP would go a long way to restoring some faith in them.
An honest mistake would be the best outcome for the AFP.
I can think of other, more disappointing explanations.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As far as I know, nobody has yet explained who provided the information to the AFP about the whereabouts of the SIM card, or when or by whom that information was provided.<br />
This would have been a crucial piece of evidence in any trial.<br />
A sensible explanation of this gaffe (the card was miles away from where they said it was, in Liverpool) by the AFP would go a long way to restoring some faith in them.<br />
An honest mistake would be the best outcome for the AFP.<br />
I can think of other, more disappointing explanations.</p>
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		<title>By: Umm Yasmin</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/10/24/afp-submission-to-the-clarke-inquiry-released/#comment-212434</link>
		<dc:creator>Umm Yasmin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Oct 2008 00:28:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Robert@7

Guilty of bad taste in pulp fiction???

Ambigulous@26

Well I wouldn&#039;t anyone to be sexually enticed by my &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.southparkstudios.com/fans/avatar/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;South Park Avatar&lt;/a&gt; or anything ;P~~~</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Robert@7</p>
<p>Guilty of bad taste in pulp fiction???</p>
<p>Ambigulous@26</p>
<p>Well I wouldn&#8217;t anyone to be sexually enticed by my <a href="http://www.southparkstudios.com/fans/avatar/" rel="nofollow">South Park Avatar</a> or anything ;P~~~</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Kemp</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/10/24/afp-submission-to-the-clarke-inquiry-released/#comment-212433</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter Kemp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2008 22:05:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marr&#039;s article at the Smage:

&lt;blockquote&gt;Embarrassment, acrimony and blame-shifting followed. The AFP is still ladling it out in the submission to Clarke released this week. It is blaming the DPP for the charge ever being laid; Scotland Yard for supplying incorrect information; the DPP again for not publicly correcting crucial errors in police briefings; Haneef&#039;s legal team for releasing transcripts of his interrogation; and the press for too often getting the story wrong: &quot;The erroneous reporting was not only unhelpful to Dr Haneef and the AFP, it was unfair to the Australian community who might reasonably have expected that accurate information on such an important issue was being made available to them.&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Rephrasing the last paragraph into a more accurate representation methinks:
&lt;blockquote&gt;It was grossly unfair to Australian Joe Sixpacks that the paucity of evidence could not be hidden long enough for us to railroad Haneef into jail and our political masters to win an election.&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marr&#8217;s article at the Smage:</p>
<blockquote><p>Embarrassment, acrimony and blame-shifting followed. The AFP is still ladling it out in the submission to Clarke released this week. It is blaming the DPP for the charge ever being laid; Scotland Yard for supplying incorrect information; the DPP again for not publicly correcting crucial errors in police briefings; Haneef&#8217;s legal team for releasing transcripts of his interrogation; and the press for too often getting the story wrong: &#8220;The erroneous reporting was not only unhelpful to Dr Haneef and the AFP, it was unfair to the Australian community who might reasonably have expected that accurate information on such an important issue was being made available to them.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>Rephrasing the last paragraph into a more accurate representation methinks:</p>
<blockquote><p>It was grossly unfair to Australian Joe Sixpacks that the paucity of evidence could not be hidden long enough for us to railroad Haneef into jail and our political masters to win an election.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: Mercurius</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/10/24/afp-submission-to-the-clarke-inquiry-released/#comment-212432</link>
		<dc:creator>Mercurius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2008 11:59:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amazon are selling &lt;em&gt;Mein Kampf&lt;/em&gt;! To the gallows for Jeff Bezos!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amazon are selling <em>Mein Kampf</em>! To the gallows for Jeff Bezos!</p>
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		<title>By: Ambigulous</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/10/24/afp-submission-to-the-clarke-inquiry-released/#comment-212431</link>
		<dc:creator>Ambigulous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2008 11:53:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Umm Yasmin

