Comments on: Seducing Mr Darcy http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/11/14/seducing-mr-darcy/ Life, Culture and Politics from BrisVegas Tue, 14 Feb 2012 01:17:47 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3 By: Adrien http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/11/14/seducing-mr-darcy/#comment-205540 Adrien Tue, 18 Nov 2008 07:30:33 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/11/14/seducing-mr-darcy/#comment-205540 <b>GOD DAMN!!!!!</b> . My Mr Darcy Poll went bung. Obviously peaple were really annoyed. But <a href="http://snappoll.com/poll/300718.php" rel="nofollow">it's back on and it works.</a>. . Please vote: I'm curious. GOD DAMN!!!!!
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My Mr Darcy Poll went bung. Obviously peaple were really annoyed. But it’s back on and it works..
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Please vote: I’m curious.

]]> By: paul walter http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/11/14/seducing-mr-darcy/#comment-205539 paul walter Tue, 18 Nov 2008 06:22:01 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/11/14/seducing-mr-darcy/#comment-205539 Don't know how relevant this is, but apparently were related to the Dukes of Chandos, freebooters associated with Marlborough; also Warren Hastings, the probable model for colonel what-'is-face in one of Austen's novels ( Sense and Sensibility? ). Hastings got caught with his fingers in the till in a big way during his defacto vice regal time in India. BTW, of little known historical concern is the story of the Bengal famine of the early seventeen seventies, that occurred in the wake of Robert Clive but before Hastings, induced by the whole sale plundering by the civilised British. Several millions died, but usually we only read of stories of brave Clive overthrowing dastardly Nawabs. By the early nineteen forties the British, by then on the way out, still managed to create a massive famine in Bengal that also killed millions, in misappropriating rice harvests for their war effort. But we all know, the only war crimes that occurred in WW2 involving the deaths of millions, was the jewish holocaust. And no, am not mentioning the blood bath of the division of India in the late forties; that is a seperate issue, again. Lest there is confusion on this point. Don’t know how relevant this is, but apparently were related to the Dukes of Chandos, freebooters associated with Marlborough; also Warren Hastings, the probable model for colonel what-’is-face in one of Austen’s novels ( Sense and Sensibility? ). Hastings got caught with his fingers in the till in a big way during his defacto vice regal time in India.
BTW, of little known historical concern is the story of the Bengal famine of the early seventeen seventies, that occurred in the wake of Robert Clive but before Hastings, induced by the whole sale plundering by the civilised British. Several millions died, but usually we only read of stories of brave Clive overthrowing dastardly Nawabs.
By the early nineteen forties the British, by then on the way out, still managed to create a massive famine in Bengal that also killed millions, in misappropriating rice harvests for their war effort.
But we all know, the only war crimes that occurred in WW2 involving the deaths of millions, was the jewish holocaust.
And no, am not mentioning the blood bath of the division of India in the late forties; that is a seperate issue, again. Lest there is confusion on this point.

]]> By: Mark http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/11/14/seducing-mr-darcy/#comment-205538 Mark Mon, 17 Nov 2008 09:59:57 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/11/14/seducing-mr-darcy/#comment-205538 Sorry, Adrien, I missed the "son" bit. Sorry, Adrien, I missed the “son” bit.

]]> By: Adrien http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/11/14/seducing-mr-darcy/#comment-205537 Adrien Mon, 17 Nov 2008 08:09:54 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/11/14/seducing-mr-darcy/#comment-205537 <i>Lord North died in 1792.</i> . Which is way before 1800 I'm sure. His private secretary's <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beau_Brummell" rel="nofollow"><i>son</i></a> was a near contemporary of Austen's and had some small influence on the times. . And now the online poll we had to have: Who was the best Mr Darcy? - <a href="http://www.flexipoll.com" rel="nofollow">~ flexiPoll: free online web poll ~</a> Lord North died in 1792.
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Which is way before 1800 I’m sure. His private secretary’s son was a near contemporary of Austen’s and had some small influence on the times.
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And now the online poll we had to have: Who was the best Mr Darcy? -

~ flexiPoll: free online web poll ~

]]> By: Mark http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/11/14/seducing-mr-darcy/#comment-205536 Mark Mon, 17 Nov 2008 07:59:25 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/11/14/seducing-mr-darcy/#comment-205536 Lord North died in 1792. Lord North died in 1792.

]]> By: Adrien http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/11/14/seducing-mr-darcy/#comment-205535 Adrien Mon, 17 Nov 2008 07:51:13 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/11/14/seducing-mr-darcy/#comment-205535 <i>wrong century and wrong social class</i> . Que? Jane Austen 1775-1817 (25 in 1800). To be sure Austen's father was one of those scruffy bourgeois upstarts (apparently he knew how to do something other than riding horses and playing Faro. Scandalous!). But her mother was the daughter of the Leigh family (tho' not the Baron). In fact I'm not sure there was a Baron at the time but doesn't Baron sound better than Squire? :) . . And now I'm off. Old Brownstain's arranged for us to hunt one of the butler's children. Cheerio! wrong century and wrong social class
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Que? Jane Austen 1775-1817 (25 in 1800). To be sure Austen’s father was one of those scruffy bourgeois upstarts (apparently he knew how to do something other than riding horses and playing Faro. Scandalous!). But her mother was the daughter of the Leigh family (tho’ not the Baron). In fact I’m not sure there was a Baron at the time but doesn’t Baron sound better than Squire? :) .
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And now I’m off. Old Brownstain’s arranged for us to hunt one of the butler’s children. Cheerio!

]]> By: Kim http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/11/14/seducing-mr-darcy/#comment-205534 Kim Mon, 17 Nov 2008 07:24:36 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/11/14/seducing-mr-darcy/#comment-205534 Err, wrong century and wrong social class, Adrien. Parody is more effective if it's vaguely accurate! Err, wrong century and wrong social class, Adrien. Parody is more effective if it’s vaguely accurate!

]]> By: Adrien http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/11/14/seducing-mr-darcy/#comment-205533 Adrien Mon, 17 Nov 2008 05:08:22 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/11/14/seducing-mr-darcy/#comment-205533 Oh how vile. . The plebs are sullying the Baron Leigh's most famous grand-daughter yet again with their perfectly commonplace fantasia and just look at that version of Mr Darcy. Egad! Man! He has a tan. That probably means he did a job of work sometime. Shockin'. . Sink me. I declare I have no intention of indulging the middle-classes at play. . Fawsells, Fawsells! Fetch my snuff poste haste! And have four footmen bring me to my carriage. Lord North's private secretary has a son who spends seventeen hours tyin' his cravat. I will not be outdone. Away to Paris before the bill arrives. Oh how vile.
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The plebs are sullying the Baron Leigh’s most famous grand-daughter yet again with their perfectly commonplace fantasia and just look at that version of Mr Darcy. Egad! Man! He has a tan. That probably means he did a job of work sometime. Shockin’.
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Sink me. I declare I have no intention of indulging the middle-classes at play.
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Fawsells, Fawsells! Fetch my snuff poste haste! And have four footmen bring me to my carriage. Lord North’s private secretary has a son who spends seventeen hours tyin’ his cravat. I will not be outdone. Away to Paris before the bill arrives.

]]> By: Adrien http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/11/14/seducing-mr-darcy/#comment-205532 Adrien Mon, 17 Nov 2008 05:00:57 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/11/14/seducing-mr-darcy/#comment-205532 Austen's generation, those who came of age around 1800 are really remarkable. That generation beats the shit out of the 1960s for libertarian outrageousness. And they were sexy and stylish as well. Hardly surprising we've got a fetish for it. Austen’s generation, those who came of age around 1800 are really remarkable. That generation beats the shit out of the 1960s for libertarian outrageousness. And they were sexy and stylish as well. Hardly surprising we’ve got a fetish for it.

]]> By: Marks http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/11/14/seducing-mr-darcy/#comment-205531 Marks Mon, 17 Nov 2008 00:06:37 +0000 http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/11/14/seducing-mr-darcy/#comment-205531 TimT at 23. I agree with you that JA is making people aware of their own fallibilities. Though how many actually 'get' that is probably fairly few. It can also be seen as a template of how and why prejudices form and are maintained in the face of however many facts might oppose that prejudice. Starting off with the first sentence of the book: "It is a truth universally accepted that a {insert recipient of prejudice here} must be {insert form of prejudice here}." etc. TimT at 23.

I agree with you that JA is making people aware of their own fallibilities. Though how many actually ‘get’ that is probably fairly few.

It can also be seen as a template of how and why prejudices form and are maintained in the face of however many facts might oppose that prejudice.

Starting off with the first sentence of the book:

“It is a truth universally accepted that a {insert recipient of prejudice here} must be {insert form of prejudice here}.” etc.

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