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	<title>Comments on: Don&#039;t mention the Nationals (or the Liberals, or the environment)</title>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/11/21/dont-mention-the-nationals-or-the-liberals-or-the-environment/#comment-207226</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2008 13:08:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Paul, if you go to the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.lnp.org.au/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;LNP site as per your link&lt;/a&gt; they do have a button that leads you &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.lnp.org.au/policies/266.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;to their policies&lt;/a&gt; where you will read:

&lt;blockquote&gt;The objects of the Party shall be to have an Australian nation:

(q) in which there is an ongoing commitment to the protection of the environment, the prudent management of our natural resources for all Australians, and a commitment to sustainable development.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

You are also invited to click on &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.springborg.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;www.springborg.com/&lt;/a&gt; &quot;to see the policy directions being set out for the future of Queensland by your State LNP team.&quot;

There you&#039;ll find a smiling pic of The Borg. What more could you want?

It was said on the radio today that they wouldn&#039;t ask us to drink water with poo and hospital waste in it, that they wouldn&#039;t proceed with Traveston but would build another desal plant on Bribie Is. They also said they are fully ready for an election any time, so they must have policies somewhere.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paul, if you go to the <a href="http://www.lnp.org.au/" rel="nofollow">LNP site as per your link</a> they do have a button that leads you <a href="http://www.lnp.org.au/policies/266.html" rel="nofollow">to their policies</a> where you will read:</p>
<blockquote><p>The objects of the Party shall be to have an Australian nation:</p>
<p>(q) in which there is an ongoing commitment to the protection of the environment, the prudent management of our natural resources for all Australians, and a commitment to sustainable development.</p></blockquote>
<p>You are also invited to click on <a href="http://www.springborg.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.springborg.com/</a> &#8220;to see the policy directions being set out for the future of Queensland by your State LNP team.&#8221;</p>
<p>There you&#8217;ll find a smiling pic of The Borg. What more could you want?</p>
<p>It was said on the radio today that they wouldn&#8217;t ask us to drink water with poo and hospital waste in it, that they wouldn&#8217;t proceed with Traveston but would build another desal plant on Bribie Is. They also said they are fully ready for an election any time, so they must have policies somewhere.</p>
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		<title>By: Not Lee Atwater</title>
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		<dc:creator>Not Lee Atwater</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2008 02:59:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;hear the acronym “LNP” spoken by Sprongborg&quot;

A mistake or Lee Atwater style tactics of purposely stuffing up the opponents name? Nasty.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;hear the acronym “LNP” spoken by Sprongborg&#8221;</p>
<p>A mistake or Lee Atwater style tactics of purposely stuffing up the opponents name? Nasty.</p>
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		<title>By: Kat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Nov 2008 05:53:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sounds like a good reason to vote Green, if you are sick of the ALP :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sounds like a good reason to vote Green, if you are sick of the ALP <img src='http://larvatusprodeo.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 11:15:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t mention Jann Stuckey, the Liberal National Party member for Currumbin either as she would be sure to be offended.

&quot;Mr LUCAS:
 The question is who gave the story to the Gold Coast Bulletin  about event No. 1 and who took the photographs of event No. 2 and gave them to the Cairns Post? We know that the member for Currumbin is not in the shots. Did she take the photographs and did she make them available?



Mrs STUCKEY:
 I rise to a point of order. I find any reference to me offensive and I ask that it be withdrawn.



Mr SPEAKER:
 There is no point of order.&quot;

From hansard Queensland Parliament Question Time Thurs 13/11/08</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t mention Jann Stuckey, the Liberal National Party member for Currumbin either as she would be sure to be offended.</p>
<p>&#8220;Mr LUCAS:<br />
 The question is who gave the story to the Gold Coast Bulletin  about event No. 1 and who took the photographs of event No. 2 and gave them to the Cairns Post? We know that the member for Currumbin is not in the shots. Did she take the photographs and did she make them available?</p>
<p>Mrs STUCKEY:<br />
 I rise to a point of order. I find any reference to me offensive and I ask that it be withdrawn.</p>
<p>Mr SPEAKER:<br />
 There is no point of order.&#8221;</p>
<p>From hansard Queensland Parliament Question Time Thurs 13/11/08</p>
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		<title>By: Tyro Rex</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tyro Rex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 06:58:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@down and out - not if all the new roads are built as OVERPASSES and not tunnels. Over your house.

