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	<title>Comments on: Reflections on CPD&#8217;s Common Ground forum on Climate Change</title>
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		<title>By: Kimo Goree</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kimo Goree</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Nov 2008 21:50:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Our daily coverage from Poznan, in English, French, Spanish and Japanese (including high res photos) will be located at &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.iisd.ca/climate/cop14/m&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;IISD Reporting Services from Poznan&lt;/a&gt; 

We&#039;ll be providing reports from the negotiations and daily summaries from key side events.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Our daily coverage from Poznan, in English, French, Spanish and Japanese (including high res photos) will be located at <a href="http://www.iisd.ca/climate/cop14/m" rel="nofollow">IISD Reporting Services from Poznan</a> </p>
<p>We&#8217;ll be providing reports from the negotiations and daily summaries from key side events.</p>
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		<title>By: dk.au</title>
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		<dc:creator>dk.au</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Nov 2008 10:52:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Georgie.
And Robert - I&#039;ll be keeping an eye on the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.iisd.org/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Earth Negotiations Bulletin&lt;/a&gt; </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Georgie.<br />
And Robert &#8211; I&#8217;ll be keeping an eye on the <a href="http://www.iisd.org/" rel="nofollow">Earth Negotiations Bulletin</a></p>
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		<title>By: Georgie CPD</title>
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		<dc:creator>Georgie CPD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Nov 2008 05:54:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>or even: http://uk.youtube.com/user/PolicyDevelopment</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>or even: <a href="http://uk.youtube.com/user/PolicyDevelopment" rel="nofollow">http://uk.youtube.com/user/PolicyDevelopment</a></p>
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		<title>By: Georgie CPD</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/11/26/reflections-on-cpds-common-ground-forum-on-climate-change/comment-page-1/#comment-567076</link>
		<dc:creator>Georgie CPD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Nov 2008 05:52:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s some more videos of the night&#039;s discussions: &lt;a&gt;Common Ground on climate change&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s some more videos of the night&#8217;s discussions: <a>Common Ground on climate change</a></p>
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		<title>By: Robert Merkel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Merkel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Nov 2008 04:02:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks dk, that is a very interesting link!

Apparently the next round of negotiations is about to begin in Poland soon, so it will be interesting to see if there&#039;s any progress.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks dk, that is a very interesting link!</p>
<p>Apparently the next round of negotiations is about to begin in Poland soon, so it will be interesting to see if there&#8217;s any progress.</p>
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		<title>By: Lloyd</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lloyd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Nov 2008 02:32:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Devine and Akerman obviously went to the same Qadrant dinner and had to share their reverlations.  &quot;Climates have always changed and always will&quot; apparently.  

Gobsmacking that the SMH insults the intelligence of it&#039;s readers in this way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Devine and Akerman obviously went to the same Qadrant dinner and had to share their reverlations.  &#8220;Climates have always changed and always will&#8221; apparently.  </p>
<p>Gobsmacking that the SMH insults the intelligence of it&#8217;s readers in this way.</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick B</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patrick B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Nov 2008 01:50:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I haven&#039;t actually read M. Devine&#039;s column today but judging by the headline I trust she was not on the panel.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I haven&#8217;t actually read M. Devine&#8217;s column today but judging by the headline I trust she was not on the panel.</p>
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		<title>By: dk.au</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/11/26/reflections-on-cpds-common-ground-forum-on-climate-change/comment-page-1/#comment-566690</link>
		<dc:creator>dk.au</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Nov 2008 01:06:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Lord Stern: I’ve worked in China and India for many years, and in the past few months I traveled to India, China and Brazil. There is a real deepening of engagement on the issue that is remarkable. Yet at the same time there is a real and tangible anger at industrialized countries, which contributed the most to the problem over the past 100 years as they grew rich on a carbon-heavy economy.
For developing countries, it’s really important that any climate deal be equitable. I think the framework for the Copenhagen negotiations [in 2009] is simple: if rich countries commit to at least 80% cuts in emissions by 2050 from 1990 levels, then developing countries will be willing to sign on to their own emissions reductions starting perhaps in 2020.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

http://blogs.wsj.com/environmentalcapital/2008/11/26/stern-truths-climate-guru-still-hopeful-ahead-of-polish-summit/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Lord Stern: I’ve worked in China and India for many years, and in the past few months I traveled to India, China and Brazil. There is a real deepening of engagement on the issue that is remarkable. Yet at the same time there is a real and tangible anger at industrialized countries, which contributed the most to the problem over the past 100 years as they grew rich on a carbon-heavy economy.<br />
For developing countries, it’s really important that any climate deal be equitable. I think the framework for the Copenhagen negotiations [in 2009] is simple: if rich countries commit to at least 80% cuts in emissions by 2050 from 1990 levels, then developing countries will be willing to sign on to their own emissions reductions starting perhaps in 2020.</p></blockquote>
<p><a href="http://blogs.wsj.com/environmentalcapital/2008/11/26/stern-truths-climate-guru-still-hopeful-ahead-of-polish-summit/" rel="nofollow">http://blogs.wsj.com/environmentalcapital/2008/11/26/stern-truths-climate-guru-still-hopeful-ahead-of-polish-summit/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Nov 2008 00:54:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Video of Miriam Lyons at the event here:

http://investigativeblog.net/?p=417</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Video of Miriam Lyons at the event here:</p>
<p><a href="http://investigativeblog.net/?p=417" rel="nofollow">http://investigativeblog.net/?p=417</a></p>
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		<title>By: Robert Merkel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Merkel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Nov 2008 00:16:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Bob Carr’s masterful oratory skills are always a pleasure to witness. The one thing that riles him up more than ‘voodoo climate science denial’, he said, was the vaguely racist ‘but India and China’ meme. We should show, he argued, a rich country can transition to a low carbon economy.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Sure, we should, but if China, India, Brazil and Russia do nothing while we (and the rest of the world) transition to a low carbon economy we&#039;re still up the creek.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Bob Carr’s masterful oratory skills are always a pleasure to witness. The one thing that riles him up more than ‘voodoo climate science denial’, he said, was the vaguely racist ‘but India and China’ meme. We should show, he argued, a rich country can transition to a low carbon economy.</p></blockquote>
<p>Sure, we should, but if China, India, Brazil and Russia do nothing while we (and the rest of the world) transition to a low carbon economy we&#8217;re still up the creek.</p>
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