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		<title>By: onimod</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/12/01/live-by-the-sword/#comment-183937</link>
		<dc:creator>onimod</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 10:30:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tariq +1</description>
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		<title>By: Paul Burns</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/12/01/live-by-the-sword/#comment-183936</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Burns</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 04:41:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Acording to Julie Bishop, the cat&#039;s claw is, quote: &quot;Just a little thing I do.&quot;
Well, I&#039;m glad that&#039;s cleared up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Acording to Julie Bishop, the cat&#8217;s claw is, quote: &#8220;Just a little thing I do.&#8221;<br />
Well, I&#8217;m glad that&#8217;s cleared up.</p>
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		<title>By: Helen</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/12/01/live-by-the-sword/#comment-183935</link>
		<dc:creator>Helen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 22:56:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m with you Tariq. We need proper debate and vision, not point scoring. Add to that the fact that in the adversarial climate we have, any change of direction or abandonment of an ill-thought-out policy is gleefully referred to as a &quot;backdown&quot; by both media and the other side. With the implication that it is a Bad Thing.

This is bad, because a lot of policy statements are made which subsequent events show are poorly thought through (Rudd&#039;s never ever deficit, for instance? The Victorian desalination plant?) Rather than recognising that sometimes one has to rethink ones&#039; positon, changes are always referred to as backflips or backdowns and so to change ones policy has come to be seen as undignified. This can only further ossify government and society.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m with you Tariq. We need proper debate and vision, not point scoring. Add to that the fact that in the adversarial climate we have, any change of direction or abandonment of an ill-thought-out policy is gleefully referred to as a &#8220;backdown&#8221; by both media and the other side. With the implication that it is a Bad Thing.</p>
<p>This is bad, because a lot of policy statements are made which subsequent events show are poorly thought through (Rudd&#8217;s never ever deficit, for instance? The Victorian desalination plant?) Rather than recognising that sometimes one has to rethink ones&#8217; positon, changes are always referred to as backflips or backdowns and so to change ones policy has come to be seen as undignified. This can only further ossify government and society.</p>
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		<title>By: Tariq</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/12/01/live-by-the-sword/#comment-183934</link>
		<dc:creator>Tariq</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 17:06:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It’s interesting to note the undue pre-occupation with measuring the effectiveness of a shadow minister by their ability to “score points” against their counterpart. This seems fine if in the process of doing so, a shadow minister proffers something by way of intellectual or policy merit to an issue.

Consider for example, Keating’s vicarious agitations for Howard and Costello’s tax cuts to be re-directed to superannuation. Evidently, he was right. Australia’s super funds, of which Andrew Robb on the Insiders program (30th Nov 2008) so fondly spoke of as a source of economic liberation, with some regulatory tweaking, was a far-sighted piece of public policy and an economic mitigation scheme du jours.

The problem is however, that both the Government and opposition have drifted into what may best be described as “howzat! I caught you out, Howzat!” mentality, to borrow an old 70’s pop lyric-come de facto sporting creed.

Where are the creative thinkers? And moreover, where is the policy engagement by politicians? The extraordinary world events of late; the chaos and mass hysteria, require talented, visionary and most importantly, forward-thinking people. Against the backdrop of a world in disarray, people look to our leaders to replace order and structure back to their lives. Alas, a cursory scan of the faces of the opposition benches reveals a line-up of blasé, apathetic and horrendously jovial faces. On the other hand, look at Minister Penny Wong speak about a water issue, or the uneasy countenance of Wayne Swan as he makes a commentary on an economic event. Their faces appear sombre, their hearts heavy, their brows furrowed, reflecting the seriousness of their respective portfolio areas, and yet they offer poise and the re-assurance of the most elemental grasp of their brief. They engender a feeling that “Hey, I’m on top of it”, or “I’ve been working on this all night..”. No clever jibes, or thin-veneer of humour to divert lack of ability, just plain no-nonsense deliveries.

Incidentally, the so-called gaffes and slip-ups which the Liberals are peddling, show me essentially that these people are human. Howard did it when he couldn’t recall the name of a Tasmanian liberal colleague. Rudd allegedly did it in sniping at Bush, and Bishop really did it when she couldn’t recall the official interest rate of the period. There are, after all faux pas, minor errors, or outright blunders.

When either Keating or Costello (excuse me mentioning the latter in the same sentence), attacked someone, there was an underlying respect or dare I say it quite perversely, a certain affection for their unfortunate target.

With minor exceptions, the opposition ranks, are bereft of anyone remotely formidable in their area. Dr Nelson, a bright star on the team was given a celebrity makeover with a done-over variation. Equally, Kim Beazley, an intellectual giant given a Work-Choices-esque voluntary redundancy, and who could forget Peter “the amputated spirit” Costello?

The Bishop agitations have highlighted more than anything else I think, the over-abundance of unintelligent, slow to comprehend, rapid-fire drivel front-benchers of the opposition. The liberals are caught in a rip, a vortex shedding gravitational drag pool of talent. She occupies a position, whose occupants were a colossus, and despite a palpable erudition, it is difficult to see and any economic policy coming from her.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It’s interesting to note the undue pre-occupation with measuring the effectiveness of a shadow minister by their ability to “score points” against their counterpart. This seems fine if in the process of doing so, a shadow minister proffers something by way of intellectual or policy merit to an issue.</p>
<p>Consider for example, Keating’s vicarious agitations for Howard and Costello’s tax cuts to be re-directed to superannuation. Evidently, he was right. Australia’s super funds, of which Andrew Robb on the Insiders program (30th Nov 2008) so fondly spoke of as a source of economic liberation, with some regulatory tweaking, was a far-sighted piece of public policy and an economic mitigation scheme du jours.</p>
<p>The problem is however, that both the Government and opposition have drifted into what may best be described as “howzat! I caught you out, Howzat!” mentality, to borrow an old 70’s pop lyric-come de facto sporting creed.</p>
<p>Where are the creative thinkers? And moreover, where is the policy engagement by politicians? The extraordinary world events of late; the chaos and mass hysteria, require talented, visionary and most importantly, forward-thinking people. Against the backdrop of a world in disarray, people look to our leaders to replace order and structure back to their lives. Alas, a cursory scan of the faces of the opposition benches reveals a line-up of blasé, apathetic and horrendously jovial faces. On the other hand, look at Minister Penny Wong speak about a water issue, or the uneasy countenance of Wayne Swan as he makes a commentary on an economic event. Their faces appear sombre, their hearts heavy, their brows furrowed, reflecting the seriousness of their respective portfolio areas, and yet they offer poise and the re-assurance of the most elemental grasp of their brief. They engender a feeling that “Hey, I’m on top of it”, or “I’ve been working on this all night..”. No clever jibes, or thin-veneer of humour to divert lack of ability, just plain no-nonsense deliveries.</p>
<p>Incidentally, the so-called gaffes and slip-ups which the Liberals are peddling, show me essentially that these people are human. Howard did it when he couldn’t recall the name of a Tasmanian liberal colleague. Rudd allegedly did it in sniping at Bush, and Bishop really did it when she couldn’t recall the official interest rate of the period. There are, after all faux pas, minor errors, or outright blunders.</p>
<p>When either Keating or Costello (excuse me mentioning the latter in the same sentence), attacked someone, there was an underlying respect or dare I say it quite perversely, a certain affection for their unfortunate target.</p>
<p>With minor exceptions, the opposition ranks, are bereft of anyone remotely formidable in their area. Dr Nelson, a bright star on the team was given a celebrity makeover with a done-over variation. Equally, Kim Beazley, an intellectual giant given a Work-Choices-esque voluntary redundancy, and who could forget Peter “the amputated spirit” Costello?</p>
<p>The Bishop agitations have highlighted more than anything else I think, the over-abundance of unintelligent, slow to comprehend, rapid-fire drivel front-benchers of the opposition. The liberals are caught in a rip, a vortex shedding gravitational drag pool of talent. She occupies a position, whose occupants were a colossus, and despite a palpable erudition, it is difficult to see and any economic policy coming from her.</p>
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		<title>By: David Rubie</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Rubie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 05:07:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Boy are there some peurile minds working down at News Corp:

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,24897,24739735-601,00.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Turnbull seeks to end Bishop bashing&lt;/a&gt;

I LOL but probably shouldn&#039;t.  I suppose it&#039;s better than &quot;Turnbull seeks to end Monkey Spanking&quot; but not much.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Boy are there some peurile minds working down at News Corp:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,24897,24739735-601,00.html" rel="nofollow">Turnbull seeks to end Bishop bashing</a></p>
<p>I LOL but probably shouldn&#8217;t.  I suppose it&#8217;s better than &#8220;Turnbull seeks to end Monkey Spanking&#8221; but not much.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Burns</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/12/01/live-by-the-sword/#comment-183932</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Burns</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 04:48:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brian, its the Liberal Party. Of course it&#039;ll be Andrew Robb. creepy is a good way to describe him. A real Howard nasty, that one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brian, its the Liberal Party. Of course it&#8217;ll be Andrew Robb. creepy is a good way to describe him. A real Howard nasty, that one.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/12/01/live-by-the-sword/#comment-183931</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 03:00:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michelle Grattan explained the other day that as Deputy Bishop has her choice of portfolios. Lord help us (and them) if the creepy Andrew Robb succeeds in replacing her. The alternative would surely need to be someone like Joe Hockey.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michelle Grattan explained the other day that as Deputy Bishop has her choice of portfolios. Lord help us (and them) if the creepy Andrew Robb succeeds in replacing her. The alternative would surely need to be someone like Joe Hockey.</p>
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		<title>By: David Irving (no relation)</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/12/01/live-by-the-sword/#comment-183930</link>
		<dc:creator>David Irving (no relation)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 02:12:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, BH - that explains why Gillard basically told Fran Kelly to piss off (in the nicest possible way). I&#039;d heard her playful tone, but not the actual words.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, BH &#8211; that explains why Gillard basically told Fran Kelly to piss off (in the nicest possible way). I&#8217;d heard her playful tone, but not the actual words.</p>
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		<title>By: kymbos</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/12/01/live-by-the-sword/#comment-183929</link>
		<dc:creator>kymbos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 01:08:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Meanwhile, didn&#039;t Bishop say the editor of the Australian had a close relationship with the ALP?!?  That&#039;s right, the left-wing bias of the Australian is becoming very hard to bear...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Meanwhile, didn&#8217;t Bishop say the editor of the Australian had a close relationship with the ALP?!?  That&#8217;s right, the left-wing bias of the Australian is becoming very hard to bear&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: kymbos</title>
		<link>http://larvatusprodeo.net/2008/12/01/live-by-the-sword/#comment-183928</link>
		<dc:creator>kymbos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 01:06:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the reason poor old Swannie is kicked around is because Costello and Keating were such accomplished performers in the role (especially in Question Time), and were fun to listen to.  Swan, like Rudd, is really difficult to sit through.  I&#039;m sure he&#039;s doing a good job, but I just don&#039;t want to hear him doing it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the reason poor old Swannie is kicked around is because Costello and Keating were such accomplished performers in the role (especially in Question Time), and were fun to listen to.  Swan, like Rudd, is really difficult to sit through.  I&#8217;m sure he&#8217;s doing a good job, but I just don&#8217;t want to hear him doing it.</p>
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