Comments on: End of the Road for Surfdom; and the future of independent online media http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/11/06/end-of-the-road-for-surfdom-and-the-future-of-independent-online-media/ Life, Culture and Politics from BrisVegas Tue, 14 Feb 2012 10:11:31 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3 By: wilful http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/11/06/end-of-the-road-for-surfdom-and-the-future-of-independent-online-media/#comment-203996 wilful Thu, 27 Nov 2008 23:22:54 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/11/06/end-of-the-road-for-surfdom-and-the-future-of-independent-online-media/#comment-203996 well there you go, I read my facebook (something I only do once a month or so), found this thread (been on hols so missed it), and disabled adblock for this site. So there, an extra 5c a month or so, I guess. I <em>really</em> don't need a platinum amex card. well there you go, I read my facebook (something I only do once a month or so), found this thread (been on hols so missed it), and disabled adblock for this site. So there, an extra 5c a month or so, I guess. I really don’t need a platinum amex card.

]]> By: Mark http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/11/06/end-of-the-road-for-surfdom-and-the-future-of-independent-online-media/#comment-203995 Mark Sat, 08 Nov 2008 03:10:16 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/11/06/end-of-the-road-for-surfdom-and-the-future-of-independent-online-media/#comment-203995 John Quiggin: http://johnquiggin.com/index.php/archives/2008/11/08/a-farewell-to-surfdom/ John Quiggin:

http://johnquiggin.com/index.php/archives/2008/11/08/a-farewell-to-surfdom/

]]> By: TimT http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/11/06/end-of-the-road-for-surfdom-and-the-future-of-independent-online-media/#comment-203994 TimT Fri, 07 Nov 2008 21:48:16 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/11/06/end-of-the-road-for-surfdom-and-the-future-of-independent-online-media/#comment-203994 Blair also linked and encouraged a number of start-up bloggers in the early years Robert. And his style - divorced from questions of content for the moment - is quite distinctive. For instance, he borrowed the classic short-comment/link idea from American blogs, like Instapundit, but helped it to catch on in the Australian blogosphere. I am not quite sure why funding for political blogs would be different for funding from other sorts of blogs. Certainly questions of the partisan interests of sponsors, etc, would come into it, but in practice, in other mediums, the funding is the same no matter what is being presented - ie, on the ABC you get gardening shows and kids' cartoons sitting alongside political analysis. Publishing companies put out political/partisan books alongside of more objective political analysis and fiction, recipe books, etc etc. Perhaps because blogs are an individualistic medium they might tend to attract questions about partisan/political funding in a way that other more corporatised or communal mediums don't. But certainly, I don't on the face of it see why those specialised funding models you suggest on your website shouldn't be good for both non-political blogs as well. Blair also linked and encouraged a number of start-up bloggers in the early years Robert. And his style – divorced from questions of content for the moment – is quite distinctive. For instance, he borrowed the classic short-comment/link idea from American blogs, like Instapundit, but helped it to catch on in the Australian blogosphere.

I am not quite sure why funding for political blogs would be different for funding from other sorts of blogs. Certainly questions of the partisan interests of sponsors, etc, would come into it, but in practice, in other mediums, the funding is the same no matter what is being presented – ie, on the ABC you get gardening shows and kids’ cartoons sitting alongside political analysis. Publishing companies put out political/partisan books alongside of more objective political analysis and fiction, recipe books, etc etc.

Perhaps because blogs are an individualistic medium they might tend to attract questions about partisan/political funding in a way that other more corporatised or communal mediums don’t. But certainly, I don’t on the face of it see why those specialised funding models you suggest on your website shouldn’t be good for both non-political blogs as well.

]]> By: Kim http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/11/06/end-of-the-road-for-surfdom-and-the-future-of-independent-online-media/#comment-203993 Kim Fri, 07 Nov 2008 14:51:47 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/11/06/end-of-the-road-for-surfdom-and-the-future-of-independent-online-media/#comment-203993 C'est vrai, Lefty E! Lofty views from Keating Towers and dizzy summits of academia. Onwards to the commanding heights of teh economy, citoyens! ;) C’est vrai, Lefty E!

