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		<title>By: Brian</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/11/20/stormy-weather/comment-page-1/#comment-561883</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 13:59:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The storm this arvo didn&#039;t eventuate. I think they had one further up the coast, but nothing too serious. There&#039;s another chance tomorrow night and another significant rain event from about next Wednesday.

I was talking to my sister and my nephew who lives near Marburg had 185mm on Wednesday night and knows someone who had over 300.

I&#039;ve heard one horror story about an insurance assessor. A woman living by herself and now retired had had new box guttering installed. The fool who put it up didn&#039;t get the levels right so when the gutters overflowed, as gutters always will at some time in this climate, the water washed back onto her ceiling. The insurance assessor accused her of having it done deliberately just so she could have the pleasure of water running through her ceiling and ruining all her stuff!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The storm this arvo didn&#8217;t eventuate. I think they had one further up the coast, but nothing too serious. There&#8217;s another chance tomorrow night and another significant rain event from about next Wednesday.</p>
<p>I was talking to my sister and my nephew who lives near Marburg had 185mm on Wednesday night and knows someone who had over 300.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve heard one horror story about an insurance assessor. A woman living by herself and now retired had had new box guttering installed. The fool who put it up didn&#8217;t get the levels right so when the gutters overflowed, as gutters always will at some time in this climate, the water washed back onto her ceiling. The insurance assessor accused her of having it done deliberately just so she could have the pleasure of water running through her ceiling and ruining all her stuff!</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/11/20/stormy-weather/comment-page-1/#comment-561673</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 04:48:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Hope that, though we’re busy admiring the raw natural beauty, the damage to people and property was nonetheless at a minimum.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Sadly, no, j_p_z. The local rag is reporting that the latest estimate of damage to property and infrastructure is half a billion dollars.

Looking on the bright side, I suppose rectifying all the mess might do something to stimulate the economy!

And we&#039;re looking at another thunderstorm this arvo, apparently. Even if this one isn&#039;t so violent, the obvious problem is that it further batters already shattered and damaged houses and delays cleanup/repair, and so compounds the damage. Sunday night&#039;s was exceptionally violent, but the succession of really severe storms has made things exponentially worse.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Hope that, though we’re busy admiring the raw natural beauty, the damage to people and property was nonetheless at a minimum.</p></blockquote>
<p>Sadly, no, j_p_z. The local rag is reporting that the latest estimate of damage to property and infrastructure is half a billion dollars.</p>
<p>Looking on the bright side, I suppose rectifying all the mess might do something to stimulate the economy!</p>
<p>And we&#8217;re looking at another thunderstorm this arvo, apparently. Even if this one isn&#8217;t so violent, the obvious problem is that it further batters already shattered and damaged houses and delays cleanup/repair, and so compounds the damage. Sunday night&#8217;s was exceptionally violent, but the succession of really severe storms has made things exponentially worse.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 01:46:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think we have a no pomo rule, dk.au! Klaus is right - what we were saying was the use of pomo in newspaper columns is what is objectionable! ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think we have a no pomo rule, dk.au! Klaus is right &#8211; what we were saying was the use of pomo in newspaper columns is what is objectionable! <img src='http://larvatusprodeo.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: dk.au</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/11/20/stormy-weather/comment-page-1/#comment-561556</link>
		<dc:creator>dk.au</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 01:43:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Awesome climate disaster porn links, Brian!  (cf. &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.apo.org.au/linkboard/results.chtml?filename_num=194521&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Marcia Langton&lt;/a&gt;)   Apologies if I&#039;ve violated the &#039;no pomo&#039; rule ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Awesome climate disaster porn links, Brian!  (cf. <a href="http://www.apo.org.au/linkboard/results.chtml?filename_num=194521" rel="nofollow">Marcia Langton</a>)   Apologies if I&#8217;ve violated the &#8216;no pomo&#8217; rule <img src='http://larvatusprodeo.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: danny</title>
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		<dc:creator>danny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 00:34:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris:  

Maybe you can explain what&#039;s going on down there with water. It&#039;s of interest to the nation in that your new sugarloaf pipeline for feeding Melbourne&#039;s water habit looks set to further seriously tax the Murray, even as Adelaide is weaning itself off it. 
The most up to date figures I can get for Melbourne daily average water use is 303 litres per capita. Here in South East Queensland, we responded to our water crisis by getting our usage to less than 140 l/day for over a year, less than half melbourne&#039;s usage rate, which thus looks a bit inconsiderate. Are Melburnians  twice as dirty or something? Or just possessed of an outrageous sense of entitlement and none of discipline? Like the member for Higgins. 
Maybe the generous water tank rebates the city council and state government put up here, and I gather not there, has something to do with it. 

So re: your &quot;&quot;Any hope of getting some of this down in Melbourne&quot; plea...See what happens when you do the hard yards ... we did the water savings, and Huey rewarded us with rain. Try it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris:  </p>
<p>Maybe you can explain what&#8217;s going on down there with water. It&#8217;s of interest to the nation in that your new sugarloaf pipeline for feeding Melbourne&#8217;s water habit looks set to further seriously tax the Murray, even as Adelaide is weaning itself off it.<br />
The most up to date figures I can get for Melbourne daily average water use is 303 litres per capita. Here in South East Queensland, we responded to our water crisis by getting our usage to less than 140 l/day for over a year, less than half melbourne&#8217;s usage rate, which thus looks a bit inconsiderate. Are Melburnians  twice as dirty or something? Or just possessed of an outrageous sense of entitlement and none of discipline? Like the member for Higgins.<br />
Maybe the generous water tank rebates the city council and state government put up here, and I gather not there, has something to do with it. </p>
<p>So re: your &#8220;&#8221;Any hope of getting some of this down in Melbourne&#8221; plea&#8230;See what happens when you do the hard yards &#8230; we did the water savings, and Huey rewarded us with rain. Try it.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Burns</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul Burns</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 00:04:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Best wishes for those of you affected by this awful weather in Queensland. Do hope you aren&#039;t going or are yet to go through too much trauma.
I&#039;m paranoid something similar will happen in Armidale, but so far its just howling winds.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Best wishes for those of you affected by this awful weather in Queensland. Do hope you aren&#8217;t going or are yet to go through too much trauma.<br />
I&#8217;m paranoid something similar will happen in Armidale, but so far its just howling winds.</p>
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		<title>By: Sam Clifford</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sam Clifford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 23:59:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is very similar to the 1996 storm which flooded the lower carpark of Toombul and saw Enoggera Creek spill out on to Northey St.

I had a meeting last night which finished up just as there was a complete break in the rain so I was able to ride home without too much trouble. I was worried it was going to start pissing down (or worse, hailing) so I rode like blazes.

Our place in Wooloowin hasn&#039;t been affected at all. I know someone in The Gap whose only problems were muddy paw prints all over the house, a wet towel rack (and all the towels) in the bathroom and the loss of power for 55 hours (she was one of the last 3000 or so to get power back).

Another friend&#039;s had to deal with their church getting flooded (Ferny Grove/Keperra) and is probably thanking his lucky stars he doesn&#039;t have to catch a train to uni ever again. Track closures are going to make this even harder for people out Ipswich and Ferny Grove way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is very similar to the 1996 storm which flooded the lower carpark of Toombul and saw Enoggera Creek spill out on to Northey St.</p>
<p>I had a meeting last night which finished up just as there was a complete break in the rain so I was able to ride home without too much trouble. I was worried it was going to start pissing down (or worse, hailing) so I rode like blazes.</p>
<p>Our place in Wooloowin hasn&#8217;t been affected at all. I know someone in The Gap whose only problems were muddy paw prints all over the house, a wet towel rack (and all the towels) in the bathroom and the loss of power for 55 hours (she was one of the last 3000 or so to get power back).</p>
<p>Another friend&#8217;s had to deal with their church getting flooded (Ferny Grove/Keperra) and is probably thanking his lucky stars he doesn&#8217;t have to catch a train to uni ever again. Track closures are going to make this even harder for people out Ipswich and Ferny Grove way.</p>
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		<title>By: David Rubie</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Rubie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 23:34:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not nice to see storms anywhere - reminds me a bit of the storms 7 years or so ago in Sydney that took off the roof capping of our house.  I went up the next day to put a tarp on it, had a look around and saw whole roof collapses all around us.

Mind you, the side effects of the QLD weather down in here Armidale have been fascinating.  It&#039;s humid here this week, not quite sub-tropical but definitely different from the dry heat you would expect up here.  There are little pockets of vestigial rain forest all through New England, so with this humidity I&#039;m very tempted to try a couple of tree ferns in the back yard and see how they go.

In a decade, New England could become dairy country.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not nice to see storms anywhere &#8211; reminds me a bit of the storms 7 years or so ago in Sydney that took off the roof capping of our house.  I went up the next day to put a tarp on it, had a look around and saw whole roof collapses all around us.</p>
<p>Mind you, the side effects of the QLD weather down in here Armidale have been fascinating.  It&#8217;s humid here this week, not quite sub-tropical but definitely different from the dry heat you would expect up here.  There are little pockets of vestigial rain forest all through New England, so with this humidity I&#8217;m very tempted to try a couple of tree ferns in the back yard and see how they go.</p>
<p>In a decade, New England could become dairy country.</p>
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		<title>By: danny</title>
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		<dc:creator>danny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 23:05:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steve: they&#039;ve upped the ante, RN news just reported Emerald had hail the size of .... Rockmelons!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve: they&#8217;ve upped the ante, RN news just reported Emerald had hail the size of &#8230;. Rockmelons!!</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Norton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul Norton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 22:42:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Living as I do where Highgate Hill, South Brisbane and Woolloongabba snuggle against one another, I found myself in the tragic position of being confined to the Redbrick Hotel for longer than I&#039;d intended to stay, drinking more beer than I&#039;d intended to drink, while the storm passed over.  Fortunately the grass has regrown over the bank leading down from Stephens Road to the door of my flat, meaning that I no longer find myself silted in by runoff after a seriously big downpour.  More generally, like New Farm the inner southside seems to have missed the really damaging highly localised weather events which have struck less fortunate parts of Brisbane and SEQ.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Living as I do where Highgate Hill, South Brisbane and Woolloongabba snuggle against one another, I found myself in the tragic position of being confined to the Redbrick Hotel for longer than I&#8217;d intended to stay, drinking more beer than I&#8217;d intended to drink, while the storm passed over.  Fortunately the grass has regrown over the bank leading down from Stephens Road to the door of my flat, meaning that I no longer find myself silted in by runoff after a seriously big downpour.  More generally, like New Farm the inner southside seems to have missed the really damaging highly localised weather events which have struck less fortunate parts of Brisbane and SEQ.</p>
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		<title>By: chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 22:10:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Any hope of getting some of this down in Melbourne over the next little while?

They&#039;re expecting between 20-40mm in the coming two days, but we really REALLY need some decent (not destructive though) rain after so many years of drought.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Any hope of getting some of this down in Melbourne over the next little while?</p>
<p>They&#8217;re expecting between 20-40mm in the coming two days, but we really REALLY need some decent (not destructive though) rain after so many years of drought.</p>
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		<title>By: j_p_z</title>
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		<dc:creator>j_p_z</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 22:10:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>GregM -- New Zealand is analogous to Massachusetts, except without the benefit of having MIT, Tanglewood, Amherst, or the few remaining non-insane parts of Harvard within its remit.

Canada so far as I can tell corresponds not to a specific US  state, but to the New York Times (which has really become its own sort of pan-national meta-state of Timesistan). Both Canada and the NYT have produced an extraordinary number of fine comedians, and a few of the Canadians even knew it.  :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GregM &#8212; New Zealand is analogous to Massachusetts, except without the benefit of having MIT, Tanglewood, Amherst, or the few remaining non-insane parts of Harvard within its remit.</p>
<p>Canada so far as I can tell corresponds not to a specific US  state, but to the New York Times (which has really become its own sort of pan-national meta-state of Timesistan). Both Canada and the NYT have produced an extraordinary number of fine comedians, and a few of the Canadians even knew it.  <img src='http://larvatusprodeo.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: GregM</title>
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		<dc:creator>GregM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 21:23:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;These are a similar sort of “arty” storms like the ones often seen in Texas, which further reinforces my half-baked idea that Australia is to the Commonwealth as Texas is to the US…&lt;/blockquote&gt;

What State then do you see as being to the US as Canada is to the Commonwealth?Ditto for New Zealand.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>These are a similar sort of “arty” storms like the ones often seen in Texas, which further reinforces my half-baked idea that Australia is to the Commonwealth as Texas is to the US…</p></blockquote>
<p>What State then do you see as being to the US as Canada is to the Commonwealth?Ditto for New Zealand.</p>
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		<title>By: steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 21:15:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe the hail was a bit bigger than that.

http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/news/queensland/cricket-ballsized-hail-pummels-blackwater/2008/11/20/1226770648700.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe the hail was a bit bigger than that.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/news/queensland/cricket-ballsized-hail-pummels-blackwater/2008/11/20/1226770648700.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/news/queensland/cricket-ballsized-hail-pummels-blackwater/2008/11/20/1226770648700.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 19:38:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Apparently the mining town of Blackwater west of Rockhampton copped a flogging from a wild storm with golfball sized hail last night.</description>
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		<title>By: j_p_z</title>
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		<dc:creator>j_p_z</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 18:59:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, the photos are quite incredible, thanks to Brian et al for the links.  I kept sort of half-expecting to see an alien mothership emerge from the clouds, like they do.

Hope that, though we&#039;re busy admiring the raw natural beauty, the damage to people and property was nonetheless at a minimum.

These are a similar sort of &quot;arty&quot; storms like the ones often seen in Texas, which further reinforces my half-baked idea that Australia is to the Commonwealth as Texas is to the US...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, the photos are quite incredible, thanks to Brian et al for the links.  I kept sort of half-expecting to see an alien mothership emerge from the clouds, like they do.</p>
<p>Hope that, though we&#8217;re busy admiring the raw natural beauty, the damage to people and property was nonetheless at a minimum.</p>
<p>These are a similar sort of &#8220;arty&#8221; storms like the ones often seen in Texas, which further reinforces my half-baked idea that Australia is to the Commonwealth as Texas is to the US&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: skepticlawyer</title>
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		<dc:creator>skepticlawyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 17:59:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The bloke mowing his grass with what looks like something out of &lt;i&gt;Independence Day&lt;/i&gt; behind him is amazing.</description>
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		<title>By: Roger Jones</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roger Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 16:58:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fantastic clouds. I&#039;m in Taiwan, the home of the typhoon, and Brisbane (which I flew through to get here) has the typhoons.

Am I gonna get back Sat&#039;dy morning? Or be diverted to Broome?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fantastic clouds. I&#8217;m in Taiwan, the home of the typhoon, and Brisbane (which I flew through to get here) has the typhoons.</p>
<p>Am I gonna get back Sat&#8217;dy morning? Or be diverted to Broome?</p>
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		<title>By: danny</title>
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		<dc:creator>danny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 15:59:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The flooding of the ICB tunnel was apparently caused by the simplest of engineering element failures: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/news/queensland/sensor-stuffup-floods-tunnel/2008/11/20/1226770611928.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;sensor stuff-up floods tunnel&lt;/a&gt; the BrisbaneTimes headlines it. 
&lt;blockquote&gt;a telemetric sensor system designed to detect water in the tunnel and activate a series of pumps failed, leaving the tunnel defenceless as 11 megalitres of water poured inside....Campbell Newman said &lt;strike&gt; Doh!!!&lt;/strike&gt; the ICB&#039;s sensor system early this morning indicated water removal pumps were working when they were not&lt;/blockquote&gt;
The Oz picks up the above Fairfax man-made-disaster story today, Friday, but will the more quotidien, and local-political-discourse-determining, Courier? Or Channel 2/7/9/10 News? 
The whole &lt;strike&gt;edifice of the engineered-future&lt;/strike&gt; hardhat fantasy that the ever-so-contractor-friendly Campbell and Anna are come-hell-or-high-water determined to deliver us up to is looking pretty shaky when such simple and (you-would-have-thought fail-safe) systems can&#039;t be reliably implemented by these administrations&#039; preferred tenderers. Bilge pumps aren&#039;t exactly a novel idea, or rocket science, lets hope they never have carriage of a submarine contract. 
For the emerging scandal of the Brisbane tunnel financial engineering  failure, see last night&#039;s 7.30 report.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The flooding of the ICB tunnel was apparently caused by the simplest of engineering element failures: <a href="http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/news/queensland/sensor-stuffup-floods-tunnel/2008/11/20/1226770611928.html" rel="nofollow">sensor stuff-up floods tunnel</a> the BrisbaneTimes headlines it. </p>
<blockquote><p>a telemetric sensor system designed to detect water in the tunnel and activate a series of pumps failed, leaving the tunnel defenceless as 11 megalitres of water poured inside&#8230;.Campbell Newman said <strike> Doh!!!</strike> the ICB&#8217;s sensor system early this morning indicated water removal pumps were working when they were not</p></blockquote>
<p>The Oz picks up the above Fairfax man-made-disaster story today, Friday, but will the more quotidien, and local-political-discourse-determining, Courier? Or Channel 2/7/9/10 News?<br />
The whole <strike>edifice of the engineered-future</strike> hardhat fantasy that the ever-so-contractor-friendly Campbell and Anna are come-hell-or-high-water determined to deliver us up to is looking pretty shaky when such simple and (you-would-have-thought fail-safe) systems can&#8217;t be reliably implemented by these administrations&#8217; preferred tenderers. Bilge pumps aren&#8217;t exactly a novel idea, or rocket science, lets hope they never have carriage of a submarine contract.<br />
For the emerging scandal of the Brisbane tunnel financial engineering  failure, see last night&#8217;s 7.30 report.</p>
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		<title>By: sublime cowgirl</title>
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		<dc:creator>sublime cowgirl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 15:30:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The kids and I nearly got wiped out at Roma st Parklands this evening. The youngest one listens to commercial radio (yes i know), and really wanted to see a charity concert they were doing this afternoon.  

Storm got so bad the entire cast, crew and crowd were huddled up on the stage together, in the dark while we were absolutely battered by wind and rain, then moved down backstage till it passed.

Lots of beautiful trees over, which is plenty sad :(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The kids and I nearly got wiped out at Roma st Parklands this evening. The youngest one listens to commercial radio (yes i know), and really wanted to see a charity concert they were doing this afternoon.  </p>
<p>Storm got so bad the entire cast, crew and crowd were huddled up on the stage together, in the dark while we were absolutely battered by wind and rain, then moved down backstage till it passed.</p>
<p>Lots of beautiful trees over, which is plenty sad <img src='http://larvatusprodeo.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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