Comments on: US election: links post http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/11/04/us-election-links-post/ Life, Culture and Politics from BrisVegas Tue, 14 Feb 2012 08:56:52 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3 By: Kim http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/11/04/us-election-links-post/#comment-203316 Kim Tue, 04 Nov 2008 16:11:14 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/11/04/us-election-links-post/#comment-203316 <b>Update</b>: An interesting post from Jon Perr on the <a href="http://crooksandliars.com/jon-perr/will-obama-win-character-war" rel="nofollow">"character war"</a> waged against Democrats. Update: An interesting post from Jon Perr on the “character war” waged against Democrats.

]]> By: Kim http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/11/04/us-election-links-post/#comment-203315 Kim Tue, 04 Nov 2008 11:43:20 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/11/04/us-election-links-post/#comment-203315 Perhaps the current shift in opinion has something to do with the stellar results that a Republican President, House and Senate obtained from 2002-2006? Perhaps the current shift in opinion has something to do with the stellar results that a Republican President, House and Senate obtained from 2002-2006?

]]> By: Colonel of Truth http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/11/04/us-election-links-post/#comment-203314 Colonel of Truth Tue, 04 Nov 2008 11:36:10 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/11/04/us-election-links-post/#comment-203314 Well, let's all hope that wall to wall US Democrats (President, House, Senate, umpty-ump states) will deliver the same speedy, sensible and effective outcomes as Oz now does with its wall to wall Labor folk. (Quiet, Hortense, we do not talk about the NT intervention, computers in classrooms or surgery queues. And while flinging pelf at pensioners may not be sensible it is certainly speedy. And effective - electorally.) Well, let’s all hope that wall to wall US Democrats (President, House, Senate, umpty-ump states) will deliver the same speedy, sensible and effective outcomes as Oz now does with its wall to wall Labor folk. (Quiet, Hortense, we do not talk about the NT intervention, computers in classrooms or surgery queues. And while flinging pelf at pensioners may not be sensible it is certainly speedy. And effective – electorally.)

]]> By: Kim http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/11/04/us-election-links-post/#comment-203313 Kim Tue, 04 Nov 2008 11:03:05 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/11/04/us-election-links-post/#comment-203313 Absolutely, Down and Out! :) Absolutely, Down and Out! :)

]]> By: Down and Out of Sài Gòn http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/11/04/us-election-links-post/#comment-203312 Down and Out of Sài Gòn Tue, 04 Nov 2008 10:55:56 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/11/04/us-election-links-post/#comment-203312 Yes, I have seen it, Kim. But it was 5:30 in the afternoon today, and quick back-of-the-envelope calculation showed that it was also 12:30 on the morning of the 4th, North American Eastern Time. "Voting must have started somewhere", I thought. Looky here at teh Google - first results already in. Let's tell the good folk at LP." At the time, I didn't really care if McCain or Obama had won the unincorporated village of Dixville Notch. It was a result. It's also interesting that this normally Republican hamlet had gone for Obama - the last few elections had gone for Bush senior and junior and Dole. But as for extrapolating this sample of 21 to New Hampshire (let alone the US) - forget it. It's got a margin of error that Possum would piss on. Still, as Nate said at 538: "Still, you'd rather be up 15-6 than down, wouldn't you?" :-) Yes, I have seen it, Kim. But it was 5:30 in the afternoon today, and quick back-of-the-envelope calculation showed that it was also 12:30 on the morning of the 4th, North American Eastern Time. “Voting must have started somewhere”, I thought. Looky here at teh Google – first results already in. Let’s tell the good folk at LP.” At the time, I didn’t really care if McCain or Obama had won the unincorporated village of Dixville Notch. It was a result. It’s also interesting that this normally Republican hamlet had gone for Obama – the last few elections had gone for Bush senior and junior and Dole.

But as for extrapolating this sample of 21 to New Hampshire (let alone the US) – forget it. It’s got a margin of error that Possum would piss on. Still, as Nate said at 538: “Still, you’d rather be up 15-6 than down, wouldn’t you?” :-)