I like your partly veiled avatar!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Umm Yasmin</p>
<p>I like your partly veiled avatar!</p>
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		<title>By: GregM</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/10/24/afp-submission-to-the-clarke-inquiry-released/#comment-212430</link>
		<dc:creator>GregM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2008 11:35:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;GregM: I don’t think I’d be holding up the example of our immigration regime, as indicated by the previous government, as an example.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Robert, I&#039;m not doing that. I am, however, seeking to defend the Indonesians from that reflexive view that SATP has been espousing about our malignant/incompetent/unworthy neighbours to our North. If we seek to judge them against our own standards, as SATP does, then it is fair to examine those standards of ours that we are judging them against.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>GregM: I don’t think I’d be holding up the example of our immigration regime, as indicated by the previous government, as an example.</p></blockquote>
<p>Robert, I&#8217;m not doing that. I am, however, seeking to defend the Indonesians from that reflexive view that SATP has been espousing about our malignant/incompetent/unworthy neighbours to our North. If we seek to judge them against our own standards, as SATP does, then it is fair to examine those standards of ours that we are judging them against.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Merkel</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/10/24/afp-submission-to-the-clarke-inquiry-released/#comment-212429</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Merkel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2008 11:27:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>GregM: I don&#039;t think I&#039;d be holding up the example of our immigration regime, as indicated by the previous government, as an example.

Furthermore, the situations aren&#039;t the same.  There is no doubt that the people involved are Australian citizens.  They aren&#039;t seeking to stay in Indonesia.  Their home country is happy to have them back, and they are happy and active seeking to come back.

In such circumstances, slapping them on the wrist as expeditiously as possible, and throwing them back on the plane/boat to Australia, would seem to me to be a fair outcome.

Spending months on criminal proceedings with the threat of years in jail seems way over the top.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GregM: I don&#8217;t think I&#8217;d be holding up the example of our immigration regime, as indicated by the previous government, as an example.</p>
<p>Furthermore, the situations aren&#8217;t the same.  There is no doubt that the people involved are Australian citizens.  They aren&#8217;t seeking to stay in Indonesia.  Their home country is happy to have them back, and they are happy and active seeking to come back.</p>
<p>In such circumstances, slapping them on the wrist as expeditiously as possible, and throwing them back on the plane/boat to Australia, would seem to me to be a fair outcome.</p>
<p>Spending months on criminal proceedings with the threat of years in jail seems way over the top.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Kemp</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/10/24/afp-submission-to-the-clarke-inquiry-released/#comment-212428</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter Kemp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2008 11:17:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shorter AFP: We screwed up, but here&#039;s some more irrelevant b/s evidence that even Minister Andrews or Inspector Clouseau would have cringed if we had leaked it to the Oz.

Shorter, shorter Gilbert &amp; Sullivan Comic Opera: A policeman&#039;s lot is not a happy one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shorter AFP: We screwed up, but here&#8217;s some more irrelevant b/s evidence that even Minister Andrews or Inspector Clouseau would have cringed if we had leaked it to the Oz.</p>
<p>Shorter, shorter Gilbert &amp; Sullivan Comic Opera: A policeman&#8217;s lot is not a happy one.</p>
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		<title>By: GregM</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/10/24/afp-submission-to-the-clarke-inquiry-released/#comment-212427</link>
		<dc:creator>GregM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2008 11:08:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;One wonders, however, whether the leisurely pace of justice is some kind of payback for Australia’s approach to dealing with Indonesian fisherfolk…&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Robert, you have to be kidding. These people arrived in Merauke only six weeks ago. Comopared to the time taken by Australia to process illegal immigrants this is but a blip in time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>One wonders, however, whether the leisurely pace of justice is some kind of payback for Australia’s approach to dealing with Indonesian fisherfolk…</p></blockquote>
<p>Robert, you have to be kidding. These people arrived in Merauke only six weeks ago. Comopared to the time taken by Australia to process illegal immigrants this is but a blip in time.</p>
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