@dj - but contra my earlier comment, not if they are covered in 4ft of water. on the other hand, your local BCF might be able to supply you with a tinnie, or better, an inflatable, for all your water canallin&#039; needs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@down and out &#8211; not if all the new roads are built as OVERPASSES and not tunnels. Over your house.</p>
<p>@dj &#8211; but contra my earlier comment, not if they are covered in 4ft of water. on the other hand, your local BCF might be able to supply you with a tinnie, or better, an inflatable, for all your water canallin&#8217; needs.</p>
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		<title>By: dj</title>
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		<dc:creator>dj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 05:19:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Those new roads should make for excellent wide cycleways!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Those new roads should make for excellent wide cycleways!</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen Hill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stephen Hill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 05:13:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why would you expect the Nats to mention the environment. Isn&#039;t it beholden on Labor to remind voters how the Nat&#039;s policies on land clearing will affect the environment and global warming. Surely Labor should be able to claim they are the party of sustainable development and pick up some of the urban vote that thinks the cries of &quot;TIMBER&quot; are much more deleterious to the environment than actually doing something about personal consumption.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why would you expect the Nats to mention the environment. Isn&#8217;t it beholden on Labor to remind voters how the Nat&#8217;s policies on land clearing will affect the environment and global warming. Surely Labor should be able to claim they are the party of sustainable development and pick up some of the urban vote that thinks the cries of &#8220;TIMBER&#8221; are much more deleterious to the environment than actually doing something about personal consumption.</p>
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		<title>By: Nick Caldwell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nick Caldwell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 03:45:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Down and Out, do you mean that you think the timing of the LNP announcement is comedically poor? If so, I think I agree.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Down and Out, do you mean that you think the timing of the LNP announcement is comedically poor? If so, I think I agree.</p>
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		<title>By: Down and Out of Sài Gòn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Down and Out of Sài Gòn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 03:15:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;The other striking omission is any reference to anything to do with the environment, including policies on climate change and water security.&lt;/i&gt;

That&#039;s a troubling omission. The big issue in the LNP comment threads is &quot;Recycling = Poo in the water!&quot; I&#039;ve seen the same at the Courier Mail. So what&#039;s the Borg gonna do about it? Is there an official LNP policy of water recycling - apart from &quot;Make loud but ineffectual denunciation from the opposition benches&quot;?

&lt;i&gt;Instead, the LNP will make Queensland a place “where roads are planned for future growth” - meaning more cars and more pollution, with no thought given to how much, if any, “future growth” in Queensland is prudent, feasible or sustainable.&lt;/i&gt;

Look at the &lt;i&gt;timing&lt;/i&gt; of the announcement - just after the flooding of the ICB! That&#039;s a double whammy - it implies that new roads aren&#039;t going to help traffic, and it makes people think that there may be something to this climate change business. People know new roads aren&#039;t silver bullets for traffic problems, especially expensive tunnels underneath sea level like the Clem 7.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>The other striking omission is any reference to anything to do with the environment, including policies on climate change and water security.</i></p>
<p>That&#8217;s a troubling omission. The big issue in the LNP comment threads is &#8220;Recycling = Poo in the water!&#8221; I&#8217;ve seen the same at the Courier Mail. So what&#8217;s the Borg gonna do about it? Is there an official LNP policy of water recycling &#8211; apart from &#8220;Make loud but ineffectual denunciation from the opposition benches&#8221;?</p>
<p><i>Instead, the LNP will make Queensland a place “where roads are planned for future growth” &#8211; meaning more cars and more pollution, with no thought given to how much, if any, “future growth” in Queensland is prudent, feasible or sustainable.</i></p>
<p>Look at the <i>timing</i> of the announcement &#8211; just after the flooding of the ICB! That&#8217;s a double whammy &#8211; it implies that new roads aren&#8217;t going to help traffic, and it makes people think that there may be something to this climate change business. People know new roads aren&#8217;t silver bullets for traffic problems, especially expensive tunnels underneath sea level like the Clem 7.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Davis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Davis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 00:05:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You mean there is an environment here in Queensland?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You mean there is an environment here in Queensland?</p>
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