]]> By: Jenny http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/11/04/us-election-links-post/#comment-203311 Jenny Tue, 04 Nov 2008 10:42:04 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/11/04/us-election-links-post/#comment-203311 I came across a wikipedia site that claimed that in the 2000 republican primaries republican groups launched a series of slurs against McCain: - that he was gay - that his wife was a drug-addict - that his adopted Bangladeshi daughter was actually black - that he had an uncontrollable temper - that he cheated on his wife. God, he must have hated his party for that. Suddenly, for the first time, McCain's campaign is starting to make sense to me. I think I understand the selection of a mean, shrill and stupid whack job for VP. And the lame slurs about Ayers and Wright. And that creepily obsequious use of 'my friends' in the second debate. And his apparent bladder problem in the third. The ridiculous decision to cancel Letterman then attend a different TV interview down the road, on the palpably false grounds that he had to hurry back to Washington to save the country. The crazy campaigning in long-lost Pennsylvania. And the endless and ultimately risable focus on Joe the Bogan. Yep, I think you got 'em Johnny. Revenge, a dish best-served cold. Suck it up Repugs. I came across a wikipedia site that claimed that in the 2000 republican primaries republican groups launched a series of slurs against McCain:

- that he was gay
- that his wife was a drug-addict
- that his adopted Bangladeshi daughter was actually black
- that he had an uncontrollable temper
- that he cheated on his wife.

God, he must have hated his party for that.

Suddenly, for the first time, McCain’s campaign is starting to make sense to me. I think I understand the selection of a mean, shrill and stupid whack job for VP. And the lame slurs about Ayers and Wright. And that creepily obsequious use of ‘my friends’ in the second debate. And his apparent bladder problem in the third. The ridiculous decision to cancel Letterman then attend a different TV interview down the road, on the palpably false grounds that he had to hurry back to Washington to save the country. The crazy campaigning in long-lost Pennsylvania. And the endless and ultimately risable focus on Joe the Bogan.

Yep, I think you got ‘em Johnny. Revenge, a dish best-served cold. Suck it up Repugs.

]]> By: Roger Jones http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/11/04/us-election-links-post/#comment-203310 Roger Jones Tue, 04 Nov 2008 09:04:33 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/11/04/us-election-links-post/#comment-203310 Last US election I was in Manila at a climate change meeting and my US colleagues were hitting CNN in between talks catching the trends. In Oz, we had just had an election and I remember it started really well for Labor and then turned sour. On that basis I (disappointedly) called the US race while Kerry had the New England votes, looked good, and while the west was still polling. It won't be the same this time. Land. Slide. And good for the planet, we hope, tho' as never as good as we would like (Isn't that right, Kevin?) Last US election I was in Manila at a climate change meeting and my US colleagues were hitting CNN in between talks catching the trends. In Oz, we had just had an election and I remember it started really well for Labor and then turned sour. On that basis I (disappointedly) called the US race while Kerry had the New England votes, looked good, and while the west was still polling.

It won’t be the same this time.

Land. Slide.

And good for the planet, we hope, tho’ as never as good as we would like (Isn’t that right, Kevin?)

]]> By: Kim http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/11/04/us-election-links-post/#comment-203309 Kim Tue, 04 Nov 2008 08:48:21 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/11/04/us-election-links-post/#comment-203309 Down and Out, no doubt you've seen this: http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/2008/11/is-dixville-notch-predictive.html Down and Out, no doubt you’ve seen this:

http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/2008/11/is-dixville-notch-predictive.html

]]> By: Down and Out of Sài Gòn http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/11/04/us-election-links-post/#comment-203308 Down and Out of Sài Gòn Tue, 04 Nov 2008 07:35:10 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/11/04/us-election-links-post/#comment-203308 And the race has started! <a href="http://www.allheadlinenews.com/articles/7012900380" rel="nofollow">First Votes In As New Hampshire Town Picks Barack Obama</a>. And the race has started! First Votes In As New Hampshire Town Picks Barack Obama.

]]> By: Peter Kemp http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/11/04/us-election-links-post/#comment-203307 Peter Kemp Tue, 04 Nov 2008 06:37:28 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/11/04/us-election-links-post/#comment-203307 In a motel, (with the laptop and a 3G stick) in relatively far western NSW, similar in some ways to Alabama--contemplating the trepidation and fears for the world that I have if Obama loses, compared to the fears and trepidation of two clients before the District Court, one who will be slotted, (the question for how long), and the other, whether or not his appeal gets up. It's a reminder that each person's worldview can be so different but I'd like to think, and I think I'm maybe correct that my two clients know far more about the world than McCain's average southern voter! gObama! In a motel, (with the laptop and a 3G stick) in relatively far western NSW, similar in some ways to Alabama–contemplating the trepidation and fears for the world that I have if Obama loses, compared to the fears and trepidation of two clients before the District Court, one who will be slotted, (the question for how long), and the other, whether or not his appeal gets up.

It’s a reminder that each person’s worldview can be so different but I’d like to think, and I think I’m maybe correct that my two clients know far more about the world than McCain’s average southern voter!

gObama!

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