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	<title>Comments on: Open Rudd government first anniversary thread</title>
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	<description>Life, Culture and Politics from BrisVegas</description>
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		<title>By: smiley</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/11/23/open-rudd-government-first-anniversary-thread/#comment-207462</link>
		<dc:creator>smiley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2008 23:10:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pavlov&#039;s Cat

&lt;i&gt;Except that, pace Timothy Watson, I’d like to see a little more ideology&lt;/i&gt;


Not a bad idea. But what ideology are you suggesting?</description>
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<p><i>Except that, pace Timothy Watson, I’d like to see a little more ideology</i></p>
<p>Not a bad idea. But what ideology are you suggesting?</p>
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		<title>By: David Rubie</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Rubie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2008 05:35:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;And it makes you grunt.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Y&#039;know, there&#039;s some things I reckon are better left unknown until the last possible minute Paul.  That&#039;s one of them :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>And it makes you grunt.</p></blockquote>
<p>Y&#8217;know, there&#8217;s some things I reckon are better left unknown until the last possible minute Paul.  That&#8217;s one of them <img src='http://larvatusprodeo.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Paul Burns</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul Burns</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2008 05:31:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DR,
They use a gloved hand, index finger and lots of lube. And it makes you grunt.  :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DR,<br />
They use a gloved hand, index finger and lots of lube. And it makes you grunt.  <img src='http://larvatusprodeo.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: David Rubie</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/11/23/open-rudd-government-first-anniversary-thread/#comment-207459</link>
		<dc:creator>David Rubie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2008 05:23:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ambigulous wrote:
&lt;blockquote&gt;David Rubie: if Prius is Latin, perhaps the plural is ‘Prii’? But I suspect it’s not Latin.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Despite being a worthy vehicle, it still sounds like something uncomfortable a doctor uses on your prostate.

Jacques de Molay, there is a clear path toward ridding us of the filter whether that luddite Conroy succeeds or not:  civil disobedience.  It&#039;ll be trivially easy to circumvent the filter when it arrives, and although it&#039;ll slow down internet access for a while, our technologically challenged overlords will quickly see the error of their ways.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ambigulous wrote:</p>
<blockquote><p>David Rubie: if Prius is Latin, perhaps the plural is ‘Prii’? But I suspect it’s not Latin.</p></blockquote>
<p>Despite being a worthy vehicle, it still sounds like something uncomfortable a doctor uses on your prostate.</p>
<p>Jacques de Molay, there is a clear path toward ridding us of the filter whether that luddite Conroy succeeds or not:  civil disobedience.  It&#8217;ll be trivially easy to circumvent the filter when it arrives, and although it&#8217;ll slow down internet access for a while, our technologically challenged overlords will quickly see the error of their ways.</p>
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		<title>By: Jacques de Molay</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/11/23/open-rudd-government-first-anniversary-thread/#comment-207458</link>
		<dc:creator>Jacques de Molay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2008 04:48:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>derrida derider @ 38,

The internet filter is coming in. Fielding and Xenophon are all for it and you&#039;d think a lot of the Libs would be too. No chance whatsoever it doesn&#039;t go through.

All I know if it does come in the ALP have lost my vote at the next election.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>derrida derider @ 38,</p>
<p>The internet filter is coming in. Fielding and Xenophon are all for it and you&#8217;d think a lot of the Libs would be too. No chance whatsoever it doesn&#8217;t go through.</p>
<p>All I know if it does come in the ALP have lost my vote at the next election.</p>
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		<title>By: Ambigulous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ambigulous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2008 04:14:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Robert M confessed: &quot;beneath this inner suburbanite exterior lies the heart of a kid who grew up riding trailbikes and sliding utes through muddy paddocks.&quot;

Good to hear it! One day you&#039;ll have extra value, as one of the people who can still remember muddy paddocks ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Robert M confessed: &#8220;beneath this inner suburbanite exterior lies the heart of a kid who grew up riding trailbikes and sliding utes through muddy paddocks.&#8221;</p>
<p>Good to hear it! One day you&#8217;ll have extra value, as one of the people who can still remember muddy paddocks <img src='http://larvatusprodeo.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Ambigulous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ambigulous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2008 02:33:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>jo: nicely put.

David Rubie: if Prius is Latin, perhaps the plural is &#039;Prii&#039;? But I suspect it&#039;s not Latin.

Interesting that several ex-Ministers on &quot;Howard Years&quot; pointed to the sheer pragmatism of early 2001, as John Howard became deperate to halt the Govt slide in polls. Sheer pragmatism: is that part of what finished up making them look shonky, lazy and shrill?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>jo: nicely put.</p>
<p>David Rubie: if Prius is Latin, perhaps the plural is &#8216;Prii&#8217;? But I suspect it&#8217;s not Latin.</p>
<p>Interesting that several ex-Ministers on &#8220;Howard Years&#8221; pointed to the sheer pragmatism of early 2001, as John Howard became deperate to halt the Govt slide in polls. Sheer pragmatism: is that part of what finished up making them look shonky, lazy and shrill?</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2008 01:51:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;Update&lt;/b&gt;: &lt;a href=&quot;http://andrewbartlett.com/?p=7157&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Andrew Bartlett&lt;/a&gt; notes the anniversary and the fact that it happily coincides with the long over due removal of statutory discrimination against same sex couples.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Update</b>: <a href="http://andrewbartlett.com/?p=7157" rel="nofollow">Andrew Bartlett</a> notes the anniversary and the fact that it happily coincides with the long over due removal of statutory discrimination against same sex couples.</p>
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		<title>By: derrida derider</title>
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		<dc:creator>derrida derider</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2008 01:22:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I reckon the internet censoring stuff is pure politics, not policy - remember where the balance of power is in the Senate.  Conroy is probably hoping that the thing indeed turns out to be technically infeasible, cos then he can turn to Fielding and say &quot;well we tried ...&quot;.

And, yes, Rudd should delegate more.  But his personality means he won&#039;t.

Swan was a dope in opposition and is proving no better in goverment (building expectations about pension increases you can&#039;t immediately meet and making a deficit in a recession look like something undesirable were both first class own goals).  Neither the government or the country can afford him in present circumstances, so Rudd should be looking for a way to put Tanner or Gillard in his place.

As for the business welfare, it really sucks - the car package is the worst so far but its far from an isolated case.  But unfortunately it&#039;s to be expected because of the way Labor owes some of the unions big time (we&#039;re replacing crony capitalists with crony unionists).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I reckon the internet censoring stuff is pure politics, not policy &#8211; remember where the balance of power is in the Senate.  Conroy is probably hoping that the thing indeed turns out to be technically infeasible, cos then he can turn to Fielding and say &#8220;well we tried &#8230;&#8221;.</p>
<p>And, yes, Rudd should delegate more.  But his personality means he won&#8217;t.</p>
<p>Swan was a dope in opposition and is proving no better in goverment (building expectations about pension increases you can&#8217;t immediately meet and making a deficit in a recession look like something undesirable were both first class own goals).  Neither the government or the country can afford him in present circumstances, so Rudd should be looking for a way to put Tanner or Gillard in his place.</p>
<p>As for the business welfare, it really sucks &#8211; the car package is the worst so far but its far from an isolated case.  But unfortunately it&#8217;s to be expected because of the way Labor owes some of the unions big time (we&#8217;re replacing crony capitalists with crony unionists).</p>
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		<title>By: wbb</title>
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		<dc:creator>wbb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Nov 2008 15:01:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Team Rudd, Tanner, Gillard, Swann, Macklin doing fine. I remain impressed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Team Rudd, Tanner, Gillard, Swann, Macklin doing fine. I remain impressed.</p>
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