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		<title>By: murph the surf</title>
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		<dc:creator>murph the surf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 04:34:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://business.smh.com.au/business/pmp-fails-to-deliver-20081119-6b4f.html?page=2
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The link is to a story of scamartists masquerading as advisors.
With discussion&#039;s about the economy  being motivated by concerns for in what way and for what purpose are new regualtions being considered the minimum I&#039;d love to see is that these types of criminals could be jailed for at least - oh what ? say 12 years minimum before parole.
The facts of the case aren&#039;t too complicated but without effective sanctions why would any white collar crim worry?
Or is this all too much to hope for?</description>
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The link is to a story of scamartists masquerading as advisors.<br />
With discussion&#8217;s about the economy  being motivated by concerns for in what way and for what purpose are new regualtions being considered the minimum I&#8217;d love to see is that these types of criminals could be jailed for at least &#8211; oh what ? say 12 years minimum before parole.<br />
The facts of the case aren&#8217;t too complicated but without effective sanctions why would any white collar crim worry?<br />
Or is this all too much to hope for?</p>
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		<title>By: Graham Bell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Graham Bell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 03:56:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Everyone:

Off the air.  Computer finally carked-it.  [Using someone else&#039;s just now].  Waiting for Uncle Kevin&#039;s generous Christmas present for pensioners to come through then I might either get the computer fixed or prowl the For Sale ads for a replacement.

Glad to see j-p-z is back.  So His Glorious Imperialness, King George II The Failed, didn&#039;t send him to Gitmo or have him rendered as a farewell gesture in the dying days of His magnificent reign.  Good.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Everyone:</p>
<p>Off the air.  Computer finally carked-it.  [Using someone else's just now].  Waiting for Uncle Kevin&#8217;s generous Christmas present for pensioners to come through then I might either get the computer fixed or prowl the For Sale ads for a replacement.</p>
<p>Glad to see j-p-z is back.  So His Glorious Imperialness, King George II The Failed, didn&#8217;t send him to Gitmo or have him rendered as a farewell gesture in the dying days of His magnificent reign.  Good.</p>
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		<title>By: Lefty E</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lefty E</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 02:47:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ANyone else cop a load of the Huger ED supplememnt in the OO tday?

shock headline: Group of 8 beleives Group of 8 should get all the research dollars! Why even bother printing that self-serving trash?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ANyone else cop a load of the Huger ED supplememnt in the OO tday?</p>
<p>shock headline: Group of 8 beleives Group of 8 should get all the research dollars! Why even bother printing that self-serving trash?</p>
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		<title>By: Tyne Tees</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tyne Tees</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 06:36:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Helen Mirren has disgraced herself - &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,24663894-661,00.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Herald Sun&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Helen Mirren has disgraced herself &#8211; <a href="http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,24663894-661,00.html" rel="nofollow">Herald Sun</a></p>
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		<title>By: dylwah</title>
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		<dc:creator>dylwah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 02:17:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>heh, thanks Quog, i hopr that the authors don&#039;t run into any Droogs</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>heh, thanks Quog, i hopr that the authors don&#8217;t run into any Droogs</p>
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		<title>By: Helen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Helen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Nov 2008 11:47:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would have done the backing off thing LM, but the dog and cat thought annoying the snake was the best thing ever and they were going to go back to it despite all entreaties. Why didn&#039;t I just lock the both of them up? As I recall I would have had to physically catch them as they were deaf with excitement - and the snake was in kind of close proximity.

Another brown snake story: I was on a National Parks bushwalk when a European woman who I don&#039;t think had been in the country long simply walked right OVER a brown snake which was curled up asleep on the path. She stopped and went OH!!! as it woke up and slithered off. (Big things, brown snakes!) The rest of us behind her stopped dead and our jaws all hit the dirt.