Lofty views from Keating Towers and dizzy summits of academia. Onwards to the commanding heights of teh economy, citoyens! ;)

]]> By: Lefty E http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/11/06/end-of-the-road-for-surfdom-and-the-future-of-independent-online-media/#comment-203992 Lefty E Fri, 07 Nov 2008 14:44:40 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/11/06/end-of-the-road-for-surfdom-and-the-future-of-independent-online-media/#comment-203992 Want career advancement tricks, need LE. And as I always say Kimski, my work isn't going to speak for itself, now is it?? :0) In any case, academic refereeing is never as rigorous as the google-driven interrogations you get here. Want career advancement tricks, need LE.

And as I always say Kimski, my work isn’t going to speak for itself, now is it??
:0)

In any case, academic refereeing is never as rigorous as the google-driven interrogations you get here.

]]> By: Kim http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/11/06/end-of-the-road-for-surfdom-and-the-future-of-independent-online-media/#comment-203991 Kim Fri, 07 Nov 2008 14:28:47 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/11/06/end-of-the-road-for-surfdom-and-the-future-of-independent-online-media/#comment-203991 That's how you get to the dizzy summits of academia, Lefty E? I should have tried harder! ;) That’s how you get to the dizzy summits of academia, Lefty E? I should have tried harder! ;)

]]> By: Lefty E http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/11/06/end-of-the-road-for-surfdom-and-the-future-of-independent-online-media/#comment-203990 Lefty E Fri, 07 Nov 2008 14:25:07 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/11/06/end-of-the-road-for-surfdom-and-the-future-of-independent-online-media/#comment-203990 Would I buy a book?!! I've been declaring my posts as DEST publications for years! :) Would I buy a book?!! I’ve been declaring my posts as DEST publications for years! :)

]]> By: Sarah Stokely http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/11/06/end-of-the-road-for-surfdom-and-the-future-of-independent-online-media/#comment-203989 Sarah Stokely Fri, 07 Nov 2008 13:58:19 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/11/06/end-of-the-road-for-surfdom-and-the-future-of-independent-online-media/#comment-203989 Ebooks are a cheaper & smarter way to publish collections. A lot of bloggers have gone this route because it's cheaper, they can self publish and don't need to get a bricks and mortar publisher involved. One example is the Zen Habits productivity blog: http://zenhabits.net/2007/11/zen-to-done-the-simple-productivity-e-book/ As a reader I also like them because you can buy them online and download them immediately. :) Ebooks are a cheaper & smarter way to publish collections. A lot of bloggers have gone this route because it’s cheaper, they can self publish and don’t need to get a bricks and mortar publisher involved.
One example is the Zen Habits productivity blog:
http://zenhabits.net/2007/11/zen-to-done-the-simple-productivity-e-book/

As a reader I also like them because you can buy them online and download them immediately. :)

]]> By: Kim http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/11/06/end-of-the-road-for-surfdom-and-the-future-of-independent-online-media/#comment-203988 Kim Fri, 07 Nov 2008 13:43:02 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/11/06/end-of-the-road-for-surfdom-and-the-future-of-independent-online-media/#comment-203988 I just wanted to observe that this discussion in my view undermines one of Guy Rundle's points: <blockquote>Yet building the collective will and social capital that grounds such publications prior to their take-off is not nothing. It takes exhaustive commitment, and the attenuated and somewhat atomised form of association characteristic of much collective blogging is thin soil for getting there.</blockquote> I just wanted to observe that this discussion in my view undermines one of Guy Rundle’s points:

Yet building the collective will and social capital that grounds such publications prior to their take-off is not nothing. It takes exhaustive commitment, and the attenuated and somewhat atomised form of association characteristic of much collective blogging is thin soil for getting there.

]]> By: Robert http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/11/06/end-of-the-road-for-surfdom-and-the-future-of-independent-online-media/#comment-203987 Robert Fri, 07 Nov 2008 12:46:59 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/11/06/end-of-the-road-for-surfdom-and-the-future-of-independent-online-media/#comment-203987 I also think that the funding model for a food blog or music blog will necessarily be significantly different (and less problematic) than the funding model for a public affairs/political blog. I also think that the funding model for a food blog or music blog will necessarily be significantly different (and less problematic) than the funding model for a public affairs/political blog.

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