This was just near Mt Langi Ghiran so take care when walking there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would have done the backing off thing LM, but the dog and cat thought annoying the snake was the best thing ever and they were going to go back to it despite all entreaties. Why didn&#8217;t I just lock the both of them up? As I recall I would have had to physically catch them as they were deaf with excitement &#8211; and the snake was in kind of close proximity.</p>
<p>Another brown snake story: I was on a National Parks bushwalk when a European woman who I don&#8217;t think had been in the country long simply walked right OVER a brown snake which was curled up asleep on the path. She stopped and went OH!!! as it woke up and slithered off. (Big things, brown snakes!) The rest of us behind her stopped dead and our jaws all hit the dirt.</p>
<p>This was just near Mt Langi Ghiran so take care when walking there.</p>
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		<title>By: Pete</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pete</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Nov 2008 11:36:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another snake story. Terriers locked up in the yard for their own good all day - one still with multiple stitches after a kangaroo encounter. This evening, the wrens were going berserk - a sure sign of a snake hereabouts, better sentinels than any dog. Outside to investigate - shovel in hand. Sure enough - big brown snake, dead as a doornail. Dog bite marks on it. No marks on terriers, and three hours later, all still seem OK. Hopefully they got away with it. It will be interesting to see if they are still alive in the morning!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another snake story. Terriers locked up in the yard for their own good all day &#8211; one still with multiple stitches after a kangaroo encounter. This evening, the wrens were going berserk &#8211; a sure sign of a snake hereabouts, better sentinels than any dog. Outside to investigate &#8211; shovel in hand. Sure enough &#8211; big brown snake, dead as a doornail. Dog bite marks on it. No marks on terriers, and three hours later, all still seem OK. Hopefully they got away with it. It will be interesting to see if they are still alive in the morning!</p>
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		<title>By: Lang Mack</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lang Mack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Nov 2008 07:33:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah, Helen with the poor under fed dogs, castironbalcony, blimey you&#039;d think you would fatten &#039;em up for a photo shoot :), although my Boarder Collies looked a bit cross eyed , doggie porn?..
Just to say that if you live in town or suburb or whatever, if you have a snake drop in AND you don&#039;t sort of know what to do or have the right gear to handle the situation (not a shovel,sorry Helen not you, but some may cause more problems with hoe&#039;s and shovels than imagined), it really is best just to back off and stay away until the visitor wanders off. Don&#039;t poke or annoy the thing, or be a hero, it&#039;s only trying to make a living like the rest of us. In fact, there is a &#039;show&#039; on shortly on ABC &quot;Rodent Years&quot; , where I&#039;d give full marks for the morals of snakes,the is only a certain level one can get lower than, and snake morals have higher standards, sadly..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, Helen with the poor under fed dogs, castironbalcony, blimey you&#8217;d think you would fatten &#8216;em up for a photo shoot <img src='http://larvatusprodeo.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> , although my Boarder Collies looked a bit cross eyed , doggie porn?..<br />
Just to say that if you live in town or suburb or whatever, if you have a snake drop in AND you don&#8217;t sort of know what to do or have the right gear to handle the situation (not a shovel,sorry Helen not you, but some may cause more problems with hoe&#8217;s and shovels than imagined), it really is best just to back off and stay away until the visitor wanders off. Don&#8217;t poke or annoy the thing, or be a hero, it&#8217;s only trying to make a living like the rest of us. In fact, there is a &#8216;show&#8217; on shortly on ABC &#8220;Rodent Years&#8221; , where I&#8217;d give full marks for the morals of snakes,the is only a certain level one can get lower than, and snake morals have higher standards, sadly..</p>
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		<title>By: joe2</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Nov 2008 07:28:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As Mark says, Colin@ 26, it is not an issue of free speech but separation of church and state. It might be worthwhile though, as an avid defender of free speech, not to feel free to speak for me. I have no problems with priests speaking on political issues. It would be hard for many to fulfill their role properly without doing so.

Both Pfleger and Newman become &quot;meddlesome&quot; and cross the line when they DIRECTLY act to influence the way people vote. It is an unhealthy power trip from people who should know better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As Mark says, Colin@ 26, it is not an issue of free speech but separation of church and state. It might be worthwhile though, as an avid defender of free speech, not to feel free to speak for me. I have no problems with priests speaking on political issues. It would be hard for many to fulfill their role properly without doing so.</p>
<p>Both Pfleger and Newman become &#8220;meddlesome&#8221; and cross the line when they DIRECTLY act to influence the way people vote. It is an unhealthy power trip from people who should know better.</p>
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		<title>By: Kat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Nov 2008 04:36:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is one of the things that galls me about some religious leaders, and why I think it is better to have a personal relationship with God/Christ (as Christ himself advocated) if you are a believer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is one of the things that galls me about some religious leaders, and why I think it is better to have a personal relationship with God/Christ (as Christ himself advocated) if you are a believer.</p